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Re: [Healeys] Brake issue

To: Perry <healeyguy@aol.com>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Brake issue
From: Michael Oritt <michael.oritt@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2019 21:51:16 -0400
Cc: Austin Healey <healeys@autox.team.net>
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During this evening's rides to and from a nearby destination the brakes
felt fine and pedal travel was normal--naturally!
I hope to get under the car tomorrow.

Best--Michael Oritt

On Thu, Jul 25, 2019 at 5:33 PM Perry <healeyguy@aol.com> wrote:

> High pedal, meaning that the brake pedal does not travel downward when
> applying foot pressure, is indicative of wheel cylinders or caliper pisto=
ns
> not moving in their bore.  The fluid in the master cylinder has less spac=
e
> to travel to and therefore remains high. Since there is more heat coming
> off the front brakes a suspect the problem is in that (front brakes) area=
.
> I suppose if there was a blockage in the master it could act the same way
> but don=E2=80=99t remember that ever happen to me previously.
>
> But I=E2=80=99ve been wrong before=E2=80=A6..
>
> Perry
>
>
>
> Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=3D550986> for
> Windows 10
>
>
>
> *From: *Michael Oritt <michael.oritt@gmail.com>
> *Sent: *Thursday, July 25, 2019 5:10 PM
> *To: *Randall Hicks <healey100m@me.com>; Austin Healey
> <healeys@autox.team.net>
> *Subject: *Re: [Healeys] Brake issue
>
>
>
> I'm going for a short ride in a little while to a destination nearby and =
I
> will carefully observe if the pedal gets high and hard and if the brakes
> drag, etc.
>
>
> If there is a collapsed line the condition should appear relatively
> quickly don't you think?  OTOH if it does not appear before the car heats
> up that might be significant.
>
>
>
> I am sometimes a sucker for easy solutions....
>
>
>
> Best--Michael Oritt
>
>
>
> On Thu, Jul 25, 2019 at 4:33 PM Michael Oritt <michael.oritt@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> NEWSFLASH:
>
> After letting the car sit for a few hours I just checked the pedal and it
> has gone back to normal with an inch or two of motion, same as it was
> before i started out this morning's drive.
>
> At the same time i adjusted the pushrod length a few months back I also
> removed some exhaust heat-shielding and have not yet gotten around to
> replacing it.  Given the high ambient temperatures I wonder if heat is
> getting to the MC, causing the brakes to somehow stay partially or fully
> activated?
>
>
>
> Best--Michael Oritt
>
>
>
> On Thu, Jul 25, 2019 at 4:29 PM Randall Hicks <healey100m@me.com> wrote:
>
> Swollen (inside) brake hose not releasing fluid???
>
>
>
> Randy
>
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>
> On Jul 25, 2019, at 4:25 PM, Michael Oritt <michael.oritt@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> Nope--Dot 3/4.
>
>
>
> On Thu, Jul 25, 2019 at 3:27 PM Michael Salter <michaelsalter@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> Silicone fluid?
>
>
>
> M
>
>
>
> On Thu, Jul 25, 2019, 2:36 PM Michael Oritt, <michael.oritt@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> During a drive today I noticed that the brake pedal is higher and harder
> than normal and as I come to a stop it definitely feels as though the
> brakes are dragging, plus there seemed to be a lot of heat coming from th=
e
> front brakes.
>
>
>
> I suspect a problem with the master cylinder but would appreciate any
> suggestions as to what the issue and fix might be.
