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Re: [Healeys] LED Headlight Conversion advice

To: simon.lachlan@alexarevel.plus.com, 'Healey List' <healeys@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] LED Headlight Conversion advice
From: Mike Sinclair <phoenix722@comcast.net>
Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2019 18:17:24 -0800
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Whitworth.

On 2/26/2019 11:42 AM, simon.lachlan@alexarevel.plus.com wrote:
>
> Is that metric teaspoons?
>
> *From:*Healeys <healeys-bounces@autox.team.net> *On Behalf Of *Roger Grace
> *Sent:* 26 February 2019 00:39
> *To:* Ron Fine <ronfineesq@earthlink.net>
> *Cc:* AH Mail List <healeys@autox.team.net>
> *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] LED Headlight Conversion advice
>
>  mmmm... well you asked for it ... !!
>
> Moss gives H4 LED at 25 W per light
>
> Typical halogen H4 is around 55W
>
> Thus a net savings of 30 W per light.
>
> 1W = 1J per sec
>
> 1kWh is 3.6 mJ
>
> So extra energy used/saved is 0.03 kW per hour
>
> = 0.108 mJ per hour
>
> using 35mJ energy content per litre of gasoline
>
> ... mmm no comments about regular or hi octane please !
>
> this translates into 3.7ml = approx. 2.5 teaspoons per hour per light 
> saving
>
> So 5 teaspoons per hour net saving for both lights.
>
> Note this is just the electrical energy savings.
>
> So allowing 90% efficy for generator and say 30% for the IC engine 
> likely net saving is around 18.5 teaspoons or 23.1 ml per hour !!
>
> rg
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> *From: *"Ron Fine" <ronfineesq@earthlink.net 
> *To: *"Al Fuller" <alfuller194@gmail.com 
> *Sent: *Monday, February 25, 2019 9:47:47 AM
> *Subject: *Re: [Healeys] LED Headlight Conversion advice
>
> I am wondering what the energy savings would be between these LED 
> lights and the standard sealed beam lights I now use?
>
> Ron Fine
>
> *From:*Al Fuller
>
> *Sent:*Monday, February 25, 2019 5:08 AM
>
> *To:*AH Mail List
>
> *Subject:*Re: [Healeys] LED Headlight Conversion advice
>
> Any idea of who besides little British carry the kit?
>
> Al Fuller
>
> On Mon, Feb 25, 2019, 2:45 AM Michael MacLean <rrengineer.mike@att.net 
> wrote:
>
>     I bought the same pair of conversion LED headlights last week for
>     $76.63 on sale with Little British Car Co.  Sounds like the sale
>     is over.  Going to put them on my Bugeye.
>
>     Mike MacLean
>
>     Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
>     
> <https://go.onelink.me/107872968?pid=InProduct&c=Global_Internal_YGrowth_AndroidEmailSig__AndroidUsers&af_wl=ym&af_sub1=Internal&af_sub2=Global_YGrowth&af_sub3=EmailSignature>
>
>
>
>         On Sun, Feb 24, 2019 at 8:10 PM, Bob Haskell
>
>
>         Listers,
>
>         Just got the weekly email from Little British Car Company and
>         they're
>
>         selling a pair of semi-sealed 7" round headlight with H4 LED
>         bulbs that
>
>         will work with positive or negative ground for about $90 (P/N
>
>         171-LEDHL101). NFI.
>
>         Cheers,
>
>         Bob Haskell
>
>         Austin Healey 3000 MkI registrar
>
>         http://www.ciahc.org/registry_3000mk1.php
>
>         On 2/20/19 3:42 PM, bgdrab@eastlink.ca
>
>         > Since I posted that I had the led lights and loved them I
>         have had
>
>         > several enquiries asking me from whom and what kind I used.
>         To further
>
>         > clarify my post on LED headlights, I had some original Lucas
>         Tripod
>
>         > headlights in my car. They did not use the H4 bulb but a much
>         larger
>
>         > bulb with a much larger base. The set I got was from the UK
>         and included
>
>         > an adapter ring which allowed me to use the H$ style LED bulb
>         in my
>
>         > Tripod headlights.
>
>         >
>
>         > I unfortunately donâ??t remember the name of the company Iâ??d
>         got the
>
>         > lights from nor the exact price but I believe the all in
>         price including
>
>         > shipping was around $125.  Iâ??m going to dig through some
>         information
>
>         > that I have and try to locate the company name and the
>         headlight kit
>
>         > name. Iâ??ll post that info when (and if) I find it. I do have to
>
>         > reiterate â?? the difference is well worth the effort,
>         especially if you
>
>         > do a lot of night driving.
>
>         >
>
>         > It is also worth noting that these arenâ??t a simple conversion
>         from
>
>         > sealed beams as some thought. You must have the European
>         style head
>
>         > lights with a replaceable bulb.
>
>         >
>
>         > Brian Drab
>
>         >
>
>         > *From:*warthodson@aol.com <warthodson@aol.com
>
>         > *Sent:* February 19, 2019 8:26 AM
>
>
>         > *Subject:* [Healeys] LED Headlight Conversion advice
>
>         >
>
>         > There seems to be a big difference between the two options
>         (Litezupp &
>
>         > Moss) listed below.
>
>         >
>
>         > I am not familiar enough with each to understand the pros &
>         cons of
>
>         > each. Obviously, the Litzupp is a simple bulb replacement,
>         While the
>
>         > Moss product requites some wiring adaptions.
>
>         >
>
>         > The Litzupp appear to be screw in bases, not the type of base
>         used in
>
>         > non-sealed beam headlights. Do they offer just the
>         replacement bulb that
>
>         > would fit into an existing vintage non-sealed beam head lamp?
>
>         >
>
>         > Gary Hodson
>
>         >
>
>         > Litezupp Ind. LLC. Www.litezupp.com <http://Www.litezupp.com>
>         <http://Www.litezupp.com>
>
>         >
>
>         > Ira Erbs
>
>         > Portland, OR
>
>         > typos and artifacts are the fault of my phone
>
>         >
>
>         >   Op 19-2-2019 om 05:21 schreef Bob Spidell:
>
>         >
>
>         >       Either:
>
>         >       https://mossmotors.com/led-conversion-kits-for-7-h4-headlamps
>
>         >
>
>         >       (see option dropdown)
>
>         >
>
>         >
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    <p>Whitworth.<br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 2/26/2019 11:42 AM,
      <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" 
href="mailto:simon.lachlan@alexarevel.plus.com";>simon.lachlan@alexarevel.plus.com</a>
 wrote:<br>
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        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Is
            that metric teaspoons?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span 
style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span
                lang="EN-US"> Healeys
                <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" 
href="mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net";>&lt;healeys-bounces@autox.team.net&gt;</a>
 <b>On Behalf Of
                </b>Roger Grace<br>
                <b>Sent:</b> 26 February 2019 00:39<br>
                <b>To:</b> Ron Fine <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" 
href="mailto:ronfineesq@earthlink.net";>&lt;ronfineesq@earthlink.net&gt;</a><br>
                <b>Cc:</b> AH Mail List <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" 
href="mailto:healeys@autox.team.net";>&lt;healeys@autox.team.net&gt;</a><br>
                <b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys] LED Headlight Conversion
                advice<o:p></o:p></span></p>
          </div>
        </div>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
        <div>
          <div>
            <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:black"> mmmm...
                well you asked for it ... !!<o:p></o:p></span></p>
          </div>
          <div>
            <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
          </div>
          <div>
            <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">Moss
                gives H4 LED at 25 W per light<o:p></o:p></span></p>
          </div>
          <div>
            <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">Typical
                halogen H4 is around 55W <o:p></o:p></span></p>
          </div>
          <div>
            <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">Thus
                a net savings of 30 W per light.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
          </div>
          <div>
            <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">1W
                = 1J per sec<o:p></o:p></span></p>
          </div>
          <div>
            <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">1kWh
                is 3.6 mJ<o:p></o:p></span></p>
          </div>
          <div>
            <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">So
                extra energy used/saved is 0.03 kW per hour 
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
