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Re: [Healeys] HELP............TIMING

To: "Roger Grace" <roggrace@telus.net>, "Mitch" <dayton21@comcast.net>, "Healey List" <healeys@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] HELP............TIMING
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First problem is that if you are using the number 1 plug you will pick =
up the magnetic field from the ignition coil. Then you also need to get =
rid of the Steel core plug wires. For two reasons first they will cause =
problems with the timing light also they will also cause problems with =
the electronic ignition and will cause pre mature failure.=20

Try putting the pick up on the #6  plug wire.


David Nock
healeydoc@sbcglobal.net
209 948 8767
www.britishcarspecialists.com

From: Roger Grace=20
Sent: Sunday, July 05, 2015 10:07 PM
To: Mitch ; Healey List=20
Subject: Re: [Healeys] HELP............TIMING

Just a caution that if you are using of of the newer =
=E2=80=9Cdigital=E2=80=9D timing lights with this set up you are likely =
to have problems.=20
I have a new Pertronics distributor, flame thrower coil, and neg. earth =
on my 67 BJ8
I decided to buy a decent quality Innova 5568 modern digital timing =
light.
Phew - lots of problems and the light would not move as it was supposed =
to.
Eventually had to get complete set of new plug leads just to get it to =
sort of function.
Unit went back 3x and even today is a mystery if it will work or not.
It is ultra sensitive to noise and position of the magnetic pick up on =
plug #1
Moving it and inch can make the unit inoperable and erratic.
The manufacturer is also at a loss and not able to cure the problem for =
me .... grrr
rg
From: Mitch=20
Sent: Sunday, July 5, 2015 12:57 PM
To: Oudesluys=20
Cc: HEALEY=20
Subject: Re: [Healeys] HELP............TIMING

I set the timing at 15 deg.btdc   at 650 r.p.m.    now I have to adjust. =
carbs   .....they were rebuilt, again.....thanks Mitch



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From: "Oudesluys" <coudesluijs@chello.nl>
To: healeys@autox.team.net
Sent: Sunday, July 5, 2015 11:31:05 AM
Subject: Re: [Healeys] HELP............TIMING



Start the engine and let it idle until warm or drive a few miles to that =
purpose.
Set the idling speed at around 800-900rpm.
Set the dial to the required advance at idling with the vacuum line =
attached (see your workshop manual). Connect up to the battery and =
position the clamp on Nr.1 plug lead.
Loosen the distributor clamp.
Set the distributor to TDC on the marks.
Tighten the clamp, not to tight.
Recheck.
It is that simple.

WATCH OUT though for moving parts like the fan and water pump/dynamo =
pulleys/belts.
Kees Oudesluijs



Mitch schreef op 5-7-2015 om 15:51:

  Hello ,

  I have a 1966 bj8.......I have just replaced my original Lucas =
distributer with a new Pertronics distributer .........I turned the =
engine until the pointer was on the tdc mark on the pulley (on the =
compression stroke) and put the rotor pointing at the #1 spark plug in =
the dist. cap................NOW what do I do? I have a timing light =
with the degree dial on the back,...............what are the next steps =
to set the timing correctly?? do I plug the vacuum, what degrees,do I =
have to start the engine??? etc.................................sorry =
for all the questions

