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Re: [Healeys] Semantic Battles over Silly Things

To: Tom Felts <tomfelts@windstream.net>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Semantic Battles over Silly Things
From: Chris Dimmock <austin.healey@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 14 Jun 2013 13:28:59 +1000
Cc: "editorgary@aol.com" <editorgary@aol.com>, "healeys@autox.team.net" <healeys@autox.team.net>
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Hi all,

Let me clarify my point that ethlene glycol is not as efficient a coolant as
water...

Here's a reference;

"The specific heat capacity of ethylene glycol based water solutions are less
than the specific heat capacity of clean water. For a heat transfer system
with ethylene glycol the circulated volume must be increased compared to a
system with clean water."

http://www.engineeringtoolbox.com/ethylene-glycol-d_146.html

There is even a chart, which indicates running 50% ethlene glycol as a
"coolant" requires an increase in your coolant capacity of 14%, assuming your
engine is running at around 185 F

My owners handbook refers to using water as a coolant, and only adding ethlene
glycol as an antifreeze in freezing conditions. But what would the blokes that
built the cooling system know??
I think most people who have owned Healeys for a while, in a hot climate, not
subject to freezing conditions, have realised they have less overheating
related issues with water and some kind of anti corrosion protection, than
they do with 50% or so ethylene glycol.
I solved all my bugeye sprite cooling issues when I changed back to water 30
years ago. I'd put 60% ethylene glycol in it to drive down to the snowy
mountains. It overheated all the way there, and all the way back.... No
problems when I switched back to water. And yes, it was a heavily modified
sprite, 1220cc, 1.5 in SU's etc
Best
Chris
Sent from my iPhone

On 14/06/2013, at 5:02 AM, Tom Felts <tomfelts@windstream.net> wrote:

> Well---there you have it-----your quick and dirty is better that others:)
>
>
> ---- editorgary@aol.com wrote:
>
> =============
> As an editor (of a car magazine), I just love these semantic battles:
> Are antifreeze and coolant the same thing by different names? And who sez?
>
> One person's quick-and-dirty wikipedish online source says they're the
same.
>
>
> BUT, my primary reference for this kind of information, the Road & Track
> Automotive Dictionary (John Dinkel, Bentley Publishers, 2000), says:
>
> "Antifreeze: Any of several substances (commonly liquids and typically
> ethylene glycolo) mixed with water and added to a car's cooling system to
> lower the freezing point of the coolant and to inhibit formation of rust
and
> other deposits."
>
> Note that according to them, the two terms are obviously different, and
also
> note, according to them, Antifreeze DOES NOT RAISE THE BOILING POINT OF THE
> COOLANT. Only something like Water Wetter can actually do that.
>
> So there, for what it's worth.
>
> Gary
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