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To: David Nock <healeydoc@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] HELP............TIMING
From: Mitch <dayton21@comcast.net>
Date: Tue, 7 Jul 2015 22:34:03 +0000 (UTC)
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steel core plug wires? do you mean copper core?=20
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Mitch=20

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From: "David Nock" <healeydoc@gmail.com>=20
To: "Roger Grace" <roggrace@telus.net>, "Mitch" <dayton21@comcast.net>, "HE=
ALEY" <healeys@autox.team.net>=20
Sent: Monday, July 6, 2015 11:09:21 AM=20
Subject: Re: [Healeys] HELP............TIMING=20

First problem is that if you are using the number 1 plug you will pick up t=
he magnetic field from the ignition coil. Then you also need to get rid of =
the Steel core plug wires. For two reasons first they will cause problems w=
ith the timing light also they will also cause problems with the electronic=
 ignition and will cause pre mature failure.=20
=C2=A0=20
Try putting the pick up on the #6=C2=A0 plug wire.=20
=C2=A0=20
=C2=A0=20
David Nock=20
healeydoc@sbcglobal.net=20
209 948 8767=20
www.britishcarspecialists.com=20
=C2=A0=20
From: Roger Grace=20
Sent: Sunday, July 05, 2015 10:07 PM=20
To: Mitch ; Healey List=20
Subject: Re: [Healeys] HELP............TIMING=20
=C2=A0=20
Just a caution that if you are using of of the newer =E2=80=9Cdigital=E2=80=
=9D timing lights with this set up you are likely to have problems.=20
I have a new Pertronics distributor, flame thrower coil, and neg. earth on =
my 67 BJ8=20
I decided to buy a decent quality Innova 5568 modern digital timing light.=
=20
Phew - lots of problems and the light would not move as it was supposed to.=
=20
Eventually had to get complete set of new plug leads just to get it to sort=
 of function.=20
Unit went back 3x and even today is a mystery if it will work or not.=20
It is ultra sensitive to noise and position of the magnetic pick up on plug=
 #1=20
Moving it and inch can make the unit inoperable and erratic.=20
The manufacturer is also at a loss and not able to cure the problem for me =
.... grrr=20
rg=20

From: Mitch=20
Sent: Sunday, July 5, 2015 12:57 PM=20
To: Oudesluys=20
Cc: HEALEY=20
Subject: Re: [Healeys] HELP............TIMING=20
=C2=A0=20
I set the timing at 15 deg.btdc=C2=A0=C2=A0 at 650 r.p.m.=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=
 now I have to adjust. carbs=C2=A0=C2=A0 .....they were rebuilt, again.....=
thanks Mitch=20
=C2=A0=20
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From: "Oudesluys" <coudesluijs@chello.nl>=20
To: healeys@autox.team.net=20
Sent: Sunday, July 5, 2015 11:31:05 AM=20
Subject: Re: [Healeys] HELP............TIMING=20
=C2=A0=20

Start the engine and let it idle until warm or drive a few miles to that pu=
rpose.=20
Set the idling speed at around 800-900rpm.=20
Set the dial to the required advance at idling with the vacuum line attache=
d (see your workshop manual). Connect up to the battery and position the cl=
amp on Nr.1 plug lead.=20
Loosen the distributor clamp.=20
Set the distributor to TDC on the marks.=20
Tighten the clamp, not to tight.=20
Recheck.=20
It is that simple.=20

WATCH OUT though for moving parts like the fan and water pump/dynamo pulley=
s/belts.=20
Kees Oudesluijs=20



Mitch schreef op 5-7-2015 om 15:51:=20



Hello ,=20
=C2=A0=20
I have a 1966 bj8.......I have just replaced my original Lucas distributer =
with a new Pertronics distributer .........I turned the engine until the po=
inter was on the tdc mark on the pulley (on the compression stroke) and put=
 the rotor pointing at the #1 spark plug in the dist. cap................NO=
W what do I do? I have a timing light with the degree dial on the back,....=
...........what are the next steps to set the timing correctly?? do I plug =
the vacuum, what degrees,do I have to start the engine??? etc..............=
...................sorry for all the questions=20
=C2=A0=20
Mitch=20