          </div>
          <div>
            <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">=
                0.108 mJ per hour<o:p></o:p></span></p>
          </div>
          <div>
            <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">using
                35mJ energy content per litre of gasoline <o:p></o:p></span></p>
          </div>
          <div>
            <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">...
                mmm no comments about regular or hi octane please 
!<o:p></o:p></span></p>
          </div>
          <div>
            <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">this
                translates into 3.7ml = approx. 2.5 teaspoons per hour
                per light saving<o:p></o:p></span></p>
          </div>
          <div>
            <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
          </div>
          <div>
            <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">So
                5 teaspoons per hour net saving for both 
lights.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
          </div>
          <div>
            <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">Note
                this is just the electrical energy 
savings.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
          </div>
          <div>
            <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
          </div>
          <div>
            <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">So
                allowing 90% efficy for generator and say 30% for the IC
                engine likely net saving is around 18.5 teaspoons or
                23.1 ml per hour !!<o:p></o:p></span></p>
          </div>
          <div>
            <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
          </div>
          <div>
            <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">rg<o:p></o:p></span></p>
          </div>
          <div>
            <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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          <div>
            <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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          <div>
            <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">From:
                </span></b><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">"Ron
                Fine" &lt;<a href="mailto:ronfineesq@earthlink.net";
                  moz-do-not-send="true">ronfineesq@earthlink.net</a>&gt;<br>
                <b>To: </b>"Al Fuller" &lt;<a
                  href="mailto:alfuller194@gmail.com";
                  moz-do-not-send="true">alfuller194@gmail.com</a>&gt;,
                "AH Mail List" &lt;<a
                  href="mailto:healeys@autox.team.net";
                  moz-do-not-send="true">healeys@autox.team.net</a>&gt;<br>
                <b>Sent: </b>Monday, February 25, 2019 9:47:47 AM<br>
                <b>Subject: </b>Re: [Healeys] LED Headlight Conversion
                advice<o:p></o:p></span></p>
          </div>
          <div>
            <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
          </div>
          <div>
            <div>
              <div>
                <div>
                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">I
                      am wondering what the energy savings would be
                      between these LED lights and the standard sealed
                      beam lights I now use?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
                </div>
                <div>
                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:black"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
                </div>
                <div>
                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">Ron
                      Fine<o:p></o:p></span></p>
                </div>
                <div>
                  <div>
                    <div>
                      <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,sans-serif;color:black"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
                    </div>
                    <div>
                      <div>
                        <p class="MsoNormal"
                          style="background:whitesmoke"><b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">
                            Al Fuller<o:p></o:p></span></p>
                      </div>
                      <div>
                        <p class="MsoNormal"
                          style="background:whitesmoke"><b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">Sent:</span></b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">
                            Monday, February 25, 2019 5:08 
AM<o:p></o:p></span></p>
                      </div>
                      <div>
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                          style="background:whitesmoke"><b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">To:</span></b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">
                            AH Mail List<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                        <p class="MsoNormal"
                          style="background:whitesmoke"><b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">Subject:</span></b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">
                            Re: [Healeys] LED Headlight Conversion
                            advice<o:p></o:p></span></p>
                      </div>
                    </div>
                  </div>
                  <div>
                    <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                        
style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
                  </div>
                </div>
                <div>
                  <div>
                    <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span
                        style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">Any idea of
                        who besides little British carry the 
kit?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
                    <div>
                      <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                          style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">Al 
Fuller<o:p></o:p></span></p>
                    </div>
                  </div>
                  <div>
                    <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                        
style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
                  </div>
                  <div>
                    <div>
                      <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                          style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">On Mon,
                          Feb 25, 2019, 2:45 AM Michael MacLean
                          &lt;<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" 
href="mailto:rrengineer.mike@att.net";>rrengineer.mike@att.net</a> 
wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
                    </div>
                    <blockquote style="border:none;border-left:solid
                      #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm
                      6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0cm">
                      <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                          style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">I bought
                          the same pair of conversion LED headlights
                          last week for $76.63 on sale with Little
                          British Car Co.  Sounds like the sale is
                          over.  Going to put them on my 
Bugeye.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                        <p class="MsoNormal"
                          style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span
                            style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">Mike
                            MacLean<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                              style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black"><a
href="https://go.onelink.me/107872968?pid=InProduct&amp;c=Global_Internal_YGrowth_AndroidEmailSig__AndroidUsers&amp;af_wl=ym&amp;af_sub1=Internal&amp;af_sub2=Global_YGrowth&amp;af_sub3=EmailSignature";
                                target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">Sent
                                from Yahoo Mail on 
Android</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                            style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black"><br>
                            <br>
                            <o:p></o:p></span></p>
                        <blockquote
                          
