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Re: [Healeys] Leaking rear hub flange

To: Michael Oritt <michael.oritt@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Leaking rear hub flange
From: cjerryadams--- via Healeys <healeys@autox.team.net>
Date: Sat, 29 Jun 2019 13:38:01 -0500
Cc: Steve Gerow <sgerow2@gmail.com>, Austin Healey <healeys@autox.team.net>
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I used a grocery paper sack to make a gasket with. That was 45 years ago bef=
ore I knew of sources. All BMC dealers had quit selling Healey parts by then=
. Gasket still in place no leaks no problem.
Jerry
BN2

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 28, 2019, at 9:12 AM, Michael Oritt <michael.oritt@gmail.com> wrote=
:
>=20
> Steve--
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> In light of your email of yesterday telling me you felt that a paper gaske=
t measuring .015" was too thick to provide sufficient grip between the abutm=
ent shoulder and hub flange to prfevent a spun bearing, this morning I remov=
ed the left axle shaft to check the amount of protrusion of the outer race b=
eyond the face of the Moss gasket that I recently installed.  I was able to p=
ass a .004" feeler leaf--but no more--between the face of the hub bearing's o=
uter race and the face of the hub plus paper gasket, which is within the spe=
cification.=20
>=20
> Maybe this is due to the paper gasket's having already been under compress=
ion since I installed it last week, and do you think that perhaps this criti=
cal measurement needs to be made after one assembly/disassembly of the axle s=
haft to the hub, as obviously the gasket is going to compress a bit under to=
rquing? =20
>=20
> BTW I measured a new, spare paper gasket that came along with the one inst=
alled and it is .014" thick.  In any case thanks for focusing on this issue a=
nd I feel better knowing that apparently all is okay.
>=20
> Best--Michael Oritt
>=20
>> On Thu, Jun 27, 2019 at 5:22 PM Michael Oritt <michael.oritt@gmail.com> w=
rote:
>> Steve--
>>=20
>> I'm going to check my setup tomorrow morning.  I'm also going to see if I=
 can find my expensive micrometer versus the cheap HF one....  Thanks in any=
 case for the tip.
>>=20
>> Bear--Michael
>>=20
>>> On Thu, Jun 27, 2019 at 3:21 PM Steve Gerow <sgerow2@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> OK, that's too thick and will allow the bearing to spin. Per my experime=
nts it needs to be .003" - .004" in order to work. I made mine out of copier=
 paper, using the Moss as a pattern.
>>>=20
>>>> On Thu, Jun 27, 2019 at 8:48 AM Michael Oritt <michael.oritt@gmail.com>=
 wrote:
>>>> Steve--
>>>>=20
>>>> The new paper gasket from Moss mike's to about .015"
>>>>=20
>>>>> On Tue, Jun 25, 2019 at 11:07 PM Steve Gerow <sgerow2@gmail.com> wrote=
:
>>>>> Maybe they've thinned it down. I reported my findings to Michael Grant=
, QA Mgr at Moss at the time (since retired).
>>>>>=20
>>>>>> On Tue, Jun 25, 2019 at 6:04 PM Michael Oritt <michael.oritt@gmail.co=
m> wrote:
>>>>>> Steve--
>>>>>>=20
>>>>>> I began seeing a slightly oily "footprint" under my left rear tire a f=
ew weeks ago and figured I would have to replace the lip seal.  However when=
 I removed the axle I found that there was no paper gasket between the axle f=
lange and the hub, nor any trace of one, nor was there an O ring!
>>>>>>=20
>>>>>> My memory is not the best but i know that in the 15 or so years and 6=
0K miles since the car was professionally restored I have never pulled an ax=
le on nor had any leaks from either rear hub.  If there was a paper gasket o=
r O ring or sealant it was all gone and the only thing providing any seal at=
 all was the metal-to-metal contact
>>>>>>=20
>>>>>> After cleaning everything up and putting in an O ring and paper gaske=
t coated with hylomar I thought that I had better check the oil level as I e=
xpected it to be down from the leak.  Amazingly the oil level was almost up t=
o the very top with no need to add any at all.  So I closed everything up an=
d as I said in my previous post I have probably driven 30-50 miles since wit=
h no leak. =20
>>>>>>=20
>>>>>> BTW the paper gasket that Moss supplies is very thin though I did not=
 mike it.  I have a spare and will do so tomorrow and will let you know.
