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Jet-Hot's contact info is:
http://www.jet-hot.com/contact/
Best--Michael Oritt
On Tue, Nov 17, 2015 at 2:11 PM, Al Fuller <al@bighealey.org> wrote:
> Michael: can you share with us who you use for the Jet-Hot coating?
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
>
>
> Al Fuller
>
> al at bighealey dot org
>
> '65 BJ-8
>
> '85 Rx-7
>
>
>
> *From:* Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net] *On Behalf Of *Michael
> Oritt
> *Sent:* Sunday, November 15, 2015 10:11 AM
> *To:* Bob Spidell <bspidell@comcast.net>
> *Cc:* healeys <healeys@autox.team.net>
>
> *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] Jet-coating, wrap or do nothing to stainless
> headers?
>
>
>
> I had the DW header pipes on my 100 wrapped with heat tape for about two
> years, then took it off and went to a reflective shield. I noticed no
> deterioration of the pipes when I changed over to the shield and that was
> ten years ago.
>
>
>
> I don't believe that polishing is not the way to go as sometimes the
> process brings impurities to the surface and causes a lot of corrosion,
> esp. in SS. I have Jet-Hot coating or the like on the headers of all of my
> race cars and everything is intact and nice and shiny!
>
>
>
> Best--Michael Oritt
>
>
>
> On Sun, Nov 15, 2015 at 9:52 AM, Bob Spidell <bspidell@comcast.net> wrote:
>
> I'll add that, although I wrapped the mild steel downpipes on my BJ8 and
> have no problems--that I know of--I've become reluctant to recommend it.
> I've seen photographic evidence of pipes being severely eroded by wrapping;
> though it appears to be a hit-or-miss issue, and may be due, in part, to
> how they were wrapped and what they were wrapped with (I have to believe if
> it was a very common problem nobody would buy the wrap and companies would
> cease to sell it). I wouldn't expect ceramic coating to be a problem, at
> least if the pipes were coated both inside and outside (inside only might
> even be better).
>
>
>
> Here in the colonies we mostly have to use gas with 10% ethanol ('pure'
> gas is available at some stations, but it's relatively rare). On a warm
> day, if my engine is hot and shut down for less than a couple hours and
> restarted I'll get some stumbling until air flow has cooled everything off
> a bit. I can't say with absolute certainty that the gasahol is the
> problem, but I don't recall this ever happening before the new formulation
> became prevalent. I think ceramic coating the manifold might cure this
> problem.
>
>
>
> Bob
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> *From: *"Oudesluys" <coudesluijs@chello.nl>
> *To: *"healeys" <healeys@autox.team.net>
> *Sent: *Sunday, November 15, 2015 2:28:55 AM
> *Subject: *Re: [Healeys] Jet-coating, wrap or do nothing to stainless
> headers?
>
>
>
> Mirror polish them and leave them alone. Wrapping may lead to burning the
> metal away, coating possibly a similar story. By polishing you reduce the
> radiation of heat so the carbs should remain relatively cool. Anyway
> Webers/DellOrto's do not have the tendency to boil fuel. Also a car with an
> electric fuel pump does not normally have problems with fuel vapour lock.
> Kees Oudesluijs
>
>
>
>
> Op 15-11-2015 om 11:11 schreef Simon Lachlan:
>
> I have stainless headers going down into a big bore(?) exhaust.
>
> Opinions seem to vary as to the merits of wrapping, coating or doing
> nothing to them .
>
> I have Webers above them, but I suspect, in my ignorance, that these are
> maybe less prone to evaporation issues than SUs.
>
> What does the panel think?
>
> See attached for a well researched synopsis. (Not by me!)
>
> Simon
>
>
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:rgb(51,51,255)=
">Al--</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:rgb(51,51,255)"><br=
></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:rgb(51,51,255)">Jet-Hot&=
#39;s contact info is:</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:rgb=
(51,51,255)"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D""><font color=
=3D"#3333ff"><a href=3D"http://www.jet-hot.com/contact/";>http://www.jet-hot=
.com/contact/</a></font><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D""><=
font color=3D"#3333ff"><br></font></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=
=3D""><font color=3D"#3333ff">Best--Michael Oritt</font></div></div><div cl=
ass=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Tue, Nov 17, 2015 at =
2:11 PM, Al Fuller <span dir=3D"ltr"><<a href=3D"mailto:al@bighealey.org=
" target=3D"_blank">al@bighealey.org</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote c=
lass=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;=
padding-left:1ex"><div lang=3D"EN-US" link=3D"blue" vlink=3D"purple"><div><=
p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Cal=
ibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">Michael:=C2=A0 can you share with us w=
ho you use for the Jet-Hot coating?<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"Mso=
Normal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",san=
s-serif;color:#1f497d"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal=
"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-seri=
f;color:#1f497d">Thanks,<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><sp=
an style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;col=
or:#1f497d"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span sty=
le=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f=
497d">Al Fuller</span><span style=3D"color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p>=
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Ca=
libri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">al at bighealey dot org</span><span s=
tyle=3D"color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span =
style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:=
#1f497d">'65 BJ-8</span><span style=3D"color:black"><u></u><u></u></spa=
n></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&q=
uot;Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">'85 Rx-7</span><span style=
=3D"color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span styl=
e=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f4=
97d"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span style=
=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</spa=
n></b><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-=
serif"> Healeys [mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net"; t=
arget=3D"_blank">healeys-bounces@autox.team.net</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Mi=
chael Oritt<br><b>Sent:</b> Sunday, November 15, 2015 10:11 AM<br><b>To:</b=
> Bob Spidell <<a href=3D"mailto:bspidell@comcast.net"; target=3D"_blank"=
>bspidell@comcast.net</a>><br><b>Cc:</b> healeys <<a href=3D"mailto:h=
ealeys@autox.team.net" target=3D"_blank">healeys@autox.team.net</a>></sp=