style="margin-left:0cm;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:15.0pt">
                          <div>
                            <div>
                              <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:#6D00F6">On
                                  Sun, Feb 24, 2019 at 8:10 PM, Bob
                                  Haskell<o:p></o:p></span></p>
                            </div>
                            <div>
                              <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:#6D00F6">&lt;<a
href="mailto:rchaskell@earthlink.net"; 
moz-do-not-send="true">rchaskell@earthlink.net</a>&gt;
                                  wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
                            </div>
                          </div>
                          <div style="border:none;border-left:solid
                            #6D00F6 1.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm
                            15.0pt;margin-top:7.5pt">
                            <div>
                              <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                                  
style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">Listers,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
                            </div>
                            <div>
                              <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                                  
style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
                            </div>
                            <div>
                              <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                                  style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">Just
                                  got the weekly email from Little
                                  British Car Company and they're 
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
                            </div>
                            <div>
                              <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                                  style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">selling
                                  a pair of semi-sealed 7" round
                                  headlight with H4 LED bulbs that 
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
                            </div>
                            <div>
                              <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                                  style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">will
                                  work with positive or negative ground
                                  for about $90 (P/N <o:p></o:p></span></p>
                            </div>
                            <div>
                              <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                                  
style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">171-LEDHL101). 
                                  NFI.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
                            </div>
                            <div>
                              <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                                  
style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
                            </div>
                            <div>
                              <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                                  
style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">Cheers,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
                            </div>
                            <div>
                              <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                                  
style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
                            </div>
                            <div>
                              <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                                  style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">Bob
                                  Haskell<o:p></o:p></span></p>
                            </div>
                            <div>
                              <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                                  style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">Austin
                                  Healey 3000 MkI 
registrar<o:p></o:p></span></p>
                            </div>
                            <div>
                              <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                                  style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black"><a
href="http://www.ciahc.org/registry_3000mk1.php"; target="_blank"
                                    