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<html><body><div style=3D"font-family: Arial; font-size: 12pt; color: #0000=
00"><DIV aria-label=3D"Compose body">steel core plug wires? do you mean cop=
per core?<BR></DIV>
<DIV aria-label=3D"Compose body">&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV aria-label=3D"Compose body">Mitch</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
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<DIV style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; TEXT-DECORATION: none; FONT-FAMILY: Helvetic=
a,Arial,sans-serif; FONT-WEIGHT: normal; COLOR: #000; FONT-STYLE: normal" d=
ata-mce-style=3D"color: #000; font-weight: normal; font-style: normal; text=
-decoration: none; font-family: Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 12pt=
;"><B>From: </B>"David Nock" &lt;healeydoc@gmail.com&gt;<BR><B>To: </B>"Rog=
er Grace" &lt;roggrace@telus.net&gt;, "Mitch" &lt;dayton21@comcast.net&gt;,=
 "HEALEY" &lt;healeys@autox.team.net&gt;<BR><B>Sent: </B>Monday, July 6, 20=
15 11:09:21 AM<BR><B>Subject: </B>Re: [Healeys] HELP............TIMING<BR>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV dir=3Dltr>
<DIV style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Century'; COLOR: #000000" data=
-mce-style=3D"font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Century'; color: #000000;">
<DIV>First problem is that if you are using the number 1 plug you will pick=
 up the magnetic field from the ignition coil. Then you also need to get ri=
d of the Steel core plug wires. For two reasons first they will cause probl=
ems with the timing light also they will also cause problems with the elect=
ronic ignition and will cause pre mature failure.</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Try putting the pick up on the #6&nbsp; plug wire.</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Century'; COLOR: #000000" data=
-mce-style=3D"font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Century'; color: #000000;">Dav=
id Nock<BR>healeydoc@sbcglobal.net<BR>209 948 8767<BR>www.britishcarspecial=
ists.com</DIV>
<DIV style=3D'FONT-SIZE: small; TEXT-DECORATION: none; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibr=
i"; FONT-WEIGHT: normal; COLOR: #000000; FONT-STYLE: normal; DISPLAY: inlin=
e' data-mce-style=3D"font-size: small; text-decoration: none; font-family: =
'Calibri'; font-weight: normal; color: #000000; font-style: normal; display=
: inline;">
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<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
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<DIV style=3D"font-color: black" data-mce-style=3D"font-color: black;"><B>F=
rom:</B> <A title=3Droggrace@telus.net href=3D"mailto:roggrace@telus.net"; t=
arget=3D_blank data-mce-href=3D"mailto:roggrace@telus.net";>Roger Grace</A><=
/DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, July 05, 2015 10:07 PM</DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=3Ddayton21@comcast.net href=3D"mailto:dayton21@com=
cast.net" target=3D_blank data-mce-href=3D"mailto:dayton21@comcast.net";>Mit=
ch</A> ; <A title=3Dhealeys@autox.team.net href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.tea=
m.net" target=3D_blank data-mce-href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net";>Heal=
ey List</A></DIV>
<DIV><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Healeys] HELP............TIMING</DIV></DIV></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV></DIV>
<DIV style=3D'FONT-SIZE: small; TEXT-DECORATION: none; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibr=
i"; FONT-WEIGHT: normal; COLOR: #000000; FONT-STYLE: normal; DISPLAY: inlin=
e' data-mce-style=3D"font-size: small; text-decoration: none; font-family: =
'Calibri'; font-weight: normal; color: #000000; font-style: normal; display=
: inline;">
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" data-mce-style=3D"font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Comic Sans MS'; color: #=
000000;">
<DIV>Just a caution that if you are using of of the newer =E2=80=9Cdigital=
=E2=80=9D timing lights with this set up you are likely to have problems.</=
DIV>
<DIV>I have a new Pertronics distributor, flame thrower coil, and neg. eart=
h on my 67 BJ8</DIV>
<DIV>I decided to buy a decent quality Innova 5568 modern digital timing li=
ght.</DIV>
<DIV>Phew - lots of problems and the light would not move as it was suppose=
d to.</DIV>
<DIV>Eventually had to get complete set of new plug leads just to get it to=
 sort of function.</DIV>