>>>>>>=20
>>>>>> Best--Michael
>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>=20
>>>>>> IO
>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>> On Tue, Jun 25, 2019 at 5:07 PM Steve Gerow <sgerow2@gmail.com> wrot=
e:
>>>>>>> ...or before any trips. How thick was the old gasket you removed?
>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>>> On Tue, Jun 25, 2019 at 2:04 PM Steve Gerow <sgerow2@gmail.com> wro=
te:
>>>>>>>> What started me thinking was I had leaking seal and a spun bearing.=
 Spoke with Tom Monaco (tom's toys) and he said he'd replaced 80+ of those b=
earings which didn't sound right to me. He said the heat from the spun beari=
ng ate the seal. So I performed the experiment shown in my gallery pix and r=
eviewed the section in the manual - both of which made it obvious what was h=
appening.
>>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>>> Your fix may last for a while or forever - dunno. Did you have to f=
reeze the bearing and heat the hub to install the bearing? If so it'll proba=
bly stay for a while.
>>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>>> Might just want to budget time to check it out after the summer dri=
ving season.
>>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Jun 25, 2019 at 1:56 PM Michael Oritt <michael.oritt@gmail=
.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> BTW just last week i put in a Moss paper gasket and hylomar to sto=
p a slight leak at the flange. Not recognizing the issue I did not think to c=
heck clearance.  I have driven the car perhaps 25-30 miles since with no pro=
blem or further leakage so I guess I am asking whether you think the issue w=
ould by now have presented itself if the gasket were clamping the bearing ra=
ce?  Or do I need to tear everything apart again?
>>>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>>>> Best--Michael
>>>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Jun 25, 2019 at 4:51 PM Michael Oritt <michael.oritt@gmai=
l.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Steve--
>>>>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>>>>> Later 100's such as mine have the same rear axle, etc. so this wo=
uld not be unique to 6 cylinder cars.  In any case I think I get the picture=
....
>>>>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>>>>> Thanks--Michael
>>>>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Jun 25, 2019 at 4:43 PM Steve Gerow <sgerow2@gmail.com> w=
rote:
>>>>>>>>>>> Also maybe this problem isn't occurring on the 100s.
>>>>>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Jun 25, 2019, 1:28 PM Michael Oritt <michael.oritt@gmai=
l.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> Steve--
>>>>>>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>>>>>>> Offlist....  Please explain why a too-thick paper gasket would c=
ause the bearing to spin?  Wouldn't it simply create more space between the i=
nner face of the axle shaft flange and the outer face of the hub, which in a=
ny case should ride correctly on the end of the axle housing/bearing surface=
 regardless?  Or does it somehow clamp the inner race of the hub bearing, bu=
t if so how and why?
