This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
--===============2776134911567193463==
boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0023_01D1EDD8.2FA6BB70"
This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
------=_NextPart_000_0023_01D1EDD8.2FA6BB70
charset="utf-8"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hello again Simon =E2=80=93 greetings from British Columbia, Canada!
Can=E2=80=99t wait to hear who wins the race between you and your nephew =
when he eventually gets his Healey over the water.
You=E2=80=99ve got it a bit wrong with the idler assembly: The oil seal =
is normally not visible =E2=80=93 it=E2=80=99s up in a recessed cavity =
inside the lower part of the idler body when all is assembled. Your =
photos are showing the lower part of the idler body itself =E2=80=93 =
give it a bit of a clean and you=E2=80=99ll find that it=E2=80=99s =
steel. The item below it that you have identified as the =
=E2=80=98bush=E2=80=99 is actually a dust cover keeping the huge pieces =
away from the seal itself. It=E2=80=99s made of some sort of foam =
rubber =E2=80=93 usually white. If memory serves, the same part is used =
on the handbrake shaft as a dust / hot air excluder to (theoretically) =
keep such things from the inside of the car.
The bush is illustration # 16 - P/N 1B6257 in my parts book - and serves =
to keep the idler shaft snug and working in the body. That way, the oil =
leaks out of the bottom where it should.
It=E2=80=99s worth noting - the oil seal is quite thin - most rebuilders =
use two of them stacked. There=E2=80=99s plenty of room in the idler =
body. This gets at least one seal lip onto a virgin part of the shaft.
If you had the whole works dismantled and on the bench, it would all be =
immediately obvious to you.
I fixed such a leak in situ in my tri-carb years ago by doing a sneaky =
drain, and refilling it with Penrite steering box lube - the stuff is =
purpose designed for these old beasts, and is quite thick - it =
doesn=E2=80=99t dare leak!
If that=E2=80=99s what you are trying to do, there are a couple of =
little tricks that will help.
Cheers ----
Earl Kagna
Victoria, B.C.
BJ8, BT7 tri-carb
From: Simon Lachlan=20
Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2016 11:31 AM
To: Healeys@autox.team.net=20
Subject: [Healeys] Steering idler bits
One for the experts........
1) I hope that I=E2=80=99m right in my belief that I=E2=80=99ve =
labelled the correct same parts in the three attached pics??? I ask =
because they certainly don=E2=80=99t look the same; ie if you go from =
the parts book diagram to the two photos, the rubber bush looks to be =
twice the size and the seal bears very little resemblance to that in the =
diagram.
2) Leaving aside that the whole area is covered in oil and filth =
=E2=80=93 the residue of a leak incurred while fixing the trafficator =
=E2=80=93 I think we can agree that the bush looks pretty well shot?
3) Am I right in thinking that the seal and bush function to keep =
oil in as well as dirt out? ie that its condition matters??
4) On the assumption that the bush needs replacing and that =
I=E2=80=99m going to do it ASAP, is the seal something that needs to be =
replaced as well or is it reusable?
5) Yes, I have a fair collection of manuals to which I always =
refer.......But, is this one of those jobs, simple at first glance, =
which is full of hidden snags? I=E2=80=99ve not seen the dreaded words =
=E2=80=9CTaking special tool=E2=80=9D but I can=E2=80=99t be surprised =
any more by the unexpected in Healey land. Is this a job requiring big =
sockets and long bars or is there a hidden snag or two?
