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To: Austin Healey <healeys@autox.team.net>
Subject: [Healeys] Car dies suddenly
From: Michael Oritt <michael.oritt@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2019 13:45:44 -0400
Delivered-to: mharc@autox.team.net
Delivered-to: healeys@autox.team.net
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Yesterday morning I went out for a drive and after about five miles the car
suddenly died. There was no rough running, sputtering or missing leading up
to it=E2=80=94the car simply died. I coasted to the side of the road and af=
ter
about 30 seconds since the key was still on I pushed the start button. To
my surprise the car started immediately, revved freely and idled smoothly.
A bit perplexed I decided to drive on to see what would happen now that I
was paying close attention. The car accelerated smoothly and ran fine for
about 1/2 mile and then it died again in the same manner as earlier. I shut
off the key, popped the hood and examined the ignition system. Everything
seemed fine=E2=80=94all spark plug leads were firmly in place as was the le=
ad from
the coil to the distributor. The power wires to the coil were tight and the
harness/connector to the distributor (see below) seemed fine.


After scratching my head for a couple of minutes I got in the car, turned
on the ignition and pushed the start button. Again, the car started right
up and ran normally. With fingers crossed I headed for my shop/garage,
about ten miles away and got there without any further event. Though the
problem did not seem to be fuel related I decided to verify that this was
not a fuel delivery issue. I have a double-headed SU fuel pump wired to a
switch mounted just behind the driver=E2=80=99s seat which allows me to swi=
tch
between pumps as well as turn the fuel pump off. While I was running the
car at highway speeds it ran perfectly on either pump and when I selected
the =E2=80=9Coff=E2=80=9D position it slowly lost power as I expected it to=
=E2=80=94but in no way
like it had suddenly twice died 15 or so minutes earlier. This indicated I
was not dealing with a fuel issue but rather something related either to
the ignition system or to the primary wires that run to it.


This morning I dove a bit deeper to try and diagnose the problem. The car
has a Mallory Unilite ignition system tied to an MSD coil which has been in
place and performed faultlessly for a number of years. I removed the
distributor cap and everything appears to be okay, at least visually. The
interior of the distributor was clean and dry as was the cap, leads, carbon
contact, optical reader, etc. Mallory specifies the use of a ballast
resistor in the lead from the power source to the coil and with the engine
fast-idling I tested 12.5 VDC to the resistor and about 5.5-6 VDC out of it
and at the positive coil terminal.


I have a large low-oil pressure light that is mounted in the dash in place
of the original overdrive switch. It is wired from the ignition switch
through a 10 psi normally-closed switch mounted in the oil pressure gauge
sender line and then to the light. I point this out because both times when
the engine shut down yesterday the light immediately came on, from which I
conclude that the ignition switch itself is not the source of the problem.
And though I did not remove the ignition key switch the wires to and from
it seem tight and intact.


So my question is: What do I do? I hate to throw parts at it without
finding something that appears to be defective but I don=E2=80=99t know whe=
re to
start any further tests, etc. I also don=E2=80=99t want to simply wait for =
the
issue to happen again. BTW over the weekend I drove about 150 miles with no
issues whatever. Beyond installing four new plugs last week I have not
performed any work related to the ignition system. All
suggestions/questions welcome=E2=80=A6.

