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Re: [Healeys] Which Harness?

To: "Michael MacLean" <rrengineer.mike@att.net>, <healeydoc@gmail.com>, <michaelsalter@gmail.com>, "Ahealey Help" <healeys@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Which Harness?
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Michael=20

If all else fails check out John Simms web site for the electrical =
diagrams in full colour for the various models ( certainly has them for =
the later cars at least )
every standard wire is clearly labelled as to trace colour where it goes =
etc. and an A3 copy or larger if you can access one will confirm what =
each wire is connected
to and make life easy for you. Proved invaluable when I replaced the =
wiring harness during restoration of my BJ8

Good luck

Graeme  Molony


From: Michael MacLean=20
Sent: Friday, November 2, 2018 9:08 AM
To: healeydoc@gmail.com ; michaelsalter@gmail.com ; Ahealey Help=20
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Which Harness?

Thanks guys.  The Bugeye was easy since I had owned six of them prior to =
that restoration.  This is the first big Healey I have attempted.  =
Getting it as a bare shell has not helped in the re-installation of =
anything on this car.  With nothing to go by near me since Tom Rocke =
passed away I have no examples to look at.  I guess I just have to start =
labeling the individual wires as best I can. and start from there.

Mike MacLean



On Thursday, November 1, 2018 2:40 PM, "healeydoc@gmail.com" =
<healeydoc@gmail.com> wrote:




Looks like a BN2 harness to me.


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From: Michael MacLean=20
Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2018 11:18 AM
To: michaelsalter@gmail.com ; Ahealey Help=20
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Which Harness?

Here is a picture of the "offending" section of the harness.  Does look =
like a BN1 or BN2 harness to you?  Seems to be more wires than my BN2 =
wiring diagram calls for, or I could be misinterpreting the diagram. =20

Mike MacLean



On Thursday, November 1, 2018 10:43 AM, Michael Salter =
<michael.salter@gmail.com> wrote:




Hi Mike,
Pretty sure that the big difference will be in the wiring for the =
overdrive relays that are just above the driver's knees.
In that area for a BN1 there will be a group of 4 wires that go to those =
relays.
1 x Black
1 x Green
1 x Green with Black and Yellow
1 x Green with Black and White.

That group won't be there for the BN2 harness.


M




On Thu, Nov 1, 2018 at 8:52 AM Michael MacLean <rrengineer.mike@att.net> =
wrote:

       I have a wiring harness that was given to me by a restorer friend =
just before he passed away.  He told me it was a BN2 harness.  It is =
cloth with PVC wires.  The pictures I have of most restorations that =
clearly show the main harness against the firewall are cloth and braid =
covered wires.  I can see the color codes of the braided wires that =
align with some of the PVC wires of my harness, but I seem to have a few =
extra wires coming out of the harness where there should not be any.  =
How can I tell the difference between a BN1 and a BN2 main harness that =
is cloth and PVC.  There is also four smaller harnesses of which I am =
sure one or more will connect to the main harness somewhere.  A little =
bit more to deal with here than my Bugeye that I installed in 2000.
  Mike MacLean


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<DIV>If all else fails check out John Simms web site for the electrical =
diagrams=20
in full colour for the various models ( certainly has them for the later =
cars at=20
least )</DIV>
<DIV>every standard wire is clearly labelled as to trace colour where it =
goes=20
etc. and an A3 copy or larger if you can access one will confirm what =
each wire=20
is connected</DIV>
<DIV>to and make life easy for you. Proved invaluable when I replaced =
the wiring=20
harness during restoration of my BJ8</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Good luck</DIV>
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<DIV style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial'; COLOR: =
#000000">Graeme&nbsp;=20
Molony<BR></DIV>
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<DIV style=3D"font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A=20
title=3Drrengineer.mike@att.net>Michael MacLean</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Friday, November 2, 2018 9:08 AM</DIV>
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id=3Dyui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1541107417405_44919>Thanks guys.&nbsp; The Bugeye =
was easy=20
since I had owned six of them prior to that restoration.&nbsp; This is =
the first=20
big Healey I have attempted.&nbsp; Getting it as a bare shell has not =
helped in=20
the re-installation of anything on this car.&nbsp; With nothing to go by =
near me=20
since Tom Rocke passed away I have no examples to look at.&nbsp; I guess =
I just=20
have to start labeling the individual wires as best I can. and start =
from=20
there.<BR></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV dir=3Dltr><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>On Thursday, November 1, 2018 =
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"healeydoc@gmail.com" &lt;healeydoc@gmail.com&gt;=20
wrote:<BR></FONT></DIV><BR><BR>
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<DIV>Looks like a BN2 harness to me.</DIV>
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<DIV style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Century'; COLOR: =
#000000">David=20
Nock<BR clear=3Dnone>healeydoc@sbcglobal.net<BR clear=3Dnone>209 948 =
8767<BR=20
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<DIV><B>From:</B> <A title=3Drrengineer.mike@att.net shape=3Drect =
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<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, November 01, 2018 11:18 AM</DIV>
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<DIV><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Healeys] Which =
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id=3Dyiv1394492342yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1541095173842_16407>Here is a =
picture of the=20
"offending" section of the harness.&nbsp; Does look like a BN1 or BN2 =
harness to=20
you?&nbsp; Seems to be more wires than my BN2 wiring diagram calls for, =
or I=20
could be misinterpreting the diagram.&nbsp; <BR =
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<DIV dir=3Dltr><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>On Thursday, November 1, 2018 =
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Michael Salter &lt;michael.salter@gmail.com&gt; wrote:<BR=20
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Mike,</DIV>
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style=3D"FONT-SIZE: small; FONT-FAMILY: comic sans ms, =
sans-serif">Pretty sure=20
that the big difference will be in the wiring for the overdrive relays =
that are=20
just above the driver's knees.</DIV>
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style=3D"FONT-SIZE: small; FONT-FAMILY: comic sans ms, sans-serif">In =
that area=20
for a BN1 there will be a group of 4 wires that go to those =
relays.</DIV>
<DIV class=3Dyiv1394492342gmail_default=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: small; FONT-FAMILY: comic sans ms, sans-serif">1 x =
Black</DIV>
<DIV class=3Dyiv1394492342gmail_default=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: small; FONT-FAMILY: comic sans ms, sans-serif">1 x =
Green</DIV>
<DIV class=3Dyiv1394492342gmail_default=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: small; FONT-FAMILY: comic sans ms, sans-serif">1 x =
Green with=20
Black and Yellow</DIV>
<DIV class=3Dyiv1394492342gmail_default=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: small; FONT-FAMILY: comic sans ms, sans-serif">1 x =
Green with=20
Black and White.</DIV>
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sans-serif">&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV class=3Dyiv1394492342gmail_default=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: small; FONT-FAMILY: comic sans ms, sans-serif">That =
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