<DIV>Unit went back 3x and even today is a mystery if it will work or not.<=
/DIV>
<DIV>It is ultra sensitive to noise and position of the magnetic pick up on=
 plug #1</DIV>
<DIV>Moving it and inch can make the unit inoperable and erratic.</DIV>
<DIV>The manufacturer is also at a loss and not able to cure the problem fo=
r me .... grrr</DIV>
<DIV>rg</DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV style=3D'FONT-SIZE: small; TEXT-DECORATION: none; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibr=
i"; FONT-WEIGHT: normal; COLOR: #000000; FONT-STYLE: normal; DISPLAY: inlin=
e' data-mce-style=3D"font-size: small; text-decoration: none; font-family: =
'Calibri'; font-weight: normal; color: #000000; font-style: normal; display=
: inline;"><BR></DIV>
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<DIV style=3D"font-color: black" data-mce-style=3D"font-color: black;"><B>F=
rom:</B> <A title=3Ddayton21@comcast.net href=3D"mailto:dayton21@comcast.ne=
t" target=3D_blank data-mce-href=3D"mailto:dayton21@comcast.net";>Mitch</A><=
/DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, July 5, 2015 12:57 PM</DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=3Dcoudesluijs@chello.nl href=3D"mailto:coudesluijs=
@chello.nl" target=3D_blank data-mce-href=3D"mailto:coudesluijs@chello.nl";>=
Oudesluys</A></DIV>
<DIV><B>Cc:</B> <A title=3Dhealeys@autox.team.net href=3D"mailto:healeys@au=
tox.team.net" target=3D_blank data-mce-href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.ne=
t">HEALEY</A></DIV>
<DIV><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Healeys] HELP............TIMING</DIV></DIV></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV></DIV>
<DIV style=3D'FONT-SIZE: small; TEXT-DECORATION: none; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibr=
i"; FONT-WEIGHT: normal; COLOR: #000000; FONT-STYLE: normal; DISPLAY: inlin=
e' data-mce-style=3D"font-size: small; text-decoration: none; font-family: =
'Calibri'; font-weight: normal; color: #000000; font-style: normal; display=
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-style=3D"font-size: 12pt; font-family: arial; color: #000000;">
<DIV>I set the timing at 15 deg.btdc&nbsp;&nbsp; at 650 r.p.m.&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp; now I have to adjust. carbs&nbsp;&nbsp; .....they were rebuilt, again=
.....thanks Mitch<BR></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
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<DIV style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; TEXT-DECORATION: none; FONT-FAMILY: helvetic=
a,arial,sans-serif; FONT-WEIGHT: normal; COLOR: #000; FONT-STYLE: normal" d=
ata-mce-style=3D"font-size: 12pt; text-decoration: none; font-family: helve=
tica,arial,sans-serif; font-weight: normal; color: #000; font-style: normal=
;"><B>From: </B>"Oudesluys" &lt;coudesluijs@chello.nl&gt;<BR><B>To: </B>hea=
leys@autox.team.net<BR><B>Sent: </B>Sunday, July 5, 2015 11:31:05 AM<BR><B>=
Subject: </B>Re: [Healeys] HELP............TIMING<BR>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV class=3Dmoz-cite-prefix><BR>Start the engine and let it idle until war=
m or drive a few miles to that purpose.<BR>Set the idling speed at around 8=
00-900rpm.<BR>Set the dial to the required advance at idling with the vacuu=
m line attached (see your workshop manual). Connect up to the battery and p=
osition the clamp on Nr.1 plug lead.<BR>Loosen the distributor clamp.<BR>Se=
t the distributor to TDC on the marks.<BR>Tighten the clamp, not to tight.<=
BR>Recheck.<BR>It is that simple.<BR>
<DIV><BR></DIV>WATCH OUT though for moving parts like the fan and water pum=
p/dynamo pulleys/belts.<BR>Kees Oudesluijs<BR>
<DIV><BR></DIV><BR>
<DIV><BR></DIV>Mitch schreef op 5-7-2015 om 15:51:<BR></DIV>
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ast.net>
<DIV>
<DIV>Hello ,</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>I have a 1966 bj8.......I have just replaced my original Lucas distrib=
uter with a new Pertronics distributer .........I turned the engine until t=
he pointer was on the tdc mark on the pulley (on the compression stroke) an=
d put the rotor pointing at the #1 spark plug in the dist. cap.............=
...NOW what do I do? I have a timing light with the degree dial on the back=
,...............what are the next steps to set the timing correctly?? do I =
plug the vacuum, what degrees,do I have to start the engine??? etc.........=
........................sorry for all the questions</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Mitch</DIV></DIV><BR>
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