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Subject: Re: [Healeys] engine identification
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Date: Tue, 25 Dec 2018 05:29:30 -0500
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The "U" code applies to all of BMC cars, not just Healeys.  Some of =
those cars have a gearshift on the steering column, some on the floor.  =
"Center shift" as applied to the "U" means a floor shift, not the =
position of the gear lever on the floor.

=20

Steve Byers

HBJ8L/36666

BJ8 Registry

AHCA Delegate at Large

Havelock, NC =20

=20

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From: Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Bruce =
Steele
Sent: Tuesday, December 25, 2018 1:51 AM
To: 'J. Scott Morris'; 'mitch'; healeys@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Healeys] engine identification

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I=E2=80=99m perplexed by the references to the =E2=80=9CU=E2=80=9D in =
the engine number in the documents which Scott attached.  The first =
attachment states that 3000 Mk I commenced with engine number 29D-U-H101 =
and ended with 29D-U-H26212.  The second document states that =
=E2=80=9CU=E2=80=9D indicated a center shift gear box.  We know that all =
Mark I Healeys were side shift; the center shift was not introduced =
until near the end of the Mark II BN7/BT7 run in November, 1961 at =
engine number 29E/2246, chassis number BT7/15881 and BN7/16039, per =
Clausager=E2=80=99s book.  Hence, the 2 documents conflict and my =
confusion over the statement that the =E2=80=9CU=E2=80=9D refers to a =
center shift box. =20

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Clausager states: =E2=80=9CHowever, the engine prefix was later changed, =
possibly coinciding with the introduction of the six-port engine in =
1957.  These engines had the prefix 26D, followed by U on non-overdrive =
cars, and R (or RU) on overdrive cars, finishing with the letter H for =
High compression=E2=80=9D (Original Austin Healey, Clausager, 1990, pg. =
87).

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Case in point, my BN7, produced 26-28 September, 1960 is chassis number =
12656 and engine number 29D-U-H/22855 (my car was originally a non-OD =
car), verified by the BMIHT certificate.  The gearbox is a correct side =
shift unit.  This is in agreement with Clausager=E2=80=99s description.

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So, the assertion that U denotes center shift is quite confusing.  =
Anyone else able to weigh in?

=20

Bruce Steele

Brea, CA

1960 BN7

=20

From: Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of J. =
Scott Morris
Sent: Monday, December 24, 2018 8:18 AM
To: mitch <dayton21@comcast.net>; healeys@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Healeys] engine identification

=20

Hello Mitch and Seasons Greetings. =20

The attached files may help a little but the casting numbers are not =
related to sequential engine production.=20

--Scott Morris; Simcoe, Ontario, Canada           - Keep Smiling, Murphy =
Lives

=20

On Monday, December 24, 2018 7:39 AM, mitch <dayton21@comcast.net> =
wrote:

=20

Hello

=20

How do you ID an engine block/or head=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6that does not =
have an ID tag?

Do the engine block casting numbers mean anything?