moz-do-not-send="true">http://www.ciahc.org/registry_3000mk1.php</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
                            </div>
                            <div>
                              <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                                  
style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
                            </div>
                            <div>
                              <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                                  style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">On
                                  2/20/19 3:42 PM, <a
                                    href="mailto:bgdrab@eastlink.ca";
                                    
moz-do-not-send="true">bgdrab@eastlink.ca</a>
                                  wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
                            </div>
                            <div>
                              <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                                  style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">&gt;
                                  Since I posted that I had the led
                                  lights and loved them I have had 
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
                            </div>
                            <div>
                              <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                                  style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">&gt;
                                  several enquiries asking me from whom
                                  and what kind I used. To further 
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
                            </div>
                            <div>
                              <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                                  style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">&gt;
                                  clarify my post on LED headlights, I
                                  had some original Lucas Tripod 
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
                            </div>
                            <div>
                              <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                                  style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">&gt;
                                  headlights in my car. They did not use
                                  the H4 bulb but a much larger 
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
                            </div>
                            <div>
                              <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                                  style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">&gt;
                                  bulb with a much larger base. The set
                                  I got was from the UK and included 
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
                            </div>
                            <div>
                              <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                                  style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">&gt;
                                  an adapter ring which allowed me to
                                  use the H$ style LED bulb in my 
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
                            </div>
                            <div>
                              <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                                  style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">&gt;
                                  Tripod headlights.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
                            </div>
                            <div>
                              <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                                  style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">&gt;
                                  <o:p></o:p></span></p>
                            </div>
                            <div>
                              <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                                  style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">&gt;
                                  I unfortunately donâ??t remember the
                                  name of the company Iâ??d got the 
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
                            </div>
                            <div>
                              <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                                  style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">&gt;
                                  lights from nor the exact price but I
                                  believe the all in price including 
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
                            </div>
                            <div>
                              <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                                  style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">&gt;
                                  shipping was around $125.  Iâ??m going
                                  to dig through some information 
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
                            </div>
                            <div>
                              <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                                  style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">&gt;
                                  that I have and try to locate the
                                  company name and the headlight kit 
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
                            </div>
                            <div>
                              <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                                  style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">&gt;
                                  name. Iâ??ll post that info when (and
                                  if) I find it. I do have to 
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
                            </div>
                            <div>
                              <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                                  style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">&gt;
                                  reiterate â?? the difference is well
                                  worth the effort, especially if you 
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
                            </div>
                            <div>
                              <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                                  style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">&gt;
                                  do a lot of night 
driving.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
                            </div>
                            <div>
                              <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                                  style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">&gt;
                                  <o:p></o:p></span></p>
                            </div>
                            <div>
                              <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                                  style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">&gt;
                                  It is also worth noting that these
                                  arenâ??t a simple conversion from 
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
                            </div>
                            <div>
                              <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                                  style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">&gt;
                                  sealed beams as some thought. You must
                                  have the European style head 
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
                            </div>
                            <div>
                              <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                                  style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">&gt;
                                  lights with a replaceable 
bulb.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
                            </div>
                            <div>
                              <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                                  style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">&gt;
                                  <o:p></o:p></span></p>
                            </div>
                            <div>
                              <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                                  style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">&gt;
                                  Brian Drab<o:p></o:p></span></p>
                            </div>
                            <div>
                              <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                                  style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">&gt;
                                  <o:p></o:p></span></p>
                            </div>
                            <div>
                              <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                                  style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">&gt;
                                  *From:*warthodson@aol.com &lt;<a
                                    href="mailto:warthodson@aol.com";
                                    
