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To: <s.hutchings@rogers.com>, "'Tom Trotter'" <ttrotter2@triad.rr.com>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Interesting comment from a dealer
From: "Bruce Steele" <healeybruce@roadrunner.com>
Date: Fri, 5 Feb 2016 10:36:58 -0800
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So I wonder what this dealer would consider an =
=E2=80=9Cimportant=E2=80=9D car?  A 2-seat tri-carb?  A factory modified =
Le Mans?  Anything with a prancing horse, trident, or charging bull =
badge?  It=E2=80=99s kind of insulting to anyone paying reasonably large =
sums of money for a classic/collectible car to be told it=E2=80=99s not =
an =E2=80=9Cimportant=E2=80=9D car=E2=80=A6=20

=20

Bruce Steele

Brea, CA

1960 BN7

=20

From: Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of =
s.hutchings@rogers.com
Sent: Friday, February 05, 2016 9:26 AM
To: Tom Trotter <ttrotter2@triad.rr.com>
Cc: healeys@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Interesting comment from a dealer

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The interesting thing to me is the "so what" attitude about plate =
switching.

Obviously when you're restoring a car you have to take the VIN tags off =
for blasting painting, etc.

However, the authorities (here in Canada anyway) take a very dim view of =
any VIN tag removal...it's a sort of "don't ask, don't tell " situation. =
So I'm surprised that a dealer would lightly say "oh well, we got the =
plates switched!"

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Stephen, with another unimportant BJ8

Sent from my iPad


On Feb 5, 2016, at 11:04 AM, Tom Trotter <ttrotter2@triad.rr.com =

Simply amazing, Steve. Thanks for all you do for the BJ8 community, =
Steve=E2=80=94even though we don=E2=80=99t have =
=E2=80=9Cimportant=E2=80=9D cars.

Regards,

Tom

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Sent: Friday, February 5, 2016 10:11 AM
Subject: [Healeys] Interesting comment from a dealer

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Thought you Healeyphiles might enjoy this.  This attitude might explain =
why there are so many BJ8s running around now that have lost their =
original identities and acquired new ones.  People need to pay special =
attention to the correct identity of a car when they are considering =
buying it.

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A BJ8 was recently advertised by LBI, Ltd. as HBJ8L/25366 -- a Phase 1 =
VIN.  However, both the VIN plate and the body plate are from a BJ7.

I inquired twice about the reason for the discrepancy, and this is the =
response.  Note the last sentence:

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Hi Steve,

   Yes, we noticed this as well and traced it back to a simple mistake. =
The tags to this car were put on another car and vice versa, everything =
has since been switched and corrected. We just need to take new photos. =
Minor issue, thankfully it's not an important car!=20

=20

Regards,
 <http://www.LBILimited.com> www.LBILimited.com

Next Generation Car Guys=20

=20

> Please answer this guy and need to get it resolved.=20

> -------- Original Message --------

> Subject: Current, Past or Offsite  Offerings Inquiry

=20


> Subject: [your-subject]

>=20

> Name: [your-name


> Message Body:

> Hello,=20

> I inquired about this car about a week ago, but have not received a =
response.  You advertise the VIN as HBJ8L25366, which is a Phase 1 BJ8 =
number, but the photo of the VIN plate shows it reads HBJ7L24221, and =
the body plate above it reads 3160 BJ7 60118.  Both of these numbers =
obviously belong to a BJ7, not a BJ8.  What is the explanation for these =
discrepancies?

>=20

> Thank you for a response.