=20

Mitchell

=20

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vlink=3Dpurple><div class=3DWordSection1><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#002060'>The =
&quot;U&quot; code applies to all of BMC cars, not just Healeys.=C2=A0 =
Some of those cars have a gearshift on the steering column, some on the =
floor.=C2=A0 &quot;Center shift&quot; as applied to the &quot;U&quot; =
means a floor shift, not the position of the gear lever on the =
floor.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans =
MS";color:#002060'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic =
Sans MS";color:#002060'>Steve Byers</span><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#00206=
0'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans =
MS";color:#002060'>HBJ8L/36666</span><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#00206=
0'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#002060'>BJ8 =
Registry</span><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#00206=
0'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans =
MS";color:#002060'>AHCA Delegate at Large</span><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#00206=
0'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans =
MS";color:#002060'>Havelock, NC&nbsp; </span><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#00206=
0'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#00206=
0'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans =
MS";color:#002060'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><div><div =
style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in =
0in 0in'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span>=
</b><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> =
Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net] <b>On Behalf Of =
</b>Bruce Steele<br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, December 25, 2018 1:51 =
AM<br><b>To:</b> 'J. Scott Morris'; 'mitch'; =
healeys@autox.team.net<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys] engine =
identification<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif"'>I=E2=80=99m perplexed =
by the references to the =E2=80=9CU=E2=80=9D in the engine number in the =
documents which Scott attached.&nbsp; The first attachment states that =
3000 Mk I commenced with engine number 29D-U-H101 and ended with =
29D-U-H26212.&nbsp; The second document states that =E2=80=9CU=E2=80=9D =
indicated a center shift gear box.&nbsp; We know that all Mark I Healeys =
were side shift; the center shift was not introduced until near the end =
of the Mark II BN7/BT7 run in November, 1961 at engine number 29E/2246, =
chassis number BT7/15881 and BN7/16039, per Clausager=E2=80=99s book. =
&nbsp;Hence, the 2 documents conflict and my confusion over the =
statement that the =E2=80=9CU=E2=80=9D refers to a center shift =
box.&nbsp; <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Trebuchet =
MS","sans-serif"'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif"'>Clausager states: =
=E2=80=9CHowever, the engine prefix was later changed, possibly =
coinciding with the introduction of the six-port engine in 1957.&nbsp; =
These engines had the prefix 26D, followed by U on non-overdrive cars, =
and R (or RU) on overdrive cars, finishing with the letter H for High =
compression=E2=80=9D (Original Austin Healey, Clausager, 1990, pg. =
87).<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Trebuchet =
MS","sans-serif"'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif"'>Case in point, my BN7, =
produced 26-28 September, 1960 is chassis number 12656 and engine number =
29D-U-H/22855 (my car was originally a non-OD car), verified by the =
BMIHT certificate.&nbsp; The gearbox is a correct side shift unit. =
&nbsp;This is in agreement with Clausager=E2=80=99s =
description.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Trebuchet =
MS","sans-serif"'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif"'>So, the assertion that =
U denotes center shift is quite confusing.&nbsp; Anyone else able to =
weigh in?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Trebuchet =
MS","sans-serif"'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-family:"Trebuchet =
MS","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Bruce Steele<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-family:"Trebuchet =
MS","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Brea, CA<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-family:"Trebuchet =
MS","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>1960 BN7<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-family:"Trebuchet =
MS","sans-serif"'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><div><div =
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0in 0in'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>From:</span=
></b><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> Healeys =
[mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net] <b>On Behalf Of </b>J. Scott =
Morris<br><b>Sent:</b> Monday, December 24, 2018 8:18 AM<br><b>To:</b> =
mitch &lt;dayton21@comcast.net&gt;; =
healeys@autox.team.net<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys] engine =
identification<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><div =
id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1545664733618_15725"><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'background:white'><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Garamond","serif";color:black'>Hello Mitch and =
Seasons Greetings.&nbsp; <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div =
id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1545664733618_15724"><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'background:white'><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Garamond","serif";color:black'>The attached files =
may help a little but the casting numbers are not related to sequential =
engine production.&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div =
id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1545664733618_15723"><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'background:white'><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Garamond","serif";color:black'>--Scott Morris; =
Simcoe, Ontario, =
Canada&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; - =
Keep Smiling, Murphy Lives<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt;background:white'><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Garamond","serif";color:black'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></s=
pan></p></div><div><div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'background:white'><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>O=
n Monday, December 24, 2018 7:39 AM, mitch &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:dayton21@comcast.net";>dayton21@comcast.net</a>&gt; =
wrote:</span><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></s=
pan></p></div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt;background:white'><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p>&nbsp;</o=
:p></span></p><div><div id=3Dyiv4990789953><div><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'background:white'><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'>Hello<o:p></o:=
p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'background:white'><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'>&nbsp;<o:p></o=
:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'background:white'><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'>How do you ID =
an engine block/or head=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6that does not have an ID =
tag?<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'background:white'><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'>Do the engine =
block casting numbers mean anything?<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'background:white'><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'>&nbsp;<o:p></o=
:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'background:white'><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'>Mitchell<o:p><=
/o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'background:white'><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'>&nbsp;<o:p></o=
:p></span></p></div></div></div></div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
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