>>>>>>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>>>>>>> Best--Michael
>>>>>>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Jun 25, 2019 at 4:13 PM Steve Gerow <sgerow2@gmail.com=
> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Neil,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Leaking axle seals are often caused by spun bearings. Use of t=
oo-thick Moss cardboard gaskets causes bearing to be insufficiently gripped (=
as specified in the manual). Heat from spun bearing causes seal to leak. The=
refore replacing the seal is not sufficient unless you correct the gasket / s=
pun bearing situation.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>>>>>>>> For documentation, see:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://pbase.com/stevegerow/healey_rear_bearing
>>>>>>>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: Neil McDonald <nmcd10@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: Healey List <Healeys@autox.team.net>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cc:=20
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bcc:=20
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Date: Tue, 25 Jun 2019 10:45:57 -0700
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: [Healeys] Leaking Rear Hub Flange
>>>>>>>>>>>>> A lot of list chatter about how to stop oil leaks at the rear h=
ub flange by replacing the paper gasket or using goo of some sort. Am I righ=
t in thinking that fitting a new oil seal inboard of the wheel bearing makes=
 this issue redundant, or is this not necessarily the case?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Neil
>>>>>>>>>>>>> BN6
>>>>>>>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>>>>>>>> --=20
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Steve Gerow
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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3D=
utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto">I used a grocery paper sack to make a gaske=
t with. That was 45 years ago before I knew of sources. All BMC dealers had q=
uit selling Healey parts by then. Gasket still in place no leaks no problem.=
<div>Jerry</div><div>BN2<br><br><div id=3D"AppleMailSignature" dir=3D"ltr">S=
ent from my iPhone</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br>On Jun 28, 2019, at 9:12 AM, Mi=
chael Oritt &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:michael.oritt@gmail.com";>michael.oritt@gma=
il.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div dir=3D"ltr=
"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:#3333ff">Stev=
e--</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:#3333ff"><br></div><div=
 class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:#3333ff">In light of your email of y=
esterday telling me you felt that a paper gasket measuring .015" was too thi=
ck to provide sufficient grip between the abutment shoulder and hub flange t=
o prfevent a spun bearing, this morning I removed the left axle shaft to che=
ck the amount of protrusion of the outer race beyond the face of the Moss ga=
sket that I recently installed.&nbsp; I was able to pass a .004" feeler leaf=
--but no more--between the face of the hub bearing's outer race and the face=
 of the hub plus paper gasket, which is within the specification.&nbsp;</div=
><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:#3333ff"><br></div><div class=3D=
"gmail_default" style=3D"color:#3333ff">Maybe this is due to the paper gaske=
t's having already been under compression since I installed it last week, an=
d do you think that perhaps this critical measurement needs to be made after=
 one assembly/disassembly of the axle shaft to the hub, as obviously the gas=
ket is going to compress a bit under torquing?&nbsp;&nbsp;</div><div class=3D=
"gmail_default" style=3D"color:#3333ff"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_defaul=
t" style=3D"color:#3333ff">BTW I measured a new, spare paper gasket that cam=
e along with the one installed and it is .014" thick.&nbsp; In any case than=
ks for focusing on this issue and I feel better knowing that apparently all i=
s okay.</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:#3333ff"><br></div>=
<div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:#3333ff">Best--Michael Oritt</di=
v></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr"=
>On Thu, Jun 27, 2019 at 5:22 PM Michael Oritt &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:michael=
.oritt@gmail.com">michael.oritt@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquot=
e class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px so=
lid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_=
default" style=3D"color:rgb(51,51,255)">Steve--</div><div class=3D"gmail_def=
ault" style=3D"color:rgb(51,51,255)"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" s=
tyle=3D"color:rgb(51,51,255)">I'm going to check my setup tomorrow morning.&=
nbsp; I'm also going to see if I can find my expensive micrometer versus the=
 cheap HF one....&nbsp; Thanks in any case for the tip.</div><div class=3D"g=
mail_default" style=3D"color:rgb(51,51,255)"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_d=
efault" style=3D"color:rgb(51,51,255)">Bear--Michael</div></div><br><div cla=
ss=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Thu, Jun 27, 201=
9 at 3:21 PM Steve Gerow &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:sgerow2@gmail.com"; target=3D"=
_blank">sgerow2@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail=
_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,=
204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr">OK, that's too thick and will allow t=
