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Re: [Fot] To thermostat or not to thermostat...

To: "'Dave Riddle'" <Dave@microworks.net>, <tr4racing@googlemail.com>, "'Philip Gott'" <vfracing@aol.com>
Subject: Re: [Fot] To thermostat or not to thermostat...
From: Chris Marx via Fot <fot@autox.team.net>
Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2022 21:25:10 +0200
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Somehow your radiator system is inefficient.

My TR4 temperature is nailed to 185F and don=E2=80=99t move away =
from=E2=80=A6range maybe from 180 to 190.

I use:

*       Good aluminum radiator
*       Blocked small circuit
*       Automatic bleeding system
*       7 blade pump
*       Smaller drive pulley to lower water pump speed=20

=20

Von: Dave Riddle <Dave@microworks.net>=20
Gesendet: Freitag, 10. Juni 2022 21:18
An: tr4racing@googlemail.com; 'Philip Gott' <vfracing@aol.com>
Cc: fot@autox.team.net
Betreff: RE: [Fot] To thermostat or not to thermostat...

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Brand new Aluminum Radiator from Wizard and all new hoses=20

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[mailto:tr4racing@googlemail.com]=20
Sent: Friday, June 10, 2022 12:17 PM
To: 'Philip Gott'; Dave Riddle
Subject: AW: [Fot] To thermostat or not to thermostat...

=20

Yeah, that was my thought.

=20

Besides that, I use a thermostat in my TR4.

=20

Cheers

Chris

=20

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> Im Auftrag von Philip Gott via Fot
Gesendet: Freitag, 10. Juni 2022 21:07
Betreff: Re: [Fot] To thermostat or not to thermostat...

=20

Time to get the radiator flushed.

Sent from my iPhone

=20

On Jun 10, 2022, at 2:25 PM, Dave Riddle via Fot <fot@autox.team.net =

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I have the thermostat housing open right now and have obtained a new 180 =
degree thermostat to replace the 180 degree Motorad one that has been in =
there since the 1990s.  The old one I put in a pot and saw it open when =
I heated the water but It is still suspect.  Here in the Phoenix area it =
is the rare day that we really need to be concerned with ambient temps =
leading to prolonged engine warm up conditions. Lately I had noticed =
that when running for prolonged times at Freeway speeds (+75 at 3500 =
RPM) the temps would quickly reach +230 and if I jumped off the Freeway =
and moved at surface Street speeds of 45 even with Stop and Go =
streetlights within a mile or two the temps had dropped back to between =
210 and 220.

=20

Should I look at using a 160 degree thermostat or just ditching one =
altogether?

=20

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Dave Riddle

Business IT Consulting

Office: 480-610-8234


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vlink=3Dpurple style=3D'word-wrap:break-word'><div =
class=3DWordSection1><p class=3DMsoNormal>Somehow your radiator system =
is inefficient.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>My TR4 temperature is =
nailed to 185F and don=E2=80=99t move away from=E2=80=A6range maybe from =
180 to 190.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>I use:<o:p></o:p></p><ul =
style=3D'margin-top:0cm' type=3Ddisc><li class=3DMsoListParagraph =
style=3D'margin-left:0cm;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'>Good aluminum =
radiator<o:p></o:p></li><li class=3DMsoListParagraph =
style=3D'margin-left:0cm;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'>Blocked small =
circuit<o:p></o:p></li><li class=3DMsoListParagraph =
style=3D'margin-left:0cm;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'>Automatic bleeding =
system<o:p></o:p></li><li class=3DMsoListParagraph =
style=3D'margin-left:0cm;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'>7 blade =
pump<o:p></o:p></li><li class=3DMsoListParagraph =
style=3D'margin-left:0cm;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'>Smaller drive pulley =
to lower water pump speed <o:p></o:p></li></ul><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><div =
style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm =
0cm 0cm'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span lang=3DDE>Von:</span></b><span =
lang=3DDE> Dave Riddle &lt;Dave@microworks.net&gt; <br><b>Gesendet:</b> =
Freitag, 10. Juni 2022 21:18<br><b>An:</b> tr4racing@googlemail.com; =
'Philip Gott' &lt;vfracing@aol.com&gt;<br><b>Cc:</b> =
fot@autox.team.net<br><b>Betreff:</b> RE: [Fot] To thermostat or not to =
thermostat...<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'color:#1F497D'>Brand new Aluminum Radiator from Wizard and all =
new hoses <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><div><div =
style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm =
0cm 0cm'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif'>From:</span></=
b><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif'> <a =
href=3D"mailto:tr4racing@googlemail.com";>tr4racing@googlemail.com</a> =
[<a =
href=3D"mailto:tr4racing@googlemail.com";>mailto:tr4racing@googlemail.com<=
/a>] <br><b>Sent:</b> Friday, June 10, 2022 12:17 PM<br><b>To:</b> =
'Philip Gott'; Dave Riddle<br><b>Cc:</b> <a =
href=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net";>fot@autox.team.net</a><br><b>Subject:<=
/b> AW: [Fot] To thermostat or not to =
thermostat...<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>Yeah, that =
was my thought.<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>Besides =
that, I use a thermostat in my TR4.<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Cheers<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Chris<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><div =
style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm =
0cm 0cm'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span lang=3DDE>Von:</span></b><span =
lang=3DDE> Fot &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net";>fot-bounces@autox.team.net</a>=
&gt; <b>Im Auftrag von </b>Philip Gott via Fot<br><b>Gesendet:</b> =
Freitag, 10. Juni 2022 21:07<br><b>An:</b> Dave Riddle &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:Dave@microworks.net";>Dave@microworks.net</a>&gt;<br><b>Cc:=
</b> <a =
href=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net";>fot@autox.team.net</a><br><b>Betreff:<=
/b> Re: [Fot] To thermostat or not to =
thermostat...<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'>Time to get the radiator =
flushed.<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>Sent from my =
iPhone<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><blockquote =
style=3D'margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'>On Jun 10, 2022, at 2:25 PM, Dave Riddle =
via Fot &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net";>fot@autox.team.net</a>&gt; =
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote></div><blockquote =
style=3D'margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>=EF=BB=BF<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>I have =
the thermostat housing open right now and have obtained a new 180 degree =
thermostat to replace the 180 degree Motorad one that has been in there =
since the 1990s.&nbsp; The old one I put in a pot and saw it open when I =
heated the water but It is still suspect.&nbsp; Here in the Phoenix area =
it is the rare day that we really need to be concerned with ambient =
temps leading to prolonged engine warm up conditions. Lately I had =
noticed that when running for prolonged times at Freeway speeds (+75 at =
3500 RPM) the temps would quickly reach +230 and if I jumped off the =
Freeway and moved at surface Street speeds of 45 even with Stop and Go =
streetlights within a mile or two the temps had dropped back to between =
210 and 220.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Should I look at using a 160 degree thermostat or just =
ditching one altogether?<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'color:blue'><a href=3D"http://www.microworks.net/";><span =
style=3D'text-decoration:none'>&lt;image001.jpg&gt;</span></a><span =
class=3DMsoHyperlink><span =
style=3D'text-decoration:none'><o:p></o:p></span></span></span></p></div>=
<p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>Dave Riddle</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Business IT Consulting<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Office: 480-610-8234<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>eMail: <a =
href=3D"mailto:dave@microworks.net";>dave@microworks.net</a><o:p></o:p></p=
><p class=3DMsoNormal>Website: <a =
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