an></p><div><div class=3D"h5"><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys] Jet-coating=
, wrap or do nothing to stainless headers?<u></u><u></u></div></div><p></p>=
<div><div class=3D"h5"><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p><div>=
<div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#3333ff">I had the DW head=
er pipes on my 100 wrapped with heat tape for about two years, then took it=
off and went to a reflective shield.=C2=A0 I noticed no deterioration of t=
he pipes when I changed over to the shield and that was ten years ago.<u></=
u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:=
#3333ff"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><=
span style=3D"color:#3333ff">I don't believe that polishing is not the =
way to go as sometimes the process brings impurities to the surface and cau=
ses a lot of corrosion, esp. in SS.=C2=A0 I have Jet-Hot coating or the lik=
e on the headers of all of my race cars and everything is intact and nice a=
nd shiny! =C2=A0<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">=
<span style=3D"color:#3333ff"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#3333ff">Best--Michael Oritt<u></u=
><u></u></span></p></div></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u>=
</u></p><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">On Sun, Nov 15, 2015 at 9:52 AM, Bob Sp=
idell <<a href=3D"mailto:bspidell@comcast.net"; target=3D"_blank">bspidel=
l@comcast.net</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></p><blockquote style=3D"border:n=
one;border-left:solid #cccccc 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4=
.8pt;margin-right:0in"><div><div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D=
"font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black">I'll add that, a=
lthough I wrapped the mild steel downpipes on my BJ8 and have no problems--=
that I know of--I've become reluctant to recommend it.=C2=A0 I've s=
een photographic evidence of pipes being severely eroded by wrapping; thoug=
h it appears to be a hit-or-miss issue, and may be due, in part, to how the=
y were wrapped and what they were wrapped with (I have to believe if it was=
a very common problem nobody would buy the wrap and companies would cease =
to sell it).=C2=A0 I wouldn't expect ceramic coating to be a problem, a=
t least if the pipes were coated both inside and outside (inside only might=
even be better).<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"=
><span style=3D"font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black"><u></=
u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"=
font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black">Here in the colonies =
we mostly have to use gas with 10% ethanol ('pure' gas is available=
at some stations, but it's relatively rare).=C2=A0 On a warm day, if m=
y engine is hot and shut down for less than a couple hours and restarted I&=
#39;ll get some stumbling until air flow has cooled everything off a bit.=
=C2=A0 I can't say with absolute certainty that the gasahol is the prob=
lem, but I don't recall this ever happening before the new formulation =
became prevalent.=C2=A0 I think ceramic coating the manifold might cure thi=
s problem.<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span =
style=3D"font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black"><u></u>=C2=
=A0<u></u></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-=
family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black">Bob<u></u><u></u></span></=
p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:"Arial&=
quot;,sans-serif;color:black"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p></div><div cla=
ss=3D"MsoNormal" align=3D"center" style=3D"text-align:center"><span style=
=3D"font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black"><hr size=3D"2" wi=
dth=3D"100%" align=3D"center"></span></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><=
span style=3D"font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black">Fro=
m: </span></b><span style=3D"font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;c=
olor:black">"Oudesluys" <<a href=3D"mailto:coudesluijs@chello.=
nl" target=3D"_blank">coudesluijs@chello.nl</a>><br><b>To: </b>"hea=
leys" <<a href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank">=
healeys@autox.team.net</a>><br><b>Sent: </b>Sunday, November 15, 2015 2:=
28:55 AM<br><b>Subject: </b>Re: [Healeys] Jet-coating, wrap or do nothing t=
o stainless headers?<u></u><u></u></span></p><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><s=
pan style=3D"font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black"><u><=
/u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D=
"font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black">Mirror polish th=
em and leave them alone. Wrapping may lead to burning the metal away, coati=
ng possibly a similar story. By polishing you reduce the radiation of heat =
so the carbs should remain relatively cool. Anyway Webers/DellOrto's do=
not have the tendency to boil fuel. Also a car with an electric fuel pump =
does not normally have problems with fuel vapour lock.<br>Kees Oudesluijs<b=
r><br><br><br><br>Op 15-11-2015 om 11:11 schreef Simon Lachlan:<u></u><u></=
u></span></p></div><blockquote style=3D"margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0p=
t"><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:black">I have stainless=
headers going down into a big bore(?) exhaust.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p =
class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:black">Opinions seem to vary as to=
the merits of wrapping, coating or doing nothing to them .<u></u><u></u></=
span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:black">I have Webers a=
bove them, but I suspect, in my ignorance, that these are maybe less prone =
to evaporation issues than SUs.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNorm=
al"><span style=3D"color:black">What does the panel think?<u></u><u></u></s=
pan></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:black">See attached for=
a well researched synopsis. (Not by me!)<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=
=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:black">Simon<u></u><u></u></span></p></=
div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:"Helvetica"=
,sans-serif;color:black"><br>\<u></u><u></u></span></p></blockquote><div><p=
class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:"Helvetica",sans-=
serif;color:black"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p></div></div><div><p class=
=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;colo=
r:black"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p></div></div></div><p class=3D"MsoNo=
rmal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt"><br>__________________________________=
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