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Re: [Healeys] Fwd: Side shift trans covers

To: Mike MacLean <rrengineer.mike@att.net>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Fwd: Side shift trans covers
From: i erbs <eyera3000@gmail.com>
Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2018 16:07:26 -0700
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I used an inertube for the rubber heat barrier on the front cover piece
attached with brass spilt brads. I went to home inprovement store and got
various thicknesses of window insulation with sticky back to close the top
of the piece as it attaches to bulkhead. Most screws zre 10 by 32 thread,
but ant round head self tapping screw will do, or pre drill holes and use
sheet metal screws. Not sure what concour guidlines or judges say. Never
seen a fiberglass 100-4 trans cover.

Ira Erbs
Portland, OR
typos and artifacts are the fault of my phone

On Sun, Oct 14, 2018, 3:07 PM Michael MacLean <rrengineer.mike@att.net>
wrote:

> I have a fiberglass tunnel cover from BCS for my BN2.  Of course, the BN2
> is a side shift trans.  Getting the car as a rolling shell I have no idea
> how to assemble the front of the tunnel to the front bulkhead.  As it
> looks, the tunnel cover is too short to reach the front bulkhead if it is
> to also contact the sheet metal of the permanent rear tunnel cover betwee=
n
> the seats.  I have the sheet metal front tunnel cover that screws into th=
e
> floor and the front bulkhead, but the screws are not available from Moss.
> I suppose some generic sheet metal screws would work, but what size?  I c=
an
> get sheet rubber from someplace like Grainger's but I have no idea how it
> was fastened to the bulkhead cover.  It looks like there was a square str=
ip
> of insulation that glues to the top of the cover where it contacts the
> front bulkhead, but of course that is not available from Moss also.  Ther=
e
> are no seal kits for the trans tunnel cover for BN1 or BN2 from Moss.  Wh=
y
> is that?  I am at a loss how all this goes together.  What have you 4
> cylinder guys done to seal this area?  Does anyone have any detailed
> pictures of these parts separate and/or in place on a BN1/2?
> Mike MacLean
>
>
> On Friday, October 12, 2018 3:52 PM, Jim Wojcik <jvwojcik@comcast.net>
> wrote:
>
>
> Hi Tim. Not much help with your specific question as I did my BN7 tunnel
> work 25 years ago and no longer own the car. However, one thing I wish I
> would have done is to really re-engineer the way the tunnel and bulkhead
> pieces fit together, and made strong fasteners that could pull the seal
> tight and prevent the heat from flowing into the cockpit. If only ---   I
> think it would have been simple enough to do before the engine was in the
> car but I just didn=E2=80=99t remember and appreciate what a bodge it rea=
lly was as
> original.  If you do that and pull it up tight you may be able to better
> judge whether your shifter will function properly. Jim
>
> *From:* Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net] *On Behalf Of *Ti=
m
> Davis BN7
> *Sent:* Friday, October 12, 2018 11:14 AM
> *To:* Healey List <healeys@autox.team.net>
> *Subject:* [Healeys] Fwd: Side shift trans covers
>
> Trying again, since the original post I have rebuilt the rusted flanges o=
n
> both sections and they look new now. I have both uncarpeted sections set =
in
> place but with the front bellhousing section in place, where it seems to
> fit best, the hole for the shifter is not centered over the trans. See
> attached. Will this positioning work ? I can't move the main cover to the
> left much as it is over the drive shaft hump. Also does the front flange =
of
> the trans cover screw  onto the bellhousing cover? I believe cupped trim
> screws are used for the sides of the bellhsg cover but what is used for t=
he
> floor flanges, self tapping type? I have two snaps on each side of the ma=
n
> cover for the carpet, is there one or two on the drvshaft tunnel?
> I also posted this question awhile ago to another Healey forum (
> https://www.ahexp.com/phorum/read.php?3,205482 ) worded a little
> differently but have received no useful responses.
>
>
> Tim Davis BN7
>
> ----- Forwarded Message -----
> From: Tim Davis BN7 <tld6008@mchsi.com>
> To: Healey List <healeys@autox.team.net>
> Sent: Tue, 31 Jul 2018 17:58:15 -0400 (EDT)
> Subject: Side shift trans covers
>
> I am about to install my two covers  after first test fitting for a coupl=
e
> welding repairs. My front footwells are newly carpeted and the forward
> section is lapping over the carpet on the sides, IS This correct?
> When I try to fit that first piece alone where it would seem to be the
> Main cover is too far forward i.e small gap at the drive shaft tunnel. So=
 I
> am thinking I need to get the big one in place regarding the tunnel and t=
he
> access holes which will be pulling the front section back where it doesn'=
t
> look like it would like to be ideally.