he bearing to spin. Per my experiments it needs to be .003" - .004" in order=
 to work. I made mine out of copier paper, using the Moss as a pattern.<br><=
/div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On=
 Thu, Jun 27, 2019 at 8:48 AM Michael Oritt &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:michael.or=
itt@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">michael.oritt@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br><=
/div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;bor=
der-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div c=
lass=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:rgb(51,51,255)">Steve--</div><div clas=
s=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:rgb(51,51,255)"><br></div><div class=3D"g=
mail_default" style=3D"color:rgb(51,51,255)">The new paper gasket from Moss m=
ike's to about .015"</div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"l=
tr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Tue, Jun 25, 2019 at 11:07 PM Steve Gerow &lt;<a=
 href=3D"mailto:sgerow2@gmail.com"; target=3D"_blank">sgerow2@gmail.com</a>&g=
t; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px=
 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=
=3D"ltr">Maybe they've thinned it down. I reported my findings to Michael Gr=
ant, QA Mgr at Moss at the time (since retired).<br></div><br><div class=3D"=
gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Tue, Jun 25, 2019 at 6=
:04 PM Michael Oritt &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:michael.oritt@gmail.com"; target=3D=
"_blank">michael.oritt@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D=
"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(20=
4,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_default" s=
tyle=3D"color:rgb(51,51,255)">Steve--</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" styl=
e=3D"color:rgb(51,51,255)"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"c=
olor:rgb(51,51,255)">I began seeing a slightly oily "footprint" under my lef=
t rear tire a few weeks ago and figured I would have to replace the lip seal=
.&nbsp; However when I removed the axle I found that there was no paper gask=
et between the axle flange and the hub, nor any trace of one, nor was there a=
n O ring!</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:rgb(51,51,255)"><=
br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:rgb(51,51,255)">My memo=
ry is not the best but i know that in the 15 or so years and 60K miles since=
 the car was professionally restored I have never pulled an axle on nor had a=
ny leaks from either rear hub.&nbsp; If there was a paper gasket or O ring o=
r sealant it was all gone and the only thing providing any seal at all was t=
he metal-to-metal contact</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:r=
gb(51,51,255)"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:rgb(51,=
51,255)">After cleaning everything up and putting in an O ring and paper gas=
ket coated with hylomar I thought that I had better check the oil level as I=
 expected it to be down from the leak.&nbsp; Amazingly the oil level was alm=
ost up to the very top with no need to add any at all.&nbsp; So I closed eve=
rything up and as I said in my previous post I have probably driven 30-50 mi=
les since with no leak.&nbsp;&nbsp;</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D=
"color:rgb(51,51,255)"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color=
:rgb(51,51,255)">BTW the paper gasket that Moss supplies is very thin though=
 I did not mike it.&nbsp; I have a spare and will do so tomorrow and will le=
t you know.</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:rgb(51,51,255)"=
><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:rgb(51,51,255)">Best-=
-Michael</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:rgb(51,51,255)"><b=
r></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:rgb(51,51,255)"><br></di=
v><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:rgb(51,51,255)"><br></div><div=
 class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:rgb(51,51,255)">IO</div></div><br><d=
iv class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Tue, Jun 2=
5, 2019 at 5:07 PM Steve Gerow &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:sgerow2@gmail.com"; targ=
et=3D"_blank">sgerow2@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D=
"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(20=
4,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr">...or before any trips. How th=
ick was the old gasket you removed?<br></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">=
<div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Tue, Jun 25, 2019 at 2:04 PM Steve G=
erow &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:sgerow2@gmail.com"; target=3D"_blank">sgerow2@gmai=
l.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"mar=
gin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1e=
x"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div>What started me thinking was I had leaking seal and=
 a spun bearing. Spoke with Tom Monaco (tom's toys) and he said he'd replace=
d 80+ of those bearings which didn't sound right to me. He said the heat fro=
m the spun bearing ate the seal. So I performed the experiment shown in my g=
allery pix and reviewed the section in the manual - both of which made it ob=
vious what was happening.</div><div><br></div><div>Your fix may last for a w=
hile or forever - dunno. Did you have to freeze the bearing and heat the hub=
 to install the bearing? If so it'll probably stay for a while.<br></div><di=
