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Date: Wed, 08 Jul 2015 08:18:44 +0200
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I presume that any car accessories shop can supply the plug wires you 
want. Alternatively look at ebay.
Kees Oudesluijs


Niels Bengaard schreef op 6-7-2015 om 20:13:
>
> I have the same problem setting my ignition. These other type of wires 
> how do you get them, are they standard from another car?
>
> Preferably a European supplier.
>
> Niels
>
> *Fra:*Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net] *PÃ¥ vegne af 
> *David Nock
> *Sendt:* 6. juli 2015 17:09
> *Til:* Roger Grace; Mitch; Healey List
> *Emne:* Re: [Healeys] HELP............TIMING
>
> First problem is that if you are using the number 1 plug you will pick 
> up the magnetic field from the ignition coil. Then you also need to 
> get rid of the Steel core plug wires. For two reasons first they will 
> cause problems with the timing light also they will also cause 
> problems with the electronic ignition and will cause pre mature failure.
>
> Try putting the pick up on the #6  plug wire.
>
> David Nock
> 209 948 8767
> www.britishcarspecialists.com <http://www.britishcarspecialists.com>
>
>
> *Sent:*Sunday, July 05, 2015 10:07 PM
>
>
> *Subject:*Re: [Healeys] HELP............TIMING
>
> Just a caution that if you are using of of the newer â??digitalâ?? timing 
> lights with this set up you are likely to have problems.
>
> I have a new Pertronics distributor, flame thrower coil, and neg. 
> earth on my 67 BJ8
>
> I decided to buy a decent quality Innova 5568 modern digital timing light.
>
> Phew - lots of problems and the light would not move as it was 
> supposed to.
>
> Eventually had to get complete set of new plug leads just to get it to 
> sort of function.
>
> Unit went back 3x and even today is a mystery if it will work or not.
>
> It is ultra sensitive to noise and position of the magnetic pick up on 
> plug #1
>
> Moving it and inch can make the unit inoperable and erratic.
>
> The manufacturer is also at a loss and not able to cure the problem 
> for me .... grrr
>
> rg
>
>
> *Sent:*Sunday, July 5, 2015 12:57 PM
>
>
>
> *Subject:*Re: [Healeys] HELP............TIMING
>
> I set the timing at 15 deg.btdc   at 650 r.p.m.    now I have to 
> adjust. carbs   .....they were rebuilt, again.....thanks Mitch
>
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>
> *Sent: *Sunday, July 5, 2015 11:31:05 AM
> *Subject: *Re: [Healeys] HELP............TIMING
>
>
> Start the engine and let it idle until warm or drive a few miles to 
> that purpose.
> Set the idling speed at around 800-900rpm.
> Set the dial to the required advance at idling with the vacuum line 
> attached (see your workshop manual). Connect up to the battery and 
> position the clamp on Nr.1 plug lead.
> Loosen the distributor clamp.
> Set the distributor to TDC on the marks.
> Tighten the clamp, not to tight.
> Recheck.
> It is that simple.
>
> WATCH OUT though for moving parts like the fan and water pump/dynamo 
> pulleys/belts.
> Kees Oudesluijs
>
>
>
> Mitch schreef op 5-7-2015 om 15:51:
>
>     Hello ,
>
>     I have a 1966 bj8.......I have just replaced my original Lucas
>     distributer with a new Pertronics distributer .........I turned
>     the engine until the pointer was on the tdc mark on the pulley (on
>     the compression stroke) and put the rotor pointing at the #1 spark
>     plug in the dist. cap................NOW what do I do? I have a
>     timing light with the degree dial on the back,...............what
>     are the next steps to set the timing correctly?? do I plug the
>     vacuum, what degrees,do I have to start the engine???
>     etc.................................sorry for all the questions
>
>     Mitch
>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">I presume that any car accessories shop
      can supply the plug wires you want. Alternatively look at ebay.<br>
      Kees Oudesluijs<br>
      <br>
      <br>
      Niels Bengaard schreef op 6-7-2015 om 20:13:<br>
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        <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">I have the same problem
            setting my ignition. These other type of wires how do you
            get them, are they standard from another car? </span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Preferably a European
            supplier.</span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"> </span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Niels</span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"> </span></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span>Fra:</span></b><span> Healeys
                [<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" 
href="mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net";>mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net</a>]
 <b>PÃ¥ vegne af
                </b>David Nock<br>
                <b>Sendt:</b> 6. juli 2015 17:09<br>
                <b>Til:</b> Roger Grace; Mitch; Healey List<br>
                <b>Emne:</b> Re: [Healeys] HELP............TIMING</span></p>
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        <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
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            <div>
              <p class="MsoNormal"><span>First problem is that if you
                  are using the number 1 plug you will pick up the
                  magnetic field from the ignition coil. Then you also
                  need to get rid of the Steel core plug wires. For two
                  reasons first they will cause problems with the timing
                  light also they will also cause problems with the
                  electronic ignition and will cause pre mature failure.