  Mitch



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<DIV>First problem is that if you are using the number 1 plug you will =
pick up=20
the magnetic field from the ignition coil. Then you also need to get rid =
of the=20
Steel core plug wires. For two reasons first they will cause problems =
with the=20
timing light also they will also cause problems with the electronic =
ignition and=20
will cause pre mature failure. </DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Try putting the pick up on the #6&nbsp; plug wire.</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Century'; COLOR: =
#000000">David=20
Nock<BR>healeydoc@sbcglobal.net<BR>209 948=20
8767<BR>www.britishcarspecialists.com</DIV>
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<DIV style=3D"font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A =
title=3Droggrace@telus.net=20
href=3D"mailto:roggrace@telus.net";>Roger Grace</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, July 05, 2015 10:07 PM</DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=3Ddayton21@comcast.net=20
href=3D"mailto:dayton21@comcast.net";>Mitch</A> ; <A =
title=3Dhealeys@autox.team.net=20
href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net";>Healey List</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Healeys] =
HELP............TIMING</DIV></DIV></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV></DIV>
<DIV=20
style=3D'FONT-SIZE: small; TEXT-DECORATION: none; FONT-FAMILY: =
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<DIV>Just a caution that if you are using of of the newer =
=E2=80=9Cdigital=E2=80=9D timing=20
lights with this set up you are likely to have problems. </DIV>
<DIV>I have a new Pertronics distributor, flame thrower coil, and neg. =
earth on=20
my 67 BJ8</DIV>
<DIV>I decided to buy a decent quality Innova 5568 modern digital timing =

light.</DIV>
<DIV>Phew - lots of problems and the light would not move as it was =
supposed=20
to.</DIV>
<DIV>Eventually had to get complete set of new plug leads just to get it =
to sort=20
of function.</DIV>
<DIV>Unit went back 3x and even today is a mystery if it will work or =
not.</DIV>
<DIV>It is ultra sensitive to noise and position of the magnetic pick up =
on plug=20
#1</DIV>
<DIV>Moving it and inch can make the unit inoperable and erratic.</DIV>
<DIV>The manufacturer is also at a loss and not able to cure the problem =
for me=20
.... grrr</DIV>
<DIV>rg</DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV=20
style=3D'FONT-SIZE: small; TEXT-DECORATION: none; FONT-FAMILY: =
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<DIV style=3D"font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A =
title=3Ddayton21@comcast.net=20
href=3D"mailto:dayton21@comcast.net";>Mitch</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, July 5, 2015 12:57 PM</DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=3Dcoudesluijs@chello.nl=20
href=3D"mailto:coudesluijs@chello.nl";>Oudesluys</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Cc:</B> <A title=3Dhealeys@autox.team.net=20
href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net";>HEALEY</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Healeys] =
HELP............TIMING</DIV></DIV></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV></DIV>
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<DIV aria-label=3D"Compose body">I set the timing at 15 =
deg.btdc&nbsp;&nbsp; at=20
650 r.p.m.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; now I have to adjust. carbs&nbsp;&nbsp; =
.....they=20
were rebuilt, again.....thanks Mitch<BR></DIV>
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</B>"Oudesluys" &lt;coudesluijs@chello.nl&gt;<BR><B>To:=20
</B>healeys@autox.team.net<BR><B>Sent: </B>Sunday, July 5, 2015 11:31:05 =

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<DIV class=3Dmoz-cite-prefix><BR>Start the engine and let it idle until =
warm or=20
drive a few miles to that purpose.<BR>Set the idling speed at around=20
800-900rpm.<BR>Set the dial to the required advance at idling with the =
vacuum=20
line attached (see your workshop manual). Connect up to the battery and =
position=20
the clamp on Nr.1 plug lead.<BR>Loosen the distributor clamp.<BR>Set the =

distributor to TDC on the marks.<BR>Tighten the clamp, not to=20
tight.<BR>Recheck.<BR>It is that simple.<BR><BR>WATCH OUT though for =
moving=20
parts like the fan and water pump/dynamo pulleys/belts.<BR>Kees=20
Oudesluijs<BR><BR><BR><BR>Mitch schreef op 5-7-2015 om 15:51:<BR></DIV>
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  <DIV>I have a 1966 bj8.......I have just replaced my original Lucas=20
  distributer with a new Pertronics distributer .........I turned the =
engine=20
  until the pointer was on the tdc mark on the pulley (on the =
compression=20
  stroke) and put the rotor pointing at the #1 spark plug in the dist.=20
  cap................NOW what do I do? I have a timing light with the =
degree=20
  dial on the back,...............what are the next steps to set the =
timing=20
  correctly?? do I plug the vacuum, what degrees,do I have to start the=20
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