> Does anyone have any photos of the two sheetmetal covers in place or bein=
g
> installed/removed? Or any other words of wisdom?
>
>
> Tim Davis BN7
>
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<div dir=3D"auto">I used an inertube for the rubber heat barrier on the fro=
nt cover piece attached with brass spilt brads. I went to home inprovement =
store and got various thicknesses of window insulation with sticky back to =
close the top of the piece as it attaches to bulkhead. Most screws zre 10 b=
y 32 thread, but ant round head self tapping screw will do, or pre drill ho=
les and use sheet metal screws. Not sure what concour guidlines or judges s=
ay. Never seen a fiberglass 100-4 trans cover.<br><br><div data-smartmail=
=3D"gmail_signature">Ira Erbs<br>Portland, OR<br>typos and artifacts are th=
e fault of my phone</div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"l=
tr">On Sun, Oct 14, 2018, 3:07 PM Michael MacLean &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:rre=
ngineer.mike@att.net">rrengineer.mike@att.net</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><bloc=
kquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #cc=
c solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><div style=3D"color:#000;background-color:#f=
ff;font-family:times new roman,new york,times,serif;font-size:16px"><div di=
r=3D"ltr" id=3D"m_8831389457215842396yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1539549890084_82971"=
><span id=3D"m_8831389457215842396yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1539549890084_82970">I =
have a fiberglass tunnel cover from BCS for my BN2.=C2=A0 Of course, the BN=
2 is a side shift trans.=C2=A0 Getting the car as a rolling shell I have no=
 idea how to assemble the front of the tunnel to the front bulkhead.=C2=A0 =
As it looks, the tunnel cover is too short to reach the front bulkhead if i=
t is to also contact the sheet metal of the permanent rear tunnel cover bet=
ween the seats.=C2=A0 I have the sheet metal front tunnel cover that screws=
 into the floor and the front bulkhead, but the screws are not available fr=
om Moss.=C2=A0 I suppose some generic sheet metal screws would work, but wh=
at size?=C2=A0 I can get sheet rubber from someplace like Grainger&#39;s bu=
t I have no idea how it was fastened to the bulkhead cover.=C2=A0 It looks =
like there was a square strip of insulation that glues to the top of the co=
ver where it contacts the front bulkhead, but of course that is not availab=
le from Moss also.=C2=A0 There are no seal kits for the trans tunnel cover =
for BN1 or BN2 from Moss.=C2=A0 Why is that?=C2=A0 I am at a loss how all t=
his goes together.=C2=A0 What have you 4 cylinder guys done to seal this ar=
ea?=C2=A0 Does anyone have any detailed pictures of these parts separate an=
d/or in place on a BN1/2?<br></span></div><div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"m_88313894=
57215842396yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1539549890084_104849"><span id=3D"m_8831389457=
215842396yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1539549890084_82970">Mike MacLean</span></div> <=
div class=3D"m_8831389457215842396qtdSeparateBR"><br><br></div><div class=
=3D"m_8831389457215842396yahoo_quoted" style=3D"display:block"> <div style=
=3D"font-family:times new roman,new york,times,serif;font-size:16px"> <div =
style=3D"font-family:HelveticaNeue,Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,Arial,Lucida Gr=
ande,sans-serif;font-size:16px"> <div dir=3D"ltr"><font size=3D"2" face=3D"=
Arial"> On Friday, October 12, 2018 3:52 PM, Jim Wojcik &lt;<a href=3D"mail=
to:jvwojcik@comcast.net" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">jvwojcik@comc=
ast.net</a>&gt; wrote:<br></font></div>  <br><br> <div class=3D"m_883138945=
7215842396y_msg_container"><div id=3D"m_8831389457215842396yiv1917991381"><=
div><div class=3D"m_8831389457215842396yiv1917991381WordSection1"><div clas=
s=3D"m_8831389457215842396yiv1917991381MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:=
11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1f497d">Hi Tim. No=
t much help with your specific question as I did my BN7 tunnel work 25 year=
s ago and no longer own the car. However, one thing I wish I would have don=
e is to really re-engineer the way the tunnel and bulkhead pieces fit toget=
her, and made strong fasteners that could pull the seal tight and prevent t=
he heat from flowing into the cockpit. If only ---=C2=A0=C2=A0 I think it w=
ould have been simple enough to do before the engine was in the car but I j=
ust didn=E2=80=99t remember and appreciate what a bodge it really was as or=
iginal.=C2=A0 If you do that and pull it up tight you may be able to better=
 judge whether your shifter will function properly. Jim</span></div><div cl=
ass=3D"m_8831389457215842396yiv1917991381MsoNormal"><a rel=3D"nofollow nore=
ferrer" name=3D"m_8831389457215842396__MailEndCompose"><span style=3D"font-=
