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Subject: Re: [Fot] TR3 frame color question
From: Dave Hogye via Fot <fot@autox.team.net>
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 2021 10:39:27 -0800
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I=E2=80=99ve seen a couple cars with primrose yellow frames. I recall one ha=
d a red body.=20
Dave H.=20

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 26, 2021, at 10:14 AM, T. R. Householder via Fot <fot@autox.team.ne=
t> wrote:
>=20
> When we were setting up originality guidelines for TRA there was input of r=
andom differences in frame color. some were positive finds. I personally too=
k it as what ever was in the paint gun at the time the frame was posted for p=
aint went on it . predominately they were Black=20
>=20
> Tom
>=20
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> -----------------------------------------
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> From: "Tony Sheach via Fot"=20
> To: "Henry A. Morrison"
> Cc: "FOT Triumph"
> Sent: Tuesday January 26 2021 12:51:10PM
> Subject: Re: [Fot] TR3 frame color question
>=20
> Hi all
>=20
> Motor show cars sometimes had white chassis - I cam across this she lookin=
g at the records at BMIHR Gaydon when I started building the 1958 Earls Cour=
t demonstrator (3a) registered 2SMC.
>=20
> Cars had three =E2=80=98standards=E2=80=99 of prep it seems and the record=
s show =E2=80=98A/A=E2=80=99, =E2=80=98A/B=E2=80=99, =E2=80=98A/C=E2=80=99 e=
tc but no one seems to know what that really meant. I surmised that it might=
 be rolling chassis, display car and demonstrator car for test use just by l=
ooking at the 57 and 58 records and the cars pictured and my car, which had n=
ice chrome bits everywhere but was also clearly nicely prepped at one time. O=
ther at Earls Court that year were two shiny white 3a=E2=80=99s and a white r=
olling chassis. The red Glasgow and Geneva car Registered 3SMC looks to have=
 a white chassis from the period B&W pics. Could be all wrong of course.
>=20
> The other white chassis cars were from the competitions department who ten=
ded to paint some Chassis white (not all by any means) so that cracks could b=
e seen easily. This flowed into the TR4 programme, where each of the four ca=
rs alway ran on white chassis frames and still do today.
>=20
> Hope this is useful
> Tony=20
>=20
>=20
>=20
> Sent from my iPad
>=20
> On 26 Jan 2021, at 17:10, Henry A. Morrison via Fot <fot@autox.team.net> w=
rote:
>=20
> =EF=BB=BF
> My red 1960 has a white frame...............I think my '57 white car is wh=
ite as well..............
>=20
> Henry Morrison
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> Sent from Outlook
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> Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2021 10:04 AM
> To: Steven Belfer <steve@artwithcars.com>
> Cc: FOT Triumph <fot@autox.team.net>
> Subject: Re: [Fot] TR3 frame color question
> =20
> Essentially, that seems to be true.
>=20
> But I suspect white slipped through once in awhile because of display chas=
sis, etc.
>=20
> I encountered it when I was involved in a concours.
>=20
> Joe Alexander
> 4505 Donald Dr
> Cedar Falls, IA 50613
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> > On Jan 26, 2021, at 10:55 AM, Steven Belfer via Fot <fot@autox.team.net>=
 wrote:
> >
> > =EF=BB=BFI need help setting an online debate on Facebook. Did TR3 frame=
s ever come from the factory in colors other than black?   I say black only.=

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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3D=
utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto">I=E2=80=99ve seen a couple cars with primro=
se yellow frames. I recall one had a red body.&nbsp;<div>Dave H.&nbsp;<br><b=
r><div id=3D"AppleMailSignature" dir=3D"ltr">Sent from my iPhone</div><div d=
ir=3D"ltr"><br>On Jan 26, 2021, at 10:14 AM, T. R. Householder via Fot &lt;<=
a href=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net";>fot@autox.team.net</a>&gt; wrote:<br><b=
r></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div dir=3D"ltr">When we were setting up o=
riginality guidelines for TRA there was input of random differences in frame=
 color. some were positive finds. I personally took it as what ever was in t=
he paint gun at the time the frame was posted for paint went on it . predomi=
nately they were Black&nbsp;<div><br></div><div>Tom</div><div><br></div><div=
><br><br><div class=3D"reply-new-signature"></div><p>-----------------------=
------------------</p>From: "Tony Sheach via Fot" <fot@autox.team.net><br>To=
: "Henry A. Morrison"<br>Cc: "FOT Triumph"<br>Sent: Tuesday January 26 2021 1=
2:51:10PM<br>Subject: Re: [Fot] TR3 frame color question<br><br>
Hi all
<div><br></div>
<div>Motor show cars sometimes had white chassis - I cam across
this she looking at the records at BMIHR Gaydon when I started
building the 1958 Earls Court demonstrator (3a) registered
2SMC.</div>
<div><br></div>
<div>Cars had three =E2=80=98standards=E2=80=99 of prep it seems and the rec=
ords
show =E2=80=98A/A=E2=80=99, =E2=80=98A/B=E2=80=99, =E2=80=98A/C=E2=80=99 etc=
 but no one seems to know what that
really meant. I surmised that it might be rolling chassis, display
car and demonstrator car for test use just by looking at the 57 and
58 records and the cars pictured and my car, which had nice chrome
bits everywhere but was also clearly nicely prepped at one time.
Other at Earls Court that year were two shiny white 3a=E2=80=99s and a
white rolling chassis. The red Glasgow and Geneva car Registered
3SMC looks to have a white chassis from the period B&amp;W pics.
Could be all wrong of course.</div>
<div><br></div>
<div>The other white chassis cars were from the competitions
department who tended to paint some Chassis white (not all by any
means) so that cracks could be seen easily. This flowed into the
TR4 programme, where each of the four cars alway ran on white
chassis frames and still do today.</div>
<div><br></div>
<div>Hope this is useful</div>
<div>Tony&nbsp;</div>
<div><br></div>
<div><br><br><div dir=3D"ltr">Sent from my iPad</div>
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On 26 Jan 2021, at 17:10, Henry A. Morrison via Fot
&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net";>fot@autox.team.net</a>&gt; wrote:<=
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<div style=3D"font-family:Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:12pt;colo=
r:rgb(0,0,0);">
My red 1960 has a white frame...............I think my '57 white
car is white as well..............</div>
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r:rgb(0,0,0);">
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r:rgb(0,0,0);">
Henry Morrison</div>
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<div class=3D"PlainText"><font size=3D"2"><span style=3D"font-size:11pt;">Es=
sentially, that seems to be true.<br><br>
But I suspect white slipped through once in awhile because of
display chassis, etc.<br><br>
I encountered it when I was involved in a concours.<br><br>
Joe Alexander<br>
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&gt; On Jan 26, 2021, at 10:55 AM, Steven Belfer via Fot
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&gt; =EF=BB=BFI need help setting an online debate on Facebook. Did TR3
frames ever come from the factory in colors other than
black?&nbsp;&nbsp; I say black only.<br>
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