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To: Steven Kingsbury <airtightproductions@icloud.com>, Larry <larry@patersondesign.ca>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Radiator Shovel, continued
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The problem is that the fan needs to be able to build a pressure head in or=
der for the air to be forced through the radiator. As with any fluid flow t=
he bulk of the fluid (air in this case) will go where the resistance is low=
er, which means anywhere except through the radiator core. Placing the fan =
against the core and sealing the edges in some way allows the fan to build =
enough head to force the bulk of the air through the core.

I modified the cross braces on my car by cutting them loose from the upper =
bracket (two were already broken loose), bending them slightly forward from=
 their bases and welding a sheetmetal angle to the upper brace to which I t=
hen re-weld the upper ends of the cross braces. This gave me an extra inch =
or so of clearance to allow the fans to be mounted to the front of the radi=
ator. I used foam weatherstrips to seal the outer edges of the fan shrouds =
to the radiator core. The fans mounted side by side are wider than the radi=
ator core so I fabricated blanking plates from alloy sheet and mounted them=
 to the overlapping fan shrouds outboard of the core so that the fans can o=
nly blow through and not around the core.

I thought that I had taken some pictures during the process, but I haven't =
been able to find them. I'm going to have to remove the grille to get any k=
ind of pictures, but I'll try to do that tomorrow.

Bill Lawrence
BN1 #554
________________________________
From: Healeys <healeys-bounces@autox.team.net> on behalf of Larry via Heale=
ys <healeys@autox.team.net>
Sent: Friday, November 1, 2019 12:31 AM
To: Steven Kingsbury <airtightproductions@icloud.com>
Cc: healeys@autox.team.net <healeys@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Radiator Shovel, continued

I bolted mine right to the rad.

Larry Paterson
BN7 , 100M

On Oct. 31, 2019 5:07 p.m., Steven Kingsbury via Healeys <healeys@autox.tea=
m.net> wrote:
What? The fan was less than an inch (2.54 centimeters) away from the radiat=
or core, can't get much closer than that and like I said, I solved the prob=
lem I had another way.  How close should you mount a fan to not let air esc=
ape?
S

On October 31, 2019 at 1:24 PM, Kees Oudesluijs <coudesluijs@chello.nl> wro=
te:


This fan cannot work properly because it is to far away from the core and a=
ir escapes from the space between fan and core.

Kees Oudesluijs



Op 31-10-2019 om 18:17 schreef Steven Kingsbury via Healeys:
Patrick,
   Here are a couple of shots of my car back in 2007 when I installed an el=
ectric fan to help with cooling. As you can see, it was quite easy as nothi=
ng was in the way! The fan didn't help though and I found another solution =
to that problem, but like I said, lots of room in there!
Steven

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The problem is that the fan needs to be able to build a pressure head in or=
der for the air to be forced through the radiator. As with any fluid flow t=
he bulk of the fluid (air in this case) will go where the resistance is low=
er, which means anywhere except
 through the radiator core. Placing the fan against the core and sealing th=
e edges in some way allows the fan to build enough head to force the bulk o=
f the air through the core.</div>
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<div style=3D"font-family: Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;=
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I modified the cross braces on my car by cutting them loose from the upper =
bracket (two were already broken loose), bending them slightly forward from=
 their bases and welding a sheetmetal angle to the upper brace to which I t=
hen re-weld the upper ends of the
 cross braces. This gave me an extra inch or so of clearance to allow the f=
ans to be mounted to the front of the radiator. I used foam weatherstrips t=
o seal the outer edges of the fan shrouds to the radiator core. The fans mo=
unted side by side are wider than
 the radiator core so I fabricated blanking plates from alloy sheet and mou=
nted them to the overlapping fan shrouds outboard of the core so that the f=
ans can only blow through and not around the core.</div>
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<br>
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I thought that I had taken some pictures during the process, but I haven't =
been able to find them. I'm going to have to remove the grille to get any k=
ind of pictures, but I'll try to do that tomorrow.</div>
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Bill Lawrence</div>
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BN1 #554</div>
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ounces@autox.team.net&gt; on behalf of Larry via Healeys &lt;healeys@autox.=
team.net&gt;<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, November 1, 2019 12:31 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Steven Kingsbury &lt;airtightproductions@icloud.com&gt;<br>
<b>Cc:</b> healeys@autox.team.net &lt;healeys@autox.team.net&gt;<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys] Radiator Shovel, continued</font>
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<div dir=3D"auto">I bolted mine right to the rad.
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<div dir=3D"auto">Larry Paterson</div>
<div dir=3D"auto">BN7 , 100M</div>
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<div class=3D"x_gmail_quote">On Oct. 31, 2019 5:07 p.m., Steven Kingsbury v=
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<div>What? The fan was less than an inch (2.54 centimeters) away from the r=
adiator core, can't get much closer than that and like I said, I solved the=
 problem I had another way.&nbsp; How close should you mount a fan to not l=
et air escape?&nbsp;</div>
<div>S</div>
<div><br>
On October 31, 2019 at 1:24 PM, Kees Oudesluijs &lt;coudesluijs@chello.nl&g=
t; wrote:<br>
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<p>This fan cannot work properly because it is to far away from the core an=
d air escapes from the space between fan and core.</p>
<p>Kees Oudesluijs</p>
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</p>
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<div>Op 31-10-2019 om 18:17 schreef Steven Kingsbury via Healeys:<br>
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<div>Patrick,</div>
<div>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Here are a couple of shots of my car back in 2007 wh=
en I installed an electric fan to help with cooling. As you can see, it was=
 quite easy as nothing was in the way! The fan didn't help though and I fou=
nd another solution to that problem, but like I
 said, lots of room in there!</div>
<div>Steven</div>
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