size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1f497d"> =C2=
=A0</span></a></div><div><div style=3D"border:none;border-top:solid #e1e1e1=
 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in"><div class=3D"m_8831389457215842396yiv191=
7991381MsoNormal"><b><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Cali=
bri&quot;,sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-=
family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif"> Healeys [mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:h=
ealeys-bounces@autox.team.net" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">healeys=
-bounces@autox.team.net</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Tim Davis BN7<br><b>Sent:<=
/b> Friday, October 12, 2018 11:14 AM<br><b>To:</b> Healey List &lt;<a href=
=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">hea=
leys@autox.team.net</a>&gt;<br><b>Subject:</b> [Healeys] Fwd: Side shift tr=
ans covers</span></div></div></div><div class=3D"m_8831389457215842396yiv19=
17991381MsoNormal"> =C2=A0</div><div><div class=3D"m_8831389457215842396yiv=
1917991381MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:black">Trying again, since the or=
iginal post I have rebuilt the rusted flanges on both sections and they loo=
k new now. I have both uncarpeted sections set in place but with the front =
bellhousing section in place, where it seems to fit best, the hole for the =
shifter is not centered over the trans. See attached. Will this positioning=
 work ? I can&#39;t move the main cover to the left much as it is over the =
drive shaft hump. Also does the front flange of the trans cover screw=C2=A0=
 onto the bellhousing cover? I believe cupped trim screws are used for the =
sides of the bellhsg cover but what is used for the floor flanges, self tap=
ping type? I have two snaps on each side of the man cover for the carpet, i=
s there one or two on the drvshaft tunnel?</span></div></div><div><div clas=
s=3D"m_8831389457215842396yiv1917991381MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:blac=
k">I also posted this question awhile ago to another Healey forum (<a rel=
=3D"nofollow noreferrer" href=3D"https://www.ahexp.com/phorum/read.php?3,20=
5482" target=3D"_blank">https://www.ahexp.com/phorum/read.php?3,205482</a> =
) worded a little differently but have received no useful responses.</span>=
</div></div><div><div class=3D"m_8831389457215842396yiv1917991381MsoNormal"=
><span style=3D"color:black"> =C2=A0</span></div></div><div><div class=3D"m=
_8831389457215842396yiv1917991381MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:black"><br=
>Tim Davis BN7</span></div></div><div><div class=3D"m_8831389457215842396yi=
v1917991381MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:black"> =C2=A0</span></div></div=
><div><div class=3D"m_8831389457215842396yiv1917991381MsoNormal"><span styl=
e=3D"color:black">----- Forwarded Message -----<br>From: Tim Davis BN7 &lt;=
<a rel=3D"nofollow noreferrer" href=3D"mailto:tld6008@mchsi.com"; target=3D"=
_blank">tld6008@mchsi.com</a>&gt;<br>To: Healey List &lt;<a rel=3D"nofollow=
 noreferrer" href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank">heale=
ys@autox.team.net</a>&gt;<br>Sent: Tue, 31 Jul 2018 17:58:15 -0400 (EDT)<br=
>Subject: Side shift trans covers</span></div></div><div><div class=3D"m_88=
31389457215842396yiv1917991381MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:black"> =C2=
=A0</span></div></div><div><div class=3D"m_8831389457215842396yiv1917991381=
MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:black">I am about to install my two covers=
=C2=A0 after first test fitting for a couple welding repairs. My front foot=
wells are newly carpeted and the forward section is lapping over the carpet=
 on the sides, IS This correct?</span></div></div><div><div class=3D"m_8831=
389457215842396yiv1917991381MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:black">When I t=
ry to fit that first piece alone where it would seem to be the Main cover i=
s too far forward i.e small gap at the drive shaft tunnel. So I am thinking=
 I need to get the big one in place regarding the tunnel and the access hol=
es which will be pulling the front section back where it doesn&#39;t look l=
ike it would like to be ideally.</span></div></div><div><div class=3D"m_883=
1389457215842396yiv1917991381MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:black">Does an=
yone have any photos of the two sheetmetal covers in place or being install=
ed/removed? Or any other words of wisdom?</span></div></div><div><div class=
=3D"m_8831389457215842396yiv1917991381MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:black=
"> =C2=A0</span></div></div><div><div class=3D"m_8831389457215842396yiv1917=
991381MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:black"><br>Tim Davis BN7</span></div>=
</div><div><div class=3D"m_8831389457215842396yiv1917991381MsoNormal"><span=
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