                </span></p>
            </div>
            <div>
              <p class="MsoNormal"><span> </span></p>
            </div>
            <div>
              <p class="MsoNormal"><span>Try putting the pick up on the
                  #6  plug wire.</span></p>
            </div>
            <div>
              <p class="MsoNormal"><span> </span></p>
            </div>
            <div>
              <p class="MsoNormal"><span> </span></p>
            </div>
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              <p class="MsoNormal"><span>David Nock<br>
                  <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                    
href="mailto:healeydoc@sbcglobal.net";>healeydoc@sbcglobal.net</a><br>
                  209 948 8767<br>
                  <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                    
href="http://www.britishcarspecialists.com";>www.britishcarspecialists.com</a></span></p>
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                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span> </span></p>
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                    <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span>From:</span></b><span>
                        <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                          href="mailto:roggrace@telus.net";
                          title="roggrace@telus.net">Roger Grace</a> </span></p>
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                    <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span>Sent:</span></b><span>
                        Sunday, July 05, 2015 10:07 PM</span></p>
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                    <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span>To:</span></b><span> <a
                          moz-do-not-send="true"
                          href="mailto:dayton21@comcast.net";
                          title="dayton21@comcast.net">Mitch</a> ; <a
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                          title="healeys@autox.team.net">Healey List</a>
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                    <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span>Subject:</span></b><span>
                        Re: [Healeys] HELP............TIMING</span></p>
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                <p class="MsoNormal"><span> </span></p>
              </div>
            </div>
            <div>
              <div>
                <div>
                  <div>
                    <p class="MsoNormal"><span>Just a caution that if
                        you are using of of the newer â??digitalâ?? timing
                        lights with this set up you are likely to have
                        problems. </span></p>
                  </div>
                  <div>
                    <p class="MsoNormal"><span>I have a new Pertronics
                        distributor, flame thrower coil, and neg. earth
                        on my 67 BJ8</span></p>
                  </div>
                  <div>
                    <p class="MsoNormal"><span>I decided to buy a decent
                        quality Innova 5568 modern digital timing 
light.</span></p>
                  </div>
                  <div>
                    <p class="MsoNormal"><span>Phew - lots of problems
                        and the light would not move as it was supposed
                        to.</span></p>
                  </div>
                  <div>
                    <p class="MsoNormal"><span>Eventually had to get
                        complete set of new plug leads just to get it to
                        sort of function.</span></p>
                  </div>
                  <div>
                    <p class="MsoNormal"><span>Unit went back 3x and
                        even today is a mystery if it will work or 
not.</span></p>
                  </div>
                  <div>
                    <p class="MsoNormal"><span>It is ultra sensitive to
                        noise and position of the magnetic pick up on
                        plug #1</span></p>
                  </div>
                  <div>
                    <p class="MsoNormal"><span>Moving it and inch can
                        make the unit inoperable and erratic.</span></p>
                  </div>
                  <div>
                    <p class="MsoNormal"><span>The manufacturer is also
                        at a loss and not able to cure the problem for
                        me .... grrr</span></p>
                  </div>
                  <div>
                    <p class="MsoNormal"><span>rg</span></p>
                  </div>
                  <div>
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                          <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span>From:</span></b><span>
                              <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                                href="mailto:dayton21@comcast.net";
                                title="dayton21@comcast.net">Mitch</a> 
</span></p>
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                          <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span>Sent:</span></b><span>
                              Sunday, July 5, 2015 12:57 PM</span></p>
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                          <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span>To:</span></b><span>
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                                title="coudesluijs@chello.nl">Oudesluys</a>
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                          <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span>Cc:</span></b><span>
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                              Re: [Healeys] HELP............TIMING</span></p>
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                      <p class="MsoNormal"><span> </span></p>
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                        <p class="MsoNormal"><span>I set the timing at
                            15 deg.btdc   at 650 r.p.m.    now I have to
                            adjust. carbs   .....they were rebuilt,
                            again.....thanks Mitch</span></p>
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                            <b>Sent: </b>Sunday, July 5, 2015 11:31:05
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                            <b>Subject: </b>Re: [Healeys]
                            HELP............TIMING</span></p>
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                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"><br>
                            </span><span>Start the engine and let it
                              idle until warm or drive a few miles to
                              that purpose.<br>
                              Set the idling speed at around 800-900rpm.<br>
                              Set the dial to the required advance at
                              idling with the vacuum line attached (see
                              your workshop manual). Connect up to the
                              battery and position the clamp on Nr.1
                              plug lead.<br>
                              Loosen the distributor clamp.<br>
                              Set the distributor to TDC on the marks.<br>
                              Tighten the clamp, not to tight.<br>
                              Recheck.<br>
                              It is that simple.<br>
                              <br>
                              WATCH OUT though for moving parts like the
                              fan and water pump/dynamo pulleys/belts.<br>
                              Kees Oudesluijs<br>
                              <br>
                              <br>
                              <br>
                              Mitch schreef op 5-7-2015 om 15:51:</span></p>
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                              <p class="MsoNormal"><span>Hello ,</span></p>
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                              <p class="MsoNormal"><span> </span></p>
                            </div>
                            <div>
                              <p class="MsoNormal"><span>I have a 1966
                                  bj8.......I have just replaced my
                                  original Lucas distributer with a new
                                  Pertronics distributer .........I
                                  turned the engine until the pointer
                                  was on the tdc mark on the pulley (on
                                  the compression stroke) and put the
                                  rotor pointing at the #1 spark plug in
                                  the dist. cap................NOW what
                                  do I do? I have a timing light with
                                  the degree dial on the
                                  back,...............what are the next
                                  steps to set the timing correctly?? do
                                  I plug the vacuum, what degrees,do I
                                  have to start the engine???
                                  etc.................................sorry
                                  for all the questions</span></p>
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                              <p class="MsoNormal"><span> </span></p>
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                              <p class="MsoNormal"><span>Mitch</span></p>
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      <p class="">Geen virus gevonden in dit bericht.<br>
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