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John, I could not agree with more with everything you have said.
Concours may not be for everyone but to characterize it as "bullshit" is a
profound insult to the dozens of dedicated individuals who believe in the
accurate preservation of the marque.
For years I found Kees contributions to this list to be consistently
simplistic and generic and was very gratified to find that Gmail provides
an easy way to block his drivel.
M
On Thu, Dec 12, 2019, 11:27 AM John P. New, <jnew@hazelden.ca> wrote:
> Kees,
>
> Your statement, "All this concourse stuff is bullshit," really makes me
> angry.
>
> I have been a member of this list for almost twenty years and I have seen
> you write some really inaccurate things about Healeys but this takes