>
>
>
> Best--Michael Oritt
>
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:#3333ff"><span=
 style=3D"color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:Verdana,Arial,Tahoma,Calibri,Gene=
va,sans-serif;font-size:13px">During this evening&#39;s rides to and from a=
 nearby destination the brakes felt fine and pedal travel was normal--natur=
ally!=C2=A0=C2=A0</span></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:#=
3333ff"><span style=3D"color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:Verdana,Arial,Tahoma=
,Calibri,Geneva,sans-serif;font-size:13px">I hope to get under the car tomo=
rrow.</span><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:#3333ff">=
<span style=3D"color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:Verdana,Arial,Tahoma,Calibri=
,Geneva,sans-serif;font-size:13px"><br></span></div><div class=3D"gmail_def=
ault" style=3D"color:#3333ff"><span style=3D"color:rgb(34,34,34);font-famil=
y:Verdana,Arial,Tahoma,Calibri,Geneva,sans-serif;font-size:13px">Best--Mich=
ael Oritt</span></div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr"=
 class=3D"gmail_attr">On Thu, Jul 25, 2019 at 5:33 PM Perry &lt;<a href=3D"=
mailto:healeyguy@aol.com";>healeyguy@aol.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockq=
uote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1p=
x solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div lang=3D"EN-US"><div class=
=3D"gmail-m_4202390969920220988WordSection1"><p class=3D"MsoNormal">High pe=
dal, meaning that the brake pedal does not travel downward when applying fo=
ot pressure, is indicative of wheel cylinders or caliper pistons not moving=
 in their bore.=C2=A0 The fluid in the master cylinder has less space to tr=
avel to and therefore remains high. Since there is more heat coming off the=
 front brakes a suspect the problem is in that (front brakes) area. I suppo=
se if there was a blockage in the master it could act the same way but don=
=E2=80=99t remember that ever happen to me previously. </p><p class=3D"MsoN=
ormal">But I=E2=80=99ve been wrong before=E2=80=A6..</p><p class=3D"MsoNorm=
al">Perry</p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p><p class=3D"Mso=
Normal">Sent from <a href=3D"https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=3D5509=
86" target=3D"_blank">Mail</a> for Windows 10</p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u>=
</u>=C2=A0<u></u></p><div style=3D"border-right:none;border-bottom:none;bor=
der-left:none;border-top:1pt solid rgb(225,225,225);padding:3pt 0in 0in"><p=
 class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"border:none;padding:0in"><b>From: </b><a href=
=3D"mailto:michael.oritt@gmail.com"; target=3D"_blank">Michael Oritt</a><br>=
<b>Sent: </b>Thursday, July 25, 2019 5:10 PM<br><b>To: </b><a href=3D"mailt=
o:healey100m@me.com" target=3D"_blank">Randall Hicks</a>; <a href=3D"mailto=
:healeys@autox.team.net" target=3D"_blank">Austin Healey</a><br><b>Subject:=
 </b>Re: [Healeys] Brake issue</p></div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=
=A0<u></u></p><div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10p=
t;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif;color:rgb(34,34,34)">I&#39;m going for a s=
hort ride in a little while to a destination nearby and I will carefully ob=
serve if the pedal gets high and hard and if the brakes drag, etc.</span><s=
pan style=3D"color:rgb(51,51,255)"><u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p c=
lass=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Verdana,sans-s=
erif;color:rgb(34,34,34)"><br>If there is a collapsed line the condition sh=
ould appear relatively quickly don&#39;t you think?=C2=A0 OTOH if it does n=
ot appear before the car heats up that might be significant.=C2=A0</span><s=
pan style=3D"color:rgb(51,51,255)"><u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p c=
lass=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Verdana,sans-s=
erif;color:rgb(34,34,34)">=C2=A0</span><span style=3D"color:rgb(51,51,255)"=
><u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"=
font-size:10pt;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif;color:rgb(34,34,34)">I am som=
etimes a sucker for easy solutions....</span><span style=3D"color:rgb(51,51=
,255)"><u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span sty=
le=3D"color:rgb(51,51,255)"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p></div><div><p cl=
ass=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Verdana,sans-se=
rif;color:rgb(34,34,34)">Best--Michael Oritt</span><span style=3D"color:rgb=
(51,51,255)"><u></u><u></u></span></p></div></div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u=
></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p><div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">On Thu, Jul 25, 2019=