Best--Michael Oritt, BN1

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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:#3333ff"><span=
 style=3D"color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:Verdana,Arial,Tahoma,Calibri,Gene=
va,sans-serif;font-size:13px;background-color:rgb(250,250,250)">Yesterday m=
orning I went out for a drive and after about five miles the car suddenly d=
ied. There was no rough running, sputtering or missing leading up to it=E2=
=80=94the car simply died. I coasted to the side of the road and after abou=
t 30 seconds since the key was still on I pushed the start button. To my su=
rprise the car started immediately, revved freely and idled smoothly. A bit=
 perplexed I decided to drive on to see what would happen now that I was pa=
ying close attention. The car accelerated smoothly and ran fine for about 1=
/2 mile and then it died again in the same manner as earlier. I shut off th=
e key, popped the hood and examined the ignition system. Everything seemed =
fine=E2=80=94all spark plug leads were firmly in place as was the lead from=
 the coil to the distributor. The power wires to the coil were tight and th=
e harness/connector to the distributor (see below) seemed fine.</span><br s=
tyle=3D"color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:Verdana,Arial,Tahoma,Calibri,Geneva=
,sans-serif;font-size:13px;background-color:rgb(250,250,250)"><br style=3D"=
color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:Verdana,Arial,Tahoma,Calibri,Geneva,sans-se=
rif;font-size:13px;background-color:rgb(250,250,250)"><br style=3D"color:rg=
b(51,51,51);font-family:Verdana,Arial,Tahoma,Calibri,Geneva,sans-serif;font=
-size:13px;background-color:rgb(250,250,250)"><span style=3D"color:rgb(51,5=
1,51);font-family:Verdana,Arial,Tahoma,Calibri,Geneva,sans-serif;font-size:=
13px;background-color:rgb(250,250,250)">After scratching my head for a coup=
le of minutes I got in the car, turned on the ignition and pushed the start=
 button. Again, the car started right up and ran normally. With fingers cro=
ssed I headed for my shop/garage, about ten miles away and got there withou=
t any further event. Though the problem did not seem to be fuel related I d=
ecided to verify that this was not a fuel delivery issue. I have a double-h=
eaded SU fuel pump wired to a switch mounted just behind the driver=E2=80=
=99s seat which allows me to switch between pumps as well as turn the fuel =
pump off. While I was running the car at highway speeds it ran perfectly on=
 either pump and when I selected the =E2=80=9Coff=E2=80=9D position it slow=
ly lost power as I expected it to=E2=80=94but in no way like it had suddenl=
y twice died 15 or so minutes earlier. This indicated I was not dealing wit=
h a fuel issue but rather something related either to the ignition system o=
r to the primary wires that run to it.=C2=A0</span><br style=3D"color:rgb(5=
1,51,51);font-family:Verdana,Arial,Tahoma,Calibri,Geneva,sans-serif;font-si=
ze:13px;background-color:rgb(250,250,250)"><br style=3D"color:rgb(51,51,51)=
;font-family:Verdana,Arial,Tahoma,Calibri,Geneva,sans-serif;font-size:13px;=
background-color:rgb(250,250,250)"><br style=3D"color:rgb(51,51,51);font-fa=
mily:Verdana,Arial,Tahoma,Calibri,Geneva,sans-serif;font-size:13px;backgrou=
nd-color:rgb(250,250,250)"><span style=3D"color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:V=
erdana,Arial,Tahoma,Calibri,Geneva,sans-serif;font-size:13px;background-col=
or:rgb(250,250,250)">This morning I dove a bit deeper to try and diagnose t=
he problem. The car has a Mallory Unilite ignition system tied to an MSD co=
il which has been in place and performed faultlessly for a number of years.=
 I removed the distributor cap and everything appears to be okay, at least =
visually. The interior of the distributor was clean and dry as was the cap,=
 leads, carbon contact, optical reader, etc. Mallory specifies the use of a=
 ballast resistor in the lead from the power source to the coil and with th=
e engine fast-idling I tested 12.5 VDC to the resistor and about 5.5-6 VDC =
out of it and at the positive coil terminal.=C2=A0</span><br style=3D"color=
:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:Verdana,Arial,Tahoma,Calibri,Geneva,sans-serif;f=
ont-size:13px;background-color:rgb(250,250,250)"><br style=3D"color:rgb(51,=
51,51);font-family:Verdana,Arial,Tahoma,Calibri,Geneva,sans-serif;font-size=
:13px;background-color:rgb(250,250,250)"><br style=3D"color:rgb(51,51,51);f=
ont-family:Verdana,Arial,Tahoma,Calibri,Geneva,sans-serif;font-size:13px;ba=
ckground-color:rgb(250,250,250)"><span style=3D"color:rgb(51,51,51);font-fa=
mily:Verdana,Arial,Tahoma,Calibri,Geneva,sans-serif;font-size:13px;backgrou=
nd-color:rgb(250,250,250)">I have a large low-oil pressure light that is mo=
unted in the dash in place of the original overdrive switch. It is wired fr=
om the ignition switch through a 10 psi normally-closed switch mounted in t=
he oil pressure gauge sender line and then to the light. I point this out b=
ecause both times when the engine shut down yesterday the light immediately=
 came on, from which I conclude that the ignition switch itself is not the =
source of the problem. And though I did not remove the ignition key switch =
the wires to and from it seem tight and intact.</span><br style=3D"color:rg=
b(51,51,51);font-family:Verdana,Arial,Tahoma,Calibri,Geneva,sans-serif;font=
-size:13px;background-color:rgb(250,250,250)"><br style=3D"color:rgb(51,51,=
51);font-family:Verdana,Arial,Tahoma,Calibri,Geneva,sans-serif;font-size:13=
px;background-color:rgb(250,250,250)"><br style=3D"color:rgb(51,51,51);font=
-family:Verdana,Arial,Tahoma,Calibri,Geneva,sans-serif;font-size:13px;backg=
round-color:rgb(250,250,250)"><span style=3D"color:rgb(51,51,51);font-famil=
y:Verdana,Arial,Tahoma,Calibri,Geneva,sans-serif;font-size:13px;background-=
color:rgb(250,250,250)">So my question is: What do I do? I hate to throw pa=
rts at it without finding something that appears to be defective but I don=
=E2=80=99t know where to start any further tests, etc. I also don=E2=80=99t=
 want to simply wait for the issue to happen again. BTW over the weekend I =
drove about 150 miles with no issues whatever. Beyond installing four new p=
lugs last week I have not performed any work related to the ignition system=
. All suggestions/questions welcome=E2=80=A6.</span><br></div><div class=3D=
"gmail_default" style=3D"color:#3333ff"><span style=3D"color:rgb(51,51,51);=
font-family:Verdana,Arial,Tahoma,Calibri,Geneva,sans-serif;font-size:13px;b=
ackground-color:rgb(250,250,250)"><br></span></div><div class=3D"gmail_defa=
ult" style=3D"color:#3333ff"><span style=3D"color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family=
:Verdana,Arial,Tahoma,Calibri,Geneva,sans-serif;font-size:13px;background-c=
olor:rgb(250,250,250)">Best--Michael Oritt, BN1</span></div></div>

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