>=20

> Vehicle inquiring about: 1964 Austin Healey 3000 MKIII

> Phone: 252-447-8812

=20

Steve Byers

HBJ8L/36666

BJ8 Registry

AHCA Delegate at Large

Havelock, NC =20

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vlink=3D"#954F72"><div class=3DWordSection1><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif'>So I =
wonder what this dealer would consider an =E2=80=9Cimportant=E2=80=9D =
car?=C2=A0 A 2-seat tri-carb?=C2=A0 A factory modified Le Mans? =
=C2=A0Anything with a prancing horse, trident, or charging bull badge? =
=C2=A0It=E2=80=99s kind of insulting to anyone paying reasonably large =
sums of money for a classic/collectible car to be told it=E2=80=99s not =
an =E2=80=9Cimportant=E2=80=9D car=E2=80=A6 <o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet =
MS",sans-serif'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet =
MS",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>Bruce Steele<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet =
MS",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>Brea, CA<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet =
MS",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>1960 BN7<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet =
MS",sans-serif'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><div><div =
style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in =
0in 0in'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b>From:</b> Healeys =
[mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net] <b>On Behalf Of =
</b>s.hutchings@rogers.com<br><b>Sent:</b> Friday, February 05, 2016 =
9:26 AM<br><b>To:</b> Tom Trotter =
&lt;ttrotter2@triad.rr.com&gt;<br><b>Cc:</b> =
healeys@autox.team.net<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys] Interesting =
comment from a dealer<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>The =
interesting thing to me is the &quot;so what&quot; attitude about plate =
switching.<span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div =
id=3DAppleMailSignature><p class=3DMsoNormal>Obviously when you're =
restoring a car you have to take the VIN tags off for blasting painting, =
etc.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div id=3DAppleMailSignature><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>However, the authorities (here in Canada anyway) take =
a very dim view of any VIN tag removal...it's a sort of &quot;don't ask, =
don't tell &quot; situation. So I'm surprised that a dealer would =
lightly say &quot;oh well, we got the plates =
switched!&quot;<o:p></o:p></p></div><div id=3DAppleMailSignature><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div =
id=3DAppleMailSignature><p class=3DMsoNormal>Stephen, with another =
unimportant BJ8<br><br>Sent from my iPad<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><br>On Feb 5, 2016, at =
11:04 AM, Tom Trotter &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:ttrotter2@triad.rr.com";>ttrotter2@triad.rr.com</a>&gt; =
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote =
style=3D'margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Simply amazing, Steve. Thanks for all you do for the =
BJ8 community, Steve=E2=80=94even though we don=E2=80=99t have =
=E2=80=9Cimportant=E2=80=9D cars.<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Regards,<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Tom<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Sent from =
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style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><br><b>From:=
 </b><a href=3D"mailto:sbyers@ec.rr.com";>BJ8Healeys</a><br><b>Sent: =
</b>Friday, February 5, 2016 10:11 AM<br><b>To: </b><a =
href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net";>healeys@autox.team.net</a><br><b>S=
ubject: </b>[Healeys] Interesting comment from a =
dealer<o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New =
Roman",serif'>&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#002060'>Thought you =
Healeyphiles might enjoy this.&nbsp; This attitude might explain why =
there are so many BJ8s running around now that have lost their original =
identities and acquired new ones.&nbsp; People need to pay special =
attention to the correct identity of a car when they are considering =
buying it.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Comic Sans =
MS";color:#002060'>&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-family:"Comic Sans =
MS";color:#002060'>A BJ8 was recently advertised by LBI, Ltd. as =
HBJ8L/25366 -- a Phase 1 VIN.&nbsp; However, both the VIN plate and the =
body plate are from a BJ7.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-family:"Comic Sans =
MS";color:#002060'>I inquired twice about the reason for the =
discrepancy, and this is the response.&nbsp; Note the last =
sentence:</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Comic Sans =
MS";color:#002060'>&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoPlainText>Hi Steve,<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoPlainText>&nbsp;&nbsp; Yes, we noticed this as well and =
traced it back to a simple mistake. The tags to this car were put on =
another car and vice versa, everything has since been switched and =
corrected. We just need to take new photos. <b>Minor issue, thankfully =
it's not an important car! </b><o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoPlainText>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoPlainText>Regards,<br><a =
href=3D"http://www.LBILimited.com";><span =
style=3D'color:windowtext;text-decoration:none'>www.LBILimited.com</span>=
</a><o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoPlainText>Next Generation Car Guys =
<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoPlainText>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoPlainText>&gt; Please answer this guy and need to get it =
resolved. <o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoPlainText>&gt; -------- Original =
Message --------<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoPlainText>&gt; Subject: =
Current, Past or Offsite&nbsp; Offerings Inquiry<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoPlainText>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoPlainText>&gt; =
From: Steve Byers &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:sbyers@ec.rr.com";><span =
style=3D'color:windowtext;text-decoration:none'>sbyers@ec.rr.com</span></=
a>&gt;<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoPlainText>&gt; Subject: =
[your-subject]<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoPlainText>&gt; =
<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoPlainText>&gt; Name: =
[your-name<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoPlainText>&gt; Email: <a =
href=3D"mailto:sbyers@ec.rr.com";><span =
style=3D'color:windowtext;text-decoration:none'>sbyers@ec.rr.com</span></=
a><o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoPlainText>&gt; Message =
Body:<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoPlainText>&gt; Hello, =
<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoPlainText>&gt; I inquired about this car =
about a week ago, but have not received a response.&nbsp; You advertise =
the VIN as HBJ8L25366, which is a Phase 1 BJ8 number, but the photo of =
the VIN plate shows it reads HBJ7L24221, and the body plate above it =
reads 3160 BJ7 60118.&nbsp; Both of these numbers obviously belong to a =
BJ7, not a BJ8.&nbsp; What is the explanation for these =
discrepancies?<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoPlainText>&gt; =
<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoPlainText>&gt; Thank you for a =
response.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoPlainText>&gt; <o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoPlainText>&gt; Vehicle inquiring about: 1964 Austin Healey =
3000 MKIII<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoPlainText>&gt; Phone: =
252-447-8812<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoPlainText>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#002060'>Steve =
Byers</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Comic Sans =
MS";color:#002060'>HBJ8L/36666</span><o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-family:"Comic Sans =
MS";color:#002060'>BJ8 Registry</span><o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-family:"Comic Sans =
MS";color:#002060'>AHCA Delegate at Large</span><o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-family:"Comic Sans =
MS";color:#002060'>Havelock, NC&nbsp; </span><o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-family:"Comic Sans =
MS";color:#002060'>&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p></div></blockquote><blockquote =
style=3D'margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
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