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Subject: Re: [Healeys] Anti-Sway Bar
From: Kees Oudesluijs <coudesluijs@chello.nl>
Date: Wed, 24 Jul 2019 15:06:08 +0200
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A stiffer anti-roll bar (or springs) on the front only will also 
introduce more understeer and may be unbalance in the car´s road behaviour.

If you change one thing it will invariably lead to the need of changing 
other things to get it right.

Kees Oudesluijs



Op 24-7-2019 om 14:07 schreef Perry via Healeys:
>
> Charlie
>
> My experience with a larger roll bar is that the car tends to get 
> crazy over bumps, pavement expansion joints and the like. I have a 7/8 
> bar on the shelf (memento of things gone awry previously) and I could 
> not use it even on my V8 car.
>
> Perry
>
> Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for 
> Windows 10
>
> *Sent: *Tuesday, July 23, 2019 6:47 PM
> *Subject: *Re: [Healeys] Anti-Sway Bar
>
> Mike,
>
> The original bar on my 100 was also 1/2" but I'm installing a 7/8" 
> one. AH Spares has them at 5/8", 3/4" and 7/8". And they have 
> polyurethane bushings.
>
> Regards,
>
> Charlie Schott
>
> *From: *"Mike MacLean" <rrengineer.mike@att.net>
> *To: *"Perry" <healeyguy@aol.com>
> *Cc: *healeys@autox.team.net
> *Sent: *Tuesday, July 23, 2019 12:37:55 PM
> *Subject: *Re: [Healeys] Anti-Sway Bar
>
> It seems my anti-sway bar is the original 1/2" bar.   My curiosity was 
> rooted in the fact I used to own an original sway bar for my Bugeye.  
> That was 1/2" diameter also.  I recently rebuilt the front suspension 
> on the Bugeye which included new lower a-arms of the later type for 
> later Spridgets.  The new lower a-arms came with the reinforced holes 
> for mounting a sway bar.  The new bar on the Bugeye is 5/8".  It 
> doesn't seem right the smaller car has a bigger sway bar.
>
> Mike MacLean
>
> On Jul 23, 2019 6:48 AM, Perry <healeyguy@aol.com> wrote:
>
>     Mike
>
>     Sorry, my BN2 measures 5/8 inch but I also measured the 10 other
>     sway bars upstairs in the garage and 4 were ½ inch and the rest
>     5/8 inch.  Suspect I put a 6 cylinder bar on it 17 years ago
>     during the last resto. Have had that car for 54 years.
>
>     P
>
>     Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986>
>     for Windows 10
>
>     *Sent: *Tuesday, July 23, 2019 12:44 AM
>     *Subject: *[Healeys] Anti-Sway Bar
>
>     What is the diameter of a 100 anti-sway bar?  I just tried to put
>     urethane bushings on the one I have with my BN2 (the two center
>     ones held on with a metal strap) and the hole in the bushing was
>     way too big.  What good is that?  I switched to a rubber set I
>     have and they fit better, but still a little loose.
>
>     Mike MacLean
>
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    <p>A stiffer anti-roll bar (or springs) on the front only will also
      introduce more understeer and may be unbalance in the car´s road
      behaviour.</p>
    <p>If you change one thing it will invariably lead to the need of
      changing other things to get it right.<br>
    </p>
    <p>Kees Oudesluijs</p>
    <p><br>
    </p>
    <p><br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Op 24-7-2019 om 14:07 schreef Perry via
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        <p class="MsoNormal">Charlie</p>
        <p class="MsoNormal">My experience with a larger roll bar is
          that the car tends to get crazy over bumps, pavement expansion
          joints and the like. I have a 7/8 bar on the shelf (memento of
          things gone awry previously) and I could not use it even on my
          V8 car. </p>
        <p class="MsoNormal">Perry</p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal">Sent from <a
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          <p class="MsoNormal" style="border:none;padding:0in"><b>From:
            </b><a href="mailto:schottc@knology.net";
              moz-do-not-send="true">Charles Schott</a><br>
            <b>Sent: </b>Tuesday, July 23, 2019 6:47 PM<br>
            <b>To: </b><a href="mailto:rrengineer.mike@att.net";
              moz-do-not-send="true">Mike MacLean</a><br>
            <b>Cc: </b><a href="mailto:healeyguy@aol.com";
              moz-do-not-send="true">Perry</a>; <a
              href="mailto:healeys@autox.team.net";
              moz-do-not-send="true">healeys@autox.team.net</a><br>
            <b>Subject: </b>Re: [Healeys] Anti-Sway Bar</p>
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        <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
            style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Times New
            Roman&quot;,serif;color:black">Mike,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
              style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Times New
              Roman&quot;,serif;color:black">The original bar on my 100
              was also 1/2" but I'm installing a 7/8" one. AH Spares has
              them at 5/8", 3/4" and 7/8". And they have polyurethane
              bushings.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
              style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Times New