Thanks,
Simon
------=_NextPart_000_0023_01D1EDD8.2FA6BB70
charset="utf-8"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
<HTML xmlns=3D"http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40"; xmlns:v =3D=20
"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:o =3D=20
"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:w =3D=20
"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:m =3D=20
"http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/2004/12/omml";><HEAD>
<META content=3D"text/html; charset=3Dus-ascii" =
http-equiv=3DContent-Type>
<META name=3DGenerator content=3D"Microsoft Word 12 (filtered medium)">
<STYLE><!--
/* Font Definitions */
@font-face
{font-family:"Cambria Math";
panose-1:2 4 5 3 5 4 6 3 2 4;}
@font-face
{font-family:Calibri;
panose-1:2 15 5 2 2 2 4 3 2 4;}
/* Style Definitions */
p.MsoNormal, li.MsoNormal, div.MsoNormal
{margin:0cm;
margin-bottom:.0001pt;
font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";}
a:link, span.MsoHyperlink
{mso-style-priority:99;
color:blue;
text-decoration:underline;}
a:visited, span.MsoHyperlinkFollowed
{mso-style-priority:99;
color:purple;
text-decoration:underline;}
p.MsoListParagraph, li.MsoListParagraph, div.MsoListParagraph
{mso-style-priority:34;
margin-top:0cm;
margin-right:0cm;
margin-bottom:0cm;
margin-left:36.0pt;
margin-bottom:.0001pt;
font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";}
span.EmailStyle17
{mso-style-type:personal-compose;
font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:windowtext;}
.MsoChpDefault
{mso-style-type:export-only;}
@page WordSection1
{size:612.0pt 792.0pt;
margin:72.0pt 72.0pt 72.0pt 72.0pt;}
div.WordSection1
{page:WordSection1;}
/* List Definitions */
@list l0
{mso-list-id:1841771022;
mso-list-type:hybrid;
mso-list-template-ids:701299268 134807569 134807577 134807579 134807567
=
134807577 134807579 134807567 134807577 134807579;}
@list l0:level1
{mso-level-text:"%1\)";
mso-level-tab-stop:none;
mso-level-number-position:left;
text-indent:-18.0pt;}
ol
{margin-bottom:0cm;}
ul
{margin-bottom:0cm;}
--></STYLE>
</HEAD>
<BODY lang=3DEN-GB dir=3Dltr link=3Dblue vLink=3Dpurple>
<DIV dir=3Dltr>
<DIV style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial'; COLOR: #141100">
<DIV>Hello again Simon =E2=80=93 greetings from British Columbia, =
Canada!</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Can=E2=80=99t wait to hear who wins the race between you and your =
nephew when he=20
eventually gets his Healey over the water.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>You=E2=80=99ve got it a bit wrong with the idler assembly: =
The oil seal is=20
normally not visible =E2=80=93 it=E2=80=99s up in a recessed cavity =
inside the lower part of the=20
idler body when all is assembled. Your photos are showing the =
lower part=20
of the idler body itself =E2=80=93 give it a bit of a clean and =
you=E2=80=99ll find that it=E2=80=99s=20
steel. The item below it that you have identified as the =
=E2=80=98bush=E2=80=99 is=20
actually a dust cover keeping the huge pieces away from the seal =
itself. =20
It=E2=80=99s made of some sort of foam rubber =E2=80=93 usually =
white. If memory serves,=20
the same part is used on the handbrake shaft as a dust / hot air =
excluder to=20
(theoretically) keep such things from the inside of the car.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>The bush is illustration # 16 - P/N 1B6257 in my parts book - and =
serves to=20
keep the idler shaft snug and working in the body. That way, the =
oil leaks=20
out of the bottom where it should.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>It=E2=80=99s worth noting - the oil seal is quite thin - most =
rebuilders use two of=20
them stacked. There=E2=80=99s plenty of room in the idler =
body. This gets at=20
least one seal lip onto a virgin part of the shaft.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>If you had the whole works dismantled and on the bench, it would =
all be=20
immediately obvious to you.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>I fixed such a leak in situ in my tri-carb years ago by doing a =
sneaky=20
drain, and refilling it with Penrite steering box lube - the stuff is =
purpose=20
designed for these old beasts, and is quite thick - it =
doesn=E2=80=99t dare=20
leak!</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>If that=E2=80=99s what you are trying to do, there are a couple of =