v><br></div><div>Might just want to budget time to check it out after the su=
mmer driving season.<br></div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D=
"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Tue, Jun 25, 2019 at 1:56 PM Michael Oritt &lt=
;<a href=3D"mailto:michael.oritt@gmail.com"; target=3D"_blank">michael.oritt@=
gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D=
"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-lef=
t:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:rgb(51,5=
1,255)">BTW just last week i put in a Moss paper gasket and hylomar to stop a=
 slight leak at the flange. Not recognizing the issue I did not think to che=
ck clearance.&nbsp; I have driven the car perhaps 25-30 miles since with no p=
roblem or further leakage so I guess I am asking whether you think the issue=
 would by now have presented itself if the gasket were clamping the bearing r=
ace?&nbsp; Or do I need to tear everything apart again?</div><div class=3D"g=
mail_default" style=3D"color:rgb(51,51,255)"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_d=
efault" style=3D"color:rgb(51,51,255)">Best--Michael</div></div><br><div cla=
ss=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Tue, Jun 25, 201=
9 at 4:51 PM Michael Oritt &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:michael.oritt@gmail.com"; ta=
rget=3D"_blank">michael.oritt@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote c=
lass=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid=
 rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_def=
ault" style=3D"color:rgb(51,51,255)">Steve--</div><div class=3D"gmail_defaul=
t" style=3D"color:rgb(51,51,255)"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" sty=
le=3D"color:rgb(51,51,255)">Later 100's such as mine have the same rear axle=
, etc. so this would not be unique to 6 cylinder cars.&nbsp; In any case I t=
hink I get the picture....</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:=
rgb(51,51,255)"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:rgb(51=
,51,255)">Thanks--Michael</div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=
=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Tue, Jun 25, 2019 at 4:43 PM Steve Gerow &l=
t;<a href=3D"mailto:sgerow2@gmail.com"; target=3D"_blank">sgerow2@gmail.com</=
a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px=
 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div=
 dir=3D"auto">Also maybe this problem isn't occurring on the 100s.</div><br>=
<div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Tue, Jun=
 25, 2019, 1:28 PM Michael Oritt &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:michael.oritt@gmail.c=
om" target=3D"_blank">michael.oritt@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><block=
quote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1p=
x solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gm=
ail_default" style=3D"color:rgb(51,51,255)">Steve--</div><div class=3D"gmail=
_default" style=3D"color:rgb(51,51,255)"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_defau=
lt" style=3D"color:rgb(51,51,255)">Offlist....&nbsp; Please explain why a to=
o-thick paper gasket would cause the bearing to spin?&nbsp; Wouldn't it simp=
ly create more space between the inner face of the axle shaft flange and the=
 outer face of the hub, which in any case should ride correctly on the end o=
f the axle housing/bearing surface regardless?&nbsp; Or does it somehow clam=
p the inner race of the hub bearing, but if so how and why?</div><div class=3D=
"gmail_default" style=3D"color:rgb(51,51,255)"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail=
_default" style=3D"color:rgb(51,51,255)">Best--Michael</div></div><br><div c=
lass=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Tue, Jun 25, 2=
019 at 4:13 PM Steve Gerow &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:sgerow2@gmail.com"; rel=3D"n=
oreferrer" target=3D"_blank">sgerow2@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><bloc=
kquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1=
px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div>Neil,</div=
><div>Leaking axle seals are often caused by spun bearings. Use of too-thick=
 Moss cardboard gaskets causes bearing to be insufficiently gripped (as spec=
ified in the manual). Heat from spun bearing causes seal to leak. Therefore r=
eplacing the seal is not sufficient unless you correct the gasket / spun bea=
ring situation.</div><div><br></div><div>For documentation, see:</div><div><=
a href=3D"https://pbase.com/stevegerow/healey_rear_bearing"; rel=3D"noreferre=
r" target=3D"_blank">https://pbase.com/stevegerow/healey_rear_bearing</a></d=
iv><div><br></div><div>
</div><div>&gt;&gt;&gt;<br></div><div>From:&nbsp;Neil McDonald &lt;<a href=3D=
"mailto:nmcd10@gmail.com"; rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">nmcd10@gmail.=
com</a>&gt;</div>To:&nbsp;Healey List &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:Healeys@autox.te=
am.net" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">Healeys@autox.team.net</a>&gt;<=
br>Cc:&nbsp;<br>Bcc:&nbsp;<br>Date:&nbsp;Tue, 25 Jun 2019 10:45:57 -0700<br>=
Subject:&nbsp;[Healeys] Leaking Rear Hub Flange<br><div dir=3D"auto">A
 lot of list chatter about how to stop oil leaks at the rear hub flange=20
by replacing the paper gasket or using goo of some sort. Am I right in=20
thinking that fitting a new oil seal inboard of the wheel bearing makes=20
this issue redundant, or is this not necessarily the case?</div><div dir=3D"=
auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">Neil</div><div dir=3D"auto">BN6</div>

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