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Subject: Re: [Healeys] Anti-Sway Bar
From: Bob Spidell <bspidell@comcast.net>
Date: Wed, 24 Jul 2019 16:57:24 -0700
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In 1953, Healeys were 'state of the art' for 1943.

FWIW, I put a larger front anti-sway bar on my BJ8 and all I noticed was 
that it stayed flatter in turns, but I don't track it so I probably 
wouldn't notice a slight increase in understeer.

Bob


On 7/24/2019 9:56 AM, rrengineer.mike wrote:
> Gee, I'm glad I brought this up.  I'm going to stick with the 1/2" bar 
> as my car is destined for the road, not the track.  It's  a 
> continuation of a philosophy that my late restorer friend was always 
> on about.  My LeMans conversion of my BN2 is more sizzle than steak.  
> Sure I am installing all the visual cues like H6 carbs with LeMans 
> intake and a louvered bonnet with leather strap, but that's about it.  
> I am even using used valve springs because I was told it would tick 
> over at idle from first startup.  Besides, never being on the track, 
> high rpm will not be a factor.  Not even close to valve float.  Yes, I 
> am converting to disc brakes in the front, but that's a no brainer for 
> safe driving street or track.  When I asked my friend about going with 
> a Toyota transmission conversion, he said, "don't you want the Austin 
> Healey experience"?  So, pretty much a stock BN2.  I think it will 
> perform on the street just great.  Wasn't it state of the art back in 
> 53?  Good enough for a Sunday drive now and then.
> Mike MacLean
>
>
>
> Sent from my Samsung Galaxy , an AT&T LTE smartphone
>
> -------- Original message --------
> From: Charles Schott <schottc@knology.net>
> Date: 7/24/19 6:14 AM (GMT-08:00)
> To: Perry <healeyguy@aol.com>
> Cc: healeys@autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: [Healeys] Anti-Sway Bar
>
> Perry,
>
> Thanks for the info. If I don't like it I can always go to a smaller 
> size. Does anyone know what size is optimal for a road car?
>
> Regards,
>
> Charlie
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> *From: *"Perry" <healeyguy@aol.com>
> *To: *"Charles Schott" <schottc@knology.net>
> *Cc: *healeys@autox.team.net
> *Sent: *Wednesday, July 24, 2019 7:07:47 AM
> *Subject: *RE: [Healeys] Anti-Sway Bar
>
> Charlie
>
> My experience with a larger roll bar is that the car tends to get 
> crazy over bumps, pavement expansion joints and the like. I have a 7/8 
> bar on the shelf (memento of things gone awry previously) and I could 
> not use it even on my V8 car.
>
> Perry
>
> Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for 
> Windows 10
>
> *Sent: *Tuesday, July 23, 2019 6:47 PM
> *Subject: *Re: [Healeys] Anti-Sway Bar
>
> Mike,
>
> The original bar on my 100 was also 1/2" but I'm installing a 7/8" 
> one. AH Spares has them at 5/8", 3/4" and 7/8". And they have 
> polyurethane bushings.
>
> Regards,
>
> Charlie Schott
>
> *From: *"Mike MacLean" <rrengineer.mike@att.net>
> *To: *"Perry" <healeyguy@aol.com>
> *Cc: *healeys@autox.team.net
> *Sent: *Tuesday, July 23, 2019 12:37:55 PM
> *Subject: *Re: [Healeys] Anti-Sway Bar
>
> It seems my anti-sway bar is the original 1/2" bar.  My curiosity was 
> rooted in the fact I used to own an original sway bar for my Bugeye.  
> That was 1/2" diameter also.  I recently rebuilt the front suspension 
> on the Bugeye which included new lower a-arms of the later type for 
> later Spridgets.  The new lower a-arms came with the reinforced holes 
> for mounting a sway bar.  The new bar on the Bugeye is 5/8".  It 
> doesn't seem right the smaller car has a bigger sway bar.
>
> Mike MacLean
>
> On Jul 23, 2019 6:48 AM, Perry <healeyguy@aol.com> wrote:
>
>
>     Mike
>
>     Sorry, my BN2 measures 5/8 inch but I also measured the 10 other
>     sway bars upstairs in the garage and 4 were ½ inch and the rest
>     5/8 inch.  Suspect I put a 6 cylinder bar on it 17 years ago
>     during the last resto. Have had that car for 54 years.
>
>     P
>

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    <p>In 1953, Healeys were 'state of the art' for 1943.</p>
    <p>FWIW, I put a larger front anti-sway bar on my BJ8 and all I
      noticed was that it stayed flatter in turns, but I don't track it
      so I probably wouldn't notice a slight increase in understeer.</p>
    <p>Bob</p>
    <p><br>
    </p>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 7/24/2019 9:56 AM, rrengineer.mike
      wrote:<br>
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      <div dir="auto">Gee, I'm glad I brought this up.  I'm going to
        stick with the 1/2" bar as my car is destined for the road, not
        the track.  It's  a continuation of a philosophy that my late
        restorer friend was always on about.  My LeMans conversion of my
        BN2 is more sizzle than steak.  Sure I am installing all the
        visual cues like H6 carbs with LeMans intake and a louvered
        bonnet with leather strap, but that's about it.  I am even using
        used valve springs because I was told it would tick over at idle
        from first startup.  Besides, never being on the track, high rpm
        will not be a factor.  Not even close to valve float.  Yes, I am
        converting to disc brakes in the front, but that's a no brainer
        for safe driving street or track.  When I asked my friend about
        going with a Toyota transmission conversion, he said, "don't you
        want the Austin Healey experience"?  So, pretty much a stock
        BN2.  I think it will perform on the street just great.  Wasn't
        it state of the art back in 53?  Good enough for a Sunday drive
        now and then.</div>
      <div dir="auto">Mike MacLean</div>
      <div dir="auto"><br>
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        <div style="font-size:85%;color:#575757" dir="auto">Sent from my
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        <div>-------- Original message --------</div>
        <div>From: Charles Schott <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" 
href="mailto:schottc@knology.net";>&lt;schottc@knology.net&gt;</a> </div>
        <div>Date: 7/24/19 6:14 AM (GMT-08:00) </div>
        <div>To: Perry <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" 
href="mailto:healeyguy@aol.com";>&lt;healeyguy@aol.com&gt;</a> </div>
        <div>Cc: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" 
href="mailto:healeys@autox.team.net";>healeys@autox.team.net</a> </div>
        <div>Subject: Re: [Healeys] Anti-Sway Bar </div>
        <div><br>
        </div>
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        <div>Perry,</div>
        <div><br>
        </div>
        <div>Thanks for the info. If I don't like it I can always go to
          a smaller size. Does anyone know what size is optimal for a
          road car?</div>
        <div><br>
        </div>
        <div>Regards,</div>
        <div><br>
        </div>
        <div>Charlie</div>
        <div><br>
        </div>
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style="color:#000;font-weight:normal;font-style:normal;text-decoration:none;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;"><b>From:
          </b>"Perry" <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" 
href="mailto:healeyguy@aol.com";>&lt;healeyguy@aol.com&gt;</a><br>
          <b>To: </b>"Charles Schott" <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" 
href="mailto:schottc@knology.net";>&lt;schottc@knology.net&gt;</a><br>
          <b>Cc: </b><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" 
href="mailto:healeys@autox.team.net";>healeys@autox.team.net</a><br>
          <b>Sent: </b>Wednesday, July 24, 2019 7:07:47 AM<br>
          <b>Subject: </b>RE: [Healeys] Anti-Sway Bar<br>
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            <p class="MsoNormal">Charlie</p>
            <p class="MsoNormal">My experience with a larger roll bar is
              that the car tends to get crazy over bumps, pavement
              expansion joints and the like. I have a 7/8 bar on the
              shelf (memento of things gone awry previously) and I could
              not use it even on my V8 car. </p>
            <p class="MsoNormal">Perry</p>
            <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
            <p class="MsoNormal">Sent from <a
                href="https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986";
                target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">Mail</a> for
              Windows 10</p>
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                </b><a href="mailto:schottc@knology.net"; target="_blank"
                  moz-do-not-send="true">Charles Schott</a><br>
                <b>Sent: </b>Tuesday, July 23, 2019 6:47 PM<br>
                <b>To: </b><a href="mailto:rrengineer.mike@att.net";
                  target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">Mike MacLean</a><br>
                <b>Cc: </b><a href="mailto:healeyguy@aol.com";
                  target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">Perry</a>; <a
                  href="mailto:healeys@autox.team.net"; target="_blank"
                  moz-do-not-send="true">healeys@autox.team.net</a><br>
                <b>Subject: </b>Re: [Healeys] Anti-Sway Bar</p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Times New
                Roman&quot;,serif;color:black">Mike,</span></p>
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              <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                  style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Times New
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            <div>
              <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                  style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Times New
                  Roman&quot;,serif;color:black">The original bar on my
                  100 was also 1/2" but I'm installing a 7/8" one. AH
                  Spares has them at 5/8", 3/4" and 7/8". And they have
                  polyurethane bushings.</span></p>
            </div>
            <div>
              <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                  style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Times New
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              <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                  style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Times New
                  Roman&quot;,serif;color:black">Regards,</span></p>
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              <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">From:
                  </span></b><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">"Mike
                  MacLean" <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" 
href="mailto:rrengineer.mike@att.net";>&lt;rrengineer.mike@att.net&gt;</a><br>
                  <b>To: </b>"Perry" <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" 
href="mailto:healeyguy@aol.com";>&lt;healeyguy@aol.com&gt;</a><br>
                  <b>Cc: </b><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" 
href="mailto:healeys@autox.team.net";>healeys@autox.team.net</a><br>
                  <b>Sent: </b>Tuesday, July 23, 2019 12:37:55 PM<br>
                  <b>Subject: </b>Re: [Healeys] Anti-Sway Bar</span></p>
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                <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">It
                    seems my anti-sway bar is the original 1/2" bar. 
                     My curiosity was rooted in the fact I used to own
                    an original sway bar for my Bugeye.  That was 1/2"
                    diameter also.  I recently rebuilt the front
                    suspension on the Bugeye which included new lower
                    a-arms of the later type for later Spridgets.  The
                    new lower a-arms came with the reinforced holes for
                    mounting a sway bar.  The new bar on the Bugeye is
                    5/8".  It doesn't seem right the smaller car has a
                    bigger sway bar.</span></p>
                <div>
                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">Mike
                      MacLean</span></p>
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                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">On
                      Jul 23, 2019 6:48 AM, Perry
                      <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" 
href="mailto:healeyguy@aol.com";>&lt;healeyguy@aol.com&gt;</a> wrote:<br>
                    </span></p>
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                        <p><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">Mike</span></p>
                        <p><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">Sorry,
                            my BN2 measures 5/8 inch but I also measured
                            the 10 other sway bars upstairs in the
                            garage and 4 were ½ inch and the rest 5/8
                            inch.  Suspect I put a 6 cylinder bar on it
                            17 years ago during the last resto. Have had
                            that car for 54 years.</span></p>
                        <p><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">P</span></p>
                        <p><span
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                        <p><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,sans-serif;color:black"> </span>
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