little tricks=20
that will help.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Cheers ----</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial'; COLOR: =
#141100">Earl=20
Kagna<BR>Victoria, B.C.<BR>BJ8, BT7 tri-carb</DIV>
<DIV=20
style=3D'FONT-SIZE: small; TEXT-DECORATION: none; FONT-FAMILY: =
"Calibri"; FONT-WEIGHT: normal; COLOR: #000000; FONT-STYLE: normal; =
DISPLAY: inline'>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt tahoma">
<DIV><FONT color=3D#141100 size=3D3 face=3DArial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV style=3D"BACKGROUND: #f5f5f5">
<DIV style=3D"font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A=20
title=3Dsimon.lachlan@homecall.co.uk=20
href=3D"mailto:simon.lachlan@homecall.co.uk";>Simon Lachlan</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, August 03, 2016 11:31 AM</DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=3DHealeys@autox.team.net=20
href=3D"mailto:Healeys@autox.team.net";>Healeys@autox.team.net</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Subject:</B> [Healeys] Steering idler bits</DIV></DIV></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV></DIV>
<DIV=20
style=3D'FONT-SIZE: small; TEXT-DECORATION: none; FONT-FAMILY: =
"Calibri"; FONT-WEIGHT: normal; COLOR: #000000; FONT-STYLE: normal; =
DISPLAY: inline'>
<DIV class=3DWordSection1>
<P class=3DMsoNormal>One for the experts........<o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=3DMsoListParagraph=20
style=3D"TEXT-INDENT: -18pt; mso-list: l0 level1 lfo1"><SPAN=20
style=3D"mso-list: ignore">1)<SPAN=20
style=3D'FONT: 7pt "Times New Roman"'> =20
</SPAN></SPAN>I hope that I=E2=80=99m right in my belief that =
I=E2=80=99ve labelled the correct=20
same parts in the three attached pics??? I ask because they certainly =
don=E2=80=99t look=20
the same; ie if you go from the parts book diagram to the two photos, =
the rubber=20
bush looks to be twice the size and the seal bears very little =
resemblance to=20
that in the diagram.<o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=3DMsoListParagraph=20
style=3D"TEXT-INDENT: -18pt; mso-list: l0 level1 lfo1"><SPAN=20
style=3D"mso-list: ignore">2)<SPAN=20
style=3D'FONT: 7pt "Times New Roman"'> =20
</SPAN></SPAN>Leaving aside that the whole area is covered in oil and =
filth =E2=80=93=20
the residue of a leak incurred while fixing the trafficator =E2=80=93 I =
think we can=20
agree that the bush looks pretty well shot?<o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=3DMsoListParagraph=20
style=3D"TEXT-INDENT: -18pt; mso-list: l0 level1 lfo1"><SPAN=20
style=3D"mso-list: ignore">3)<SPAN=20
style=3D'FONT: 7pt "Times New Roman"'> =20
</SPAN></SPAN>Am I right in thinking that the seal and bush function to =
keep oil=20
in as well as dirt out? ie that its condition matters??<o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=3DMsoListParagraph=20
style=3D"TEXT-INDENT: -18pt; mso-list: l0 level1 lfo1"><SPAN=20
style=3D"mso-list: ignore">4)<SPAN=20
style=3D'FONT: 7pt "Times New Roman"'> =20
</SPAN></SPAN>On the assumption that the bush needs replacing and that =
I=E2=80=99m going=20
to do it ASAP, is the seal something that needs to be replaced as well =
or is it=20
reusable?<o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=3DMsoListParagraph=20
style=3D"TEXT-INDENT: -18pt; mso-list: l0 level1 lfo1"><SPAN=20
style=3D"mso-list: ignore">5)<SPAN=20
style=3D'FONT: 7pt "Times New Roman"'> =20
</SPAN></SPAN>Yes, I have a fair collection of manuals to which I always =
refer.......But, is this one of those jobs, simple at first glance, =
which is=20
full of hidden snags? I=E2=80=99ve not seen the dreaded words =
=E2=80=9CTaking special tool=E2=80=9D but=20
I can=E2=80=99t be surprised any more by the unexpected in Healey land. =
Is this a job=20
requiring big sockets and long bars or is there a hidden snag or=20
two?<o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=3DMsoListParagraph>Thanks,<o:p></o:p></P>
<P=20
class=3DMsoListParagraph>Simon<o:p></o:p></P></DIV></DIV></DIV></DIV></BO=
DY></HTML>
------=_NextPart_000_0023_01D1EDD8.2FA6BB70--
--===============2776134911567193463==
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Content-Disposition: inline
_______________________________________________
Archive: http://www.team.net/archive
Healeys@autox.team.net
http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys
--===============2776134911567193463==--
|