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Re: [Healeys] Steering idler bits

To: Simon Lachlan <simon.lachlan@homecall.co.uk>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Steering idler bits
From: Alan Bromfield <bluehealey@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 4 Aug 2016 08:41:34 +0100
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Hi Simon.
Yes, you have the components correctly identified. The 'bush' you identify
is actually nothing more than a foam collar which wicks up any seepage from
the box.  The oil seal is a standard design lip seal pressed into the
bottom housing of the box.  I believe an uprated alternative with double
lips is available but don't have details.
Replacement is easy after removing the drop arm (29). That's the rub! The
drop arm is fitted to a tapered spline with a 'blind' spline acting as a
keyway to ensure alignment. Getting the arm off the box can be a bear even
with the box out of the car.  I resorted to a hydraulic press, a big hammer
and a dolly (each side of the drop arm) to get mine off.
Nothing complicated but not for the faint hearted. Factor it in as a winter
job and if the arm isn't off in half an hour then take the box out of the
car.
I'm in Dorset (near Shaftesbury). Let me know if you need a hand.

AlanB

Alan Bromfield


On 3 August 2016 at 19:31, Simon Lachlan <simon.lachlan@homecall.co.uk>
wrote:

> One for the experts........
>
> 1)      I hope that I=E2=80=99m right in my belief that I=E2=80=99ve labe=
lled the correct
> same parts in the three attached pics??? I ask because they certainly don=
=E2=80=99t
> look the same; ie if you go from the parts book diagram to the two photos=
,
> the rubber bush looks to be twice the size and the seal bears very little
> resemblance to that in the diagram.
>
> 2)      Leaving aside that the whole area is covered in oil and filth =E2=
=80=93
> the residue of a leak incurred while fixing the trafficator =E2=80=93 I t=
hink we
> can agree that the bush looks pretty well shot?
>
> 3)      Am I right in thinking that the seal and bush function to keep
> oil in as well as dirt out? ie that its condition matters??
>
> 4)      On the assumption that the bush needs replacing and that I=E2=80=
=99m
> going to do it ASAP, is the seal something that needs to be replaced as
> well or is it reusable?
>
> 5)      Yes, I have a fair collection of manuals to which I always
> refer.......But, is this one of those jobs, simple at first glance, which
> is full of hidden snags? I=E2=80=99ve not seen the dreaded words =E2=80=
=9CTaking special
> tool=E2=80=9D but I can=E2=80=99t be surprised any more by the unexpected=
 in Healey land.
> Is this a job requiring big sockets and long bars or is there a hidden sn=
ag
> or two?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Simon
>
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<div dir=3D"ltr">Hi Simon.<div>Yes, you have the components correctly ident=
ified. The &#39;bush&#39; you identify is actually nothing more than a foam=
 collar which wicks up any seepage from the box.=C2=A0 The oil seal is a st=
andard design lip seal pressed into the bottom housing of the box.=C2=A0 I =
believe an uprated alternative with double lips is available but don&#39;t =
have details.</div><div>Replacement is easy after removing the drop arm (29=
). That&#39;s the rub! The drop arm is fitted to a tapered spline with a &#=
39;blind&#39; spline acting as a keyway to ensure alignment. Getting the ar=
m off the box can be a bear even with the box out of the car.=C2=A0 I resor=
ted to a hydraulic press, a big hammer and a dolly (each side of the drop a=
rm) to get mine off.</div><div>Nothing complicated but not for the faint he=
arted. Factor it in as a winter job and if the arm isn&#39;t off in half an=
 hour then take the box out of the car.</div><div>I&#39;m in Dorset (near S=
haftesbury). Let me know if you need a hand.</div><div><br></div><div>AlanB=
=C2=A0</div></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br clear=3D"all"><div><div cl=
ass=3D"gmail_signature" data-smartmail=3D"gmail_signature"><div dir=3D"ltr"=
><div>Alan Bromfield</div><div><img src=3D"https://docs.google.com/uc?expor=
t=3Ddownload&amp;id=3D0B03pnd86m97tZWN6ZkhwMW5mbFU&amp;revid=3D0B03pnd86m97=
takFJZVdRS0hPWWdrdFVmMHVQNWIyN1ZacnVjPQ"><br></div></div></div></div>
<br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On 3 August 2016 at 19:31, Simon Lachlan <sp=
an dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:simon.lachlan@homecall.co.uk"; target=
=3D"_blank">simon.lachlan@homecall.co.uk</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquo=
te class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc so=
lid;padding-left:1ex"><div lang=3D"EN-GB" link=3D"blue" vlink=3D"purple"><d=
iv><p class=3D"MsoNormal">One for the experts........<u></u><u></u></p><p><=
u></u><span>1)<span style=3D"font:7.0pt &quot;Times New Roman&quot;">=C2=A0=
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 </span></span><u></u>I hope that I=E2=80=99m right=
 in my belief that I=E2=80=99ve labelled the correct same parts in the thre=
e attached pics??? I ask because they certainly don=E2=80=99t look the same=
; ie if you go from the parts book diagram to the two photos, the rubber bu=
sh looks to be twice the size and the seal bears very little resemblance to=
 that in the diagram.<u></u><u></u></p><p><u></u><span>2)<span style=3D"fon=
t:7.0pt &quot;Times New Roman&quot;">=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 </span>=
</span><u></u>Leaving aside that the whole area is covered in oil and filth=
 =E2=80=93 the residue of a leak incurred while fixing the trafficator =E2=
=80=93 I think we can agree that the bush looks pretty well shot?<u></u><u>=
</u></p><p><u></u><span>3)<span style=3D"font:7.0pt &quot;Times New Roman&q=
uot;">=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 </span></span><u></u>Am I right in thi=
nking that the seal and bush function to keep oil in as well as dirt out? i=
e that its condition matters??<u></u><u></u></p><p><u></u><span>4)<span sty=
le=3D"font:7.0pt &quot;Times New Roman&quot;">=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=
=A0 </span></span><u></u>On the assumption that the bush needs replacing an=
d that I=E2=80=99m going to do it ASAP, is the seal something that needs to=
 be replaced as well or is it reusable?<u></u><u></u></p><p><u></u><span>5)=
<span style=3D"font:7.0pt &quot;Times New Roman&quot;">=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=
=C2=A0=C2=A0 </span></span><u></u>Yes, I have a fair collection of manuals =
to which I always refer.......But, is this one of those jobs, simple at fir=
st glance, which is full of hidden snags? I=E2=80=99ve not seen the dreaded=
 words =E2=80=9CTaking special tool=E2=80=9D but I can=E2=80=99t be surpris=
ed any more by the unexpected in Healey land. Is this a job requiring big s=
ockets and long bars or is there a hidden snag or two?<u></u><u></u></p><p>=
Thanks,<u></u><u></u></p><p>Simon<u></u><u></u></p></div></div><br>________=
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