moz-do-not-send="true">warthodson@aol.com</a>&gt;<o:p></o:p></span></p>
                            </div>
                            <div>
                              <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                                  style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">&gt;
                                  *Sent:* February 19, 2019 8:26 
AM<o:p></o:p></span></p>
                            </div>
                            <div>
                              <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                                  style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">&gt;
                                  *To:* <a
                                    href="mailto:healeys@autox.team.net";
                                    
moz-do-not-send="true">healeys@autox.team.net</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
                            </div>
                            <div>
                              <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                                  style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">&gt;
                                  *Subject:* [Healeys] LED Headlight
                                  Conversion advice<o:p></o:p></span></p>
                            </div>
                            <div>
                              <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                                  style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">&gt;
                                  <o:p></o:p></span></p>
                            </div>
                            <div>
                              <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                                  style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">&gt;
                                  There seems to be a big difference
                                  between the two options (Litezupp
                                  &amp; <o:p></o:p></span></p>
                            </div>
                            <div>
                              <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                                  style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">&gt;
                                  Moss) listed below.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
                            </div>
                            <div>
                              <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                                  style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">&gt;
                                  <o:p></o:p></span></p>
                            </div>
                            <div>
                              <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                                  style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">&gt;
                                  I am not familiar enough with each to
                                  understand the pros &amp; cons of 
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
                            </div>
                            <div>
                              <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                                  style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">&gt;
                                  each. Obviously, the Litzupp is a
                                  simple bulb replacement, While the 
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
                            </div>
                            <div>
                              <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                                  style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">&gt;
                                  Moss product requites some wiring
                                  adaptions.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
                            </div>
                            <div>
                              <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                                  style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">&gt;
                                  <o:p></o:p></span></p>
                            </div>
                            <div>
                              <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                                  style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">&gt;
                                  The Litzupp appear to be screw in
                                  bases, not the type of base used in 
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
                            </div>
                            <div>
                              <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                                  style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">&gt;
                                  non-sealed beam headlights. Do they
                                  offer just the replacement bulb that 
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
                            </div>
                            <div>
                              <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                                  style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">&gt;
                                  would fit into an existing vintage
                                  non-sealed beam head 
lamp?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
                            </div>
                            <div>
                              <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                                  style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">&gt;
                                  <o:p></o:p></span></p>
                            </div>
                            <div>
                              <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                                  style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">&gt;
                                  Gary Hodson<o:p></o:p></span></p>
                            </div>
                            <div>
                              <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                                  style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">&gt;
                                  <o:p></o:p></span></p>
                            </div>
                            <div>
                              <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                                  style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">&gt;
                                  Litezupp Ind. LLC. <a
                                    href="http://Www.litezupp.com";
                                    target="_blank"
                                    moz-do-not-send="true">Www.litezupp.com</a>
                                  &lt;<a href="http://Www.litezupp.com";
                                    target="_blank"
                                    
moz-do-not-send="true">http://Www.litezupp.com</a>&gt;<o:p></o:p></span></p>
                            </div>
                            <div>
                              <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                                  style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">&gt;
                                  <o:p></o:p></span></p>
                            </div>
                            <div>
                              <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                                  style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">&gt;
                                  Ira Erbs<o:p></o:p></span></p>
                            </div>
                            <div>
                              <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                                  style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">&gt;
                                  Portland, OR<o:p></o:p></span></p>
                            </div>
                            <div>
                              <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                                  style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">&gt;
                                  typos and artifacts are the fault of
                                  my phone<o:p></o:p></span></p>
                            </div>
                            <div>
                              <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                                  style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">&gt;
                                  <o:p></o:p></span></p>
                            </div>
                            <div>
                              <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                                  
style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">&gt;   
                                  Op 19-2-2019 om 05:21 schreef Bob
                                  Spidell:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
                            </div>
                            <div>
                              <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                                  style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">&gt;
                                  <o:p></o:p></span></p>
                            </div>
                            <div>
                              <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                                  
style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">&gt;       
                                  Either:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
                            </div>
                            <div>
                              <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                                  
style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">&gt;       
                                  <a
                                    
href="https://mossmotors.com/led-conversion-kits-for-7-h4-headlamps";
                                    target="_blank"
                                    
moz-do-not-send="true">https://mossmotors.com/led-conversion-kits-for-7-h4-headlamps</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
                            </div>
                            <div>
                              <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                                  style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">&gt;
                                  <o:p></o:p></span></p>
                            </div>
                            <div>
                              <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                                  
style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">&gt;       
                                  (see option dropdown)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
                            </div>
                            <div>
                              <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                                  style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">&gt;
                                  <o:p></o:p></span></p>
                            </div>
                            <div>
                              <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                                  style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">&gt;
                                  <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                                  style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">&gt;
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