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Subject: Re: [Fot] To thermostat or not to thermostat...
From: Tony Drews via Fot <fot@autox.team.net>
Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2022 14:27:44 -0500
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Radiator shroud intact?  That's kind of vital.

Regards, Tony

On 6/10/2022 2:25 PM, Chris Marx via Fot wrote:
>
> Somehow your radiator system is inefficient.
>
> My TR4 temperature is nailed to 185F and donâ??t move away fromâ?¦range 
> maybe from 180 to 190.
>
> I use:
>
>   * Good aluminum radiator
>   * Blocked small circuit
>   * Automatic bleeding system
>   * 7 blade pump
>   * Smaller drive pulley to lower water pump speed
>
> *Von:*Dave Riddle <Dave@microworks.net>
> *Gesendet:* Freitag, 10. Juni 2022 21:18
> *An:* tr4racing@googlemail.com; 'Philip Gott' <vfracing@aol.com>
> *Cc:* fot@autox.team.net
> *Betreff:* RE: [Fot] To thermostat or not to thermostat...
>
> Brand new Aluminum Radiator from Wizard and all new hoses
>
> *From:*tr4racing@googlemail.com [mailto:tr4racing@googlemail.com 
> *Sent:* Friday, June 10, 2022 12:17 PM
> *To:* 'Philip Gott'; Dave Riddle
> *Cc:* fot@autox.team.net
> *Subject:* AW: [Fot] To thermostat or not to thermostat...
>
> Yeah, that was my thought.
>
> Besides that, I use a thermostat in my TR4.
>
> Cheers
>
> Chris
>
> *Von:*Fot <fot-bounces@autox.team.net> *Im Auftrag von *Philip Gott 
> via Fot
> *Gesendet:* Freitag, 10. Juni 2022 21:07
> *An:* Dave Riddle <Dave@microworks.net>
> *Cc:* fot@autox.team.net
> *Betreff:* Re: [Fot] To thermostat or not to thermostat...
>
> Time to get the radiator flushed.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>     On Jun 10, 2022, at 2:25 PM, Dave Riddle via Fot
>     <fot@autox.team.net> wrote:
>
>     
>
>     I have the thermostat housing open right now and have obtained a
>     new 180 degree thermostat to replace the 180 degree Motorad one
>     that has been in there since the 1990s.  The old one I put in a
>     pot and saw it open when I heated the water but It is still
>     suspect. Here in the Phoenix area it is the rare day that we
>     really need to be concerned with ambient temps leading to
>     prolonged engine warm up conditions. Lately I had noticed that
>     when running for prolonged times at Freeway speeds (+75 at 3500
>     RPM) the temps would quickly reach +230 and if I jumped off the
>     Freeway and moved at surface Street speeds of 45 even with Stop
>     and Go streetlights within a mile or two the temps had dropped
>     back to between 210 and 220.
>
>     Should I look at using a 160 degree thermostat or just ditching
>     one altogether?
>
>     <image001.jpg> <http://www.microworks.net/>
>
>     *Dave Riddle*
>
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>
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>
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    <p>Radiator shroud intact?  That's kind of vital.</p>
    <p>Regards, Tony<br>
    </p>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 6/10/2022 2:25 PM, Chris Marx via
      Fot wrote:<br>
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        <p class="MsoNormal">Somehow your radiator system is
          inefficient.<o:p></o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal">My TR4 temperature is nailed to 185F and
          donâ??t move away fromâ?¦range maybe from 180 to 190.<o:p></o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal">I use:<o:p></o:p></p>
        <ul style="margin-top:0cm" type="disc">
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            style="margin-left:0cm;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1">Good
            aluminum radiator<o:p></o:p></li>
          <li class="MsoListParagraph"
            style="margin-left:0cm;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1">Blocked
            small circuit<o:p></o:p></li>
          <li class="MsoListParagraph"
            style="margin-left:0cm;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1">Automatic
            bleeding system<o:p></o:p></li>
          <li class="MsoListParagraph"
            style="margin-left:0cm;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1">7 blade 
pump<o:p></o:p></li>
          <li class="MsoListParagraph"
            style="margin-left:0cm;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1">Smaller
            drive pulley to lower water pump speed <o:p></o:p></li>
        </ul>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="DE">Von:</span></b><span
                lang="DE"> Dave Riddle <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" 
href="mailto:Dave@microworks.net";>&lt;Dave@microworks.net&gt;</a> <br>
                <b>Gesendet:</b> Freitag, 10. Juni 2022 21:18<br>
                <b>An:</b> <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" 
href="mailto:tr4racing@googlemail.com";>tr4racing@googlemail.com</a>; 'Philip 
Gott'
                <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" 
href="mailto:vfracing@aol.com";>&lt;vfracing@aol.com&gt;</a><br>
                <b>Cc:</b> <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" 
href="mailto:fot@autox.team.net";>fot@autox.team.net</a><br>
                <b>Betreff:</b> RE: [Fot] To thermostat or not to
                thermostat...<o:p></o:p></span></p>
          </div>
        </div>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Brand new
            Aluminum Radiator from Wizard and all new hoses 
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span 
style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
                  
