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Re: [Healeys] Steering Box and Wire Wheel Questions--BJ8

To: "'Michael'" <michael.salter@gmail.com>, <healeys@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Steering Box and Wire Wheel Questions--BJ8
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Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2015 19:04:19 -0400
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               Mike, while I would whole heartedly agree that grease is =
not a good lubricant for steering boxes, or any gearbox for that matter, =
the John Deere =E2=80=98grease=E2=80=99 that is refered to is quite =
different and specifically designed for gearboxes.  It is formulated for =
gear teeth under much higher loads than our steering boxes will ever =
encounter, and covers the teeth with a visible oily coating.  We have =
been using it for several years with very good results and no steering =
box failures=E2=80=A6.. or leaking.

Cheers=E2=80=A6Bob Yule Autofarm Ltd.

=20

From: Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of =
Michael
Sent: June-15-15 8:11 AM
To: healeys@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Steering Box and Wire Wheel Questions--BJ8

=20

With all due respects to those recommending it for steering boxes grease =
is not a satisfactory lubricant for any type of precision gearbox.
The reason is very simple.
The pressure on the gear teeth will displace the lubricant from the =
loaded faces so that lubricant must be a liquid to be replenished.
That is why the designers went to all the trouble of installing a seal.
Michael S
BN1 #174

  _____ =20

Sent: =E2=80=8E14/=E2=80=8E06/=E2=80=8E2015 5:00 p.m.
To: healeys@autox.team.net
Subject: [Healeys] Steering Box and Wire Wheel Questions--BJ8

I have recently been hearing a "pop pop" noise coming from the right =
front suspension area when making a slow full right turn.

I do not hear it when making a full turn when the car is on concrete and =
is not moving.

I noted this same condition on my E-Type also. =20

I have Dayton wire wheels on both and relatively new hubs. =20

It is not the spinners or a wheel bearing or worn splines.

Several listers on the Jag list have said they had the same problem and =
found that the quality of the Dayton's had gone down and they did not =
fit flush with the hub--thus causing the noise while making a sharp =
turn.  Their solution was to get new hubs and Dunlop wires and that =
solved their problem.

Question---------have any of you had this problem and if so what did you =
determine was the issue and how did you solve it?

Question #2------The BJ8 steering box is leaking oil (assume bad oil =
seal) and the dust excluder has disintegrated.  Is it possible to =
replace these 2 items while the steering box is still in the car by =
removing the lower nut and steering lever?

Thanks for any help.

tom
65 BJ8
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=C2=A0=C2=A0 Mike, while I would whole heartedly agree that grease is =
not a good lubricant for steering boxes, or any gearbox for that matter, =
the John Deere =E2=80=98grease=E2=80=99 that is refered to is quite =
different and specifically designed for gearboxes.=C2=A0 It is =
formulated for gear teeth under much higher loads than our steering =
boxes will ever encounter, and covers the teeth with a visible oily =
coating.=C2=A0 We have been using it for several years with very good =
results and no steering box failures=E2=80=A6.. or =
leaking.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>Cheers=E2=80=A6Bob Yule Autofarm Ltd.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
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0cm 0cm'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span>=
</b><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Healeys =
[mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net] <b>On Behalf Of =
</b>Michael<br><b>Sent:</b> June-15-15 8:11 AM<br><b>To:</b> =
healeys@autox.team.net<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys] Steering Box and =
Wire Wheel Questions--BJ8<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>With all =
due respects to those recommending it for steering boxes grease is not a =
satisfactory lubricant for any type of precision gearbox.<br>The reason =
is very simple.<br>The pressure on the gear teeth will displace the =
lubricant from the loaded faces so that lubricant must be a liquid to be =
replenished.<br>That is why the designers went to all the trouble of =
installing a seal.<br>Michael S<br>BN1 =
#174<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div class=3DMsoNormal =
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style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><b><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>From: =
</span></b><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><a =
href=3D"mailto:tomfelts@windstream.net";>Tom Felts</a></span><br><b><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Sent: =
</span></b><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>=E2=80=8E14=
/=E2=80=8E06/=E2=80=8E2015 5:00 p.m.</span><br><b><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>To: =
</span></b><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><a =
href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net";>healeys@autox.team.net</a></span><=
br><b><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Subject: =
</span></b><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>[Healeys] =
Steering Box and Wire Wheel Questions--BJ8</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'>I have recently been =
hearing a &quot;pop pop&quot; noise coming from the right front =
suspension area when making a slow full right turn.<br><br>I do not hear =
it when making a full turn when the car is on concrete and is not =
moving.<br><br>I noted this same condition on my E-Type also.&nbsp; =
<br><br>I have Dayton wire wheels on both and relatively new hubs.&nbsp; =
<br><br>It is not the spinners or a wheel bearing or worn =
splines.<br><br>Several listers on the Jag list have said they had the =
same problem and found that the quality of the Dayton's had gone down =
and they did not fit flush with the hub--thus causing the noise while =
making a sharp turn.&nbsp; Their solution was to get new hubs and Dunlop =
wires and that solved their problem.<br><br>Question---------have any of =
you had this problem and if so what did you determine was the issue and =
how did you solve it?<br><br>Question #2------The BJ8 steering box is =
leaking oil (assume bad oil seal) and the dust excluder has =
disintegrated.&nbsp; Is it possible to replace these 2 items while the =
steering box is still in the car by removing the lower nut and steering =
lever?<br><br>Thanks for any help.<br><br>tom<br>65 =
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