              Roman&quot;,serif;color:black">Regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
              style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Times New
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Schott<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">From:
              </span></b><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">"Mike
              MacLean" <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" 
href="mailto:rrengineer.mike@att.net";>&lt;rrengineer.mike@att.net&gt;</a><br>
              <b>To: </b>"Perry" <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" 
href="mailto:healeyguy@aol.com";>&lt;healeyguy@aol.com&gt;</a><br>
              <b>Cc: </b><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" 
href="mailto:healeys@autox.team.net";>healeys@autox.team.net</a><br>
              <b>Sent: </b>Tuesday, July 23, 2019 12:37:55 PM<br>
              <b>Subject: </b>Re: [Healeys] Anti-Sway Bar<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">It
                seems my anti-sway bar is the original 1/2" bar.   My
                curiosity was rooted in the fact I used to own an
                original sway bar for my Bugeye.  That was 1/2" diameter
                also.  I recently rebuilt the front suspension on the
                Bugeye which included new lower a-arms of the later type
                for later Spridgets.  The new lower a-arms came with the
                reinforced holes for mounting a sway bar.  The new bar
                on the Bugeye is 5/8".  It doesn't seem right the
                smaller car has a bigger sway bar.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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              <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">Mike
                  MacLean<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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              <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">On
                  Jul 23, 2019 6:48 AM, Perry <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" 
href="mailto:healeyguy@aol.com";>&lt;healeyguy@aol.com&gt;</a>
                  wrote:<br>
                  <br>
                  <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                    <p><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">Mike<o:p></o:p></span></p>
                    <p><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">Sorry,
                        my BN2 measures 5/8 inch but I also measured the
                        10 other sway bars upstairs in the garage and 4
                        were ½ inch and the rest 5/8 inch.  Suspect I
                        put a 6 cylinder bar on it 17 years ago during
                        the last resto. Have had that car for 54 
years.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
                    <p><span
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                        from <a
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                          target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">Mail</a>
                        for Windows 10<o:p></o:p></span></p>
                    <p><span
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                      <p><b><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">From:
                          </span></b><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,sans-serif;color:black"><a
                            href="mailto:rrengineer.mike@att.net";
                            target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">Michael
                            MacLean</a><br>
                          <b>Sent: </b>Tuesday, July 23, 2019 12:44 AM<br>
                          <b>To: </b><a
                            href="mailto:healeys@autox.team.net";
                            target="_blank" 
moz-do-not-send="true">Healeys</a><br>
                          <b>Subject: </b>[Healeys] Anti-Sway 
Bar<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                    <p><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,sans-serif;color:black"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
                    <p><span
                        style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Times
                        New Roman&quot;,serif;color:black">What is the
                        diameter of a 100 anti-sway bar?  I just tried
                        to put urethane bushings on the one I have with
                        my BN2 (the two center ones held on with a metal
                        strap) and the hole in the bushing was way too
                        big.  What good is that?  I switched to a rubber
                        set I have and they fit better, but still a
                        little loose.  </span><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,sans-serif;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
                    <p><span
                        style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Times
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MacLean</span><span
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