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,sans-serif">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,sans-serif"> <a
                  href="mailto:tr4racing@googlemail.com";
                  moz-do-not-send="true" 
class="moz-txt-link-freetext">tr4racing@googlemail.com</a>
                [<a href="mailto:tr4racing@googlemail.com";
                  moz-do-not-send="true">mailto:tr4racing@googlemail.com</a>]
                <br>
                <b>Sent:</b> Friday, June 10, 2022 12:17 PM<br>
                <b>To:</b> 'Philip Gott'; Dave Riddle<br>
                <b>Cc:</b> <a href="mailto:fot@autox.team.net";
                  moz-do-not-send="true" 
class="moz-txt-link-freetext">fot@autox.team.net</a><br>
                <b>Subject:</b> AW: [Fot] To thermostat or not to
                thermostat...<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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        <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal">Yeah, that was my thought.<o:p></o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal">Besides that, I use a thermostat in my 
TR4.<o:p></o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal">Cheers<o:p></o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal">Chris<o:p></o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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                lang="DE"> Fot &lt;<a
                  href="mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net";
                  moz-do-not-send="true" 
class="moz-txt-link-freetext">fot-bounces@autox.team.net</a>&gt;
                <b>Im Auftrag von </b>Philip Gott via Fot<br>
                <b>Gesendet:</b> Freitag, 10. Juni 2022 21:07<br>
                <b>An:</b> Dave Riddle &lt;<a
                  href="mailto:Dave@microworks.net";
                  moz-do-not-send="true" 
class="moz-txt-link-freetext">Dave@microworks.net</a>&gt;<br>
                <b>Cc:</b> <a href="mailto:fot@autox.team.net";
                  moz-do-not-send="true" 
class="moz-txt-link-freetext">fot@autox.team.net</a><br>
                <b>Betreff:</b> Re: [Fot] To thermostat or not to
                thermostat...<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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        <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">Time to get
          the radiator flushed.<o:p></o:p></p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal">Sent from my iPhone<o:p></o:p></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">On Jun 10,
              2022, at 2:25 PM, Dave Riddle via Fot &lt;<a
                href="mailto:fot@autox.team.net"; moz-do-not-send="true"
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            <p class="MsoNormal">I have the thermostat housing open
              right now and have obtained a new 180 degree thermostat to
              replace the 180 degree Motorad one that has been in there
              since the 1990s.  The old one I put in a pot and saw it
              open when I heated the water but It is still suspect. 
              Here in the Phoenix area it is the rare day that we really
              need to be concerned with ambient temps leading to
              prolonged engine warm up conditions. Lately I had noticed
              that when running for prolonged times at Freeway speeds
              (+75 at 3500 RPM) the temps would quickly reach +230 and
              if I jumped off the Freeway and moved at surface Street
              speeds of 45 even with Stop and Go streetlights within a
              mile or two the temps had dropped back to between 210 and
              220.<o:p></o:p></p>
            <p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
            <p class="MsoNormal">Should I look at using a 160 degree
              thermostat or just ditching one altogether?<o:p></o:p></p>
            <p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Dave
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            <p class="MsoNormal">Business IT Consulting<o:p></o:p></p>
            <p class="MsoNormal">Office: 480-610-8234<o:p></o:p></p>
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