 at 4:33 PM Michael Oritt &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:michael.oritt@gmail.com"; ta=
rget=3D"_blank">michael.oritt@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:</p></div><blockquote=
 style=3D"border-top:none;border-right:none;border-bottom:none;border-left:=
1pt solid rgb(204,204,204);padding:0in 0in 0in 6pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin=
-right:0in"><div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:rgb(51,51=
,255)">NEWSFLASH:<br><br>After letting the car sit for a few hours I just c=
hecked the pedal and it has gone back to normal with an inch or two of moti=
on, same as it was before i started out this morning&#39;s drive.<br><br>At=
 the same time i adjusted the pushrod length a few months back I also remov=
ed some exhaust heat-shielding and have not yet gotten around to replacing =
it.=C2=A0 Given the high ambient temperatures I wonder if heat is getting t=
o the MC, causing the brakes to somehow stay partially or fully activated?=
=C2=A0 =C2=A0<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><sp=
an style=3D"color:rgb(51,51,255)"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p></div><div=
><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:rgb(51,51,255)">Best--Michael =
Oritt<u></u><u></u></span></p></div></div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=
=A0<u></u></p><div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">On Thu, Jul 25, 2019 at 4:29=
 PM Randall Hicks &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:healey100m@me.com"; target=3D"_blank=
">healey100m@me.com</a>&gt; wrote:</p></div><blockquote style=3D"border-top=
:none;border-right:none;border-bottom:none;border-left:1pt solid rgb(204,20=
4,204);padding:0in 0in 0in 6pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in"><div><p =
class=3D"MsoNormal">Swollen (inside) brake hose not releasing fluid???</p><=
div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p></div><div><p class=3D"M=
soNormal">Randy</p><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p><div=
 id=3D"gmail-m_4202390969920220988gmail-m_-5968309692687112733gmail-m_80434=
99434626532399AppleMailSignature"><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Sent from my iPhon=
e</p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12pt"><br>On =
Jul 25, 2019, at 4:25 PM, Michael Oritt &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:michael.oritt=
@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">michael.oritt@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<u></u>=
<u></u></p></div><blockquote style=3D"margin-top:5pt;margin-bottom:5pt"><di=
v><div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:rgb(51,51,255)">Nop=
e--Dot 3/4.<u></u><u></u></span></p></div></div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u><=
/u>=C2=A0<u></u></p><div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">On Thu, Jul 25, 2019 a=
t 3:27 PM Michael Salter &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:michaelsalter@gmail.com"; tar=
get=3D"_blank">michaelsalter@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:</p></div><blockquote =
style=3D"border-top:none;border-right:none;border-bottom:none;border-left:1=
pt solid rgb(204,204,204);padding:0in 0in 0in 6pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-=
right:0in"><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Silicone fluid?</p><div><p class=3D"=
MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">M</p><=
/div></div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p><div><div><p clas=
s=3D"MsoNormal">On Thu, Jul 25, 2019, 2:36 PM Michael Oritt, &lt;<a href=3D=
"mailto:michael.oritt@gmail.com"; target=3D"_blank">michael.oritt@gmail.com<=
/a>&gt; wrote:</p></div><blockquote style=3D"border-top:none;border-right:n=
one;border-bottom:none;border-left:1pt solid rgb(204,204,204);padding:0in 0=
in 0in 6pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in"><div><div><p class=3D"MsoNor=
mal"><span style=3D"color:rgb(51,51,255)">During a drive today I noticed th=
at the brake pedal is higher and harder than normal and as I come to a stop=
 it definitely feels as though the brakes are dragging, plus there seemed t=
o be a lot of heat coming from the front brakes.<u></u><u></u></span></p></=
div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:rgb(51,51,255)"><u></u=
>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"c=
olor:rgb(51,51,255)">I suspect a problem with the master cylinder but would=
 appreciate any suggestions as to what the issue and fix might be.<u></u><u=
></u></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:rgb(=
51,51,255)"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal=
"><span style=3D"color:rgb(51,51,255)">Best--Michael Oritt<u></u><u></u></s=
pan></p></div></div><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12pt">___=
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