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Re: [Healeys] Steering Box and Wire Wheel Questions--BJ8

To: Alan Seigrist <healey.nut@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Steering Box and Wire Wheel Questions--BJ8
From: I Erbs <eyera3@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2015 17:32:52 -0700
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I went to part store and bought pump and stuck it in bottle when I used
penrite.  Got one for $8,00 cheap plastic one

Mr. Ira Erbs
On Jun 16, 2015 3:45 PM, "Alan Seigrist" <healey.nut@gmail.com> wrote:

> It liquifies under load, so probably just heat it up a bit and pour it in.
>
> On Wednesday, June 17, 2015, Tom Felts <tomfelts@windstream.net> wrote:
>
>> OK------so today I went out and bought a tube of John Deere Corn Head
>> grease--14oz.   Then I began to wonder how exactly I'd get all this gunk
>> into the steering box.
>>
>> I will try letting the grease sit in the sun and get good and hot and
>> then just use a hand grease gun and lots of time to fill it.
>>
>> Anyone done it differently?
>>
>> tom
>> ---- Earl Kagna <kags@shaw.ca> wrote:
>>
>> =============
>> Tom:
>>
>> I agree with all of the responses on the leaking steering box.  ie: if you
>> decide to replace parts, do it right - remove the column and do it on the
>> bench.
>>
>> Here is worked for me - several years ago for my tri-carb:  Drain the box
>> in
>> place - loosen the bolts for the bottom plate enough to allow whatever is
>> in
>> there to drain.  Allow lots of time for as complete a drain as possible.
>> I
>> left mine for 2 -3 days.  Tighten the bolts and get some light grease -
>> one
>> lister recommended some John Deere stuff, I used Penrite steering box
>> lube.
>> It's specifically designed for old car steering boxes.  It's pretty thick,
>> so I heated it in order to get it to flow so I could get it into the box.
>> It's been probably close to 10 years, and the box hasn't leaked yet, and
>> the
>> steering works just fine.
>>
>> I'm so impressed with that stuff, that it went into the BJ8's steering box
>> and idler upon assembly at the restoration a couple of years ago.  I would
>> try this before you start tearing things apart.
>>
>> Sorry, I can't help with the wheel / noise problem.  I know from personal
>> experience that Dayton has had some problems the last couple years, but
>> don't know of any problems like you have.  Apparently the MWS wheels are
>> much better at this time - I'm told that they come out of the box nice and
>> round.
>>
>> Earl Kagna
>> Victoria, B.C.
>> BJ8, BT7 tri-carb
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Tom Felts
>> Sent: Sunday, June 14, 2015 1:53 PM
>> To: healeys@autox.team.net
>> Subject: [Healeys] Steering Box and Wire Wheel Questions--BJ8
>>
>> I have recently been hearing a "pop pop" noise coming from the right front
>> suspension area when making a slow full right turn.
>>
>> I do not hear it when making a full turn when the car is on concrete and
>> is
>> not moving.
>>
>> I noted this same condition on my E-Type also.
>>
>> I have Dayton wire wheels on both and relatively new hubs.
>>
>> It is not the spinners or a wheel bearing or worn splines.
>>
>> Several listers on the Jag list have said they had the same problem and
>> found that the quality of the Dayton's had gone down and they did not fit
>> flush with the hub--thus causing the noise while making a sharp turn.
>> Their
>> solution was to get new hubs and Dunlop wires and that solved their
>> problem.
>>
>> Question---------have any of you had this problem and if so what did you
>> determine was the issue and how did you solve it?
>>
>> Question #2------The BJ8 steering box is leaking oil (assume bad oil seal)
>> and the dust excluder has disintegrated.  Is it possible to replace these
>> 2
>> items while the steering box is still in the car by removing the lower nut
>> and steering lever?
>>
>> Thanks for any help.
>>
>> tom
>> 65 BJ8
>>
>>
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<p dir=3D"ltr">I went to part store and bought pump and stuck it in bottle =
when I used penrite.=C2=A0 Got one for $8,00 cheap plastic one</p>
<p dir=3D"ltr">Mr. Ira Erbs</p>
<div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Jun 16, 2015 3:45 PM, &quot;Alan Seigrist&quo=
t; &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:healey.nut@gmail.com";>healey.nut@gmail.com</a>&gt;=
 wrote:<br type=3D"attribution"><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"=
margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">It liquifies=
 under load, so probably just heat it up a bit and pour it in.<br><br>On We=
dnesday, June 17, 2015, Tom Felts &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:tomfelts@windstream=
.net" target=3D"_blank">tomfelts@windstream.net</a>&gt; wrote:<br><blockquo=
te class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc so=
lid;padding-left:1ex">OK------so today I went out and bought a tube of John=
 Deere Corn Head grease--14oz.=C2=A0 =C2=A0Then I began to wonder how exact=
ly I&#39;d get all this gunk into the steering box.<br>
<br>
I will try letting the grease sit in the sun and get good and hot and then =
just use a hand grease gun and lots of time to fill it.<br>
<br>
Anyone done it differently?<br>
<br>
tom<br>
---- Earl Kagna &lt;<a>kags@shaw.ca</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
<br>
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D<br>
Tom:<br>
<br>
I agree with all of the responses on the leaking steering box.=C2=A0 ie: if=
 you<br>
decide to replace parts, do it right - remove the column and do it on the<b=
r>
bench.<br>
<br>
Here is worked for me - several years ago for my tri-carb:=C2=A0 Drain the =
box in<br>
place - loosen the bolts for the bottom plate enough to allow whatever is i=
n<br>
there to drain.=C2=A0 Allow lots of time for as complete a drain as possibl=
e.=C2=A0 I<br>
left mine for 2 -3 days.=C2=A0 Tighten the bolts and get some light grease =
- one<br>
lister recommended some John Deere stuff, I used Penrite steering box lube.=
<br>
It&#39;s specifically designed for old car steering boxes.=C2=A0 It&#39;s p=
retty thick,<br>
so I heated it in order to get it to flow so I could get it into the box.<b=
r>
It&#39;s been probably close to 10 years, and the box hasn&#39;t leaked yet=
, and the<br>
steering works just fine.<br>
<br>
I&#39;m so impressed with that stuff, that it went into the BJ8&#39;s steer=
ing box<br>
and idler upon assembly at the restoration a couple of years ago.=C2=A0 I w=
ould<br>
try this before you start tearing things apart.<br>
<br>
Sorry, I can&#39;t help with the wheel / noise problem.=C2=A0 I know from p=
ersonal<br>
experience that Dayton has had some problems the last couple years, but<br>
don&#39;t know of any problems like you have.=C2=A0 Apparently the MWS whee=
ls are<br>
much better at this time - I&#39;m told that they come out of the box nice =
and<br>
round.<br>
<br>
Earl Kagna<br>
Victoria, B.C.<br>
BJ8, BT7 tri-carb<br>
<br>
-----Original Message-----<br>
From: Tom Felts<br>
Sent: Sunday, June 14, 2015 1:53 PM<br>
To: <a>healeys@autox.team.net</a><br>
Subject: [Healeys] Steering Box and Wire Wheel Questions--BJ8<br>
<br>
I have recently been hearing a &quot;pop pop&quot; noise coming from the ri=
ght front<br>
suspension area when making a slow full right turn.<br>
<br>
I do not hear it when making a full turn when the car is on concrete and is=
<br>
not moving.<br>
<br>
I noted this same condition on my E-Type also.<br>
<br>
I have Dayton wire wheels on both and relatively new hubs.<br>
<br>
It is not the spinners or a wheel bearing or worn splines.<br>
<br>
Several listers on the Jag list have said they had the same problem and<br>
found that the quality of the Dayton&#39;s had gone down and they did not f=
it<br>
flush with the hub--thus causing the noise while making a sharp turn.=C2=A0=
 Their<br>
solution was to get new hubs and Dunlop wires and that solved their problem=
.<br>
<br>
Question---------have any of you had this problem and if so what did you<br=
>
determine was the issue and how did you solve it?<br>
<br>
Question #2------The BJ8 steering box is leaking oil (assume bad oil seal)<=
br>
and the dust excluder has disintegrated.=C2=A0 Is it possible to replace th=
ese 2<br>
items while the steering box is still in the car by removing the lower nut<=
br>
and steering lever?<br>
<br>
Thanks for any help.<br>
<br>
tom<br>
65 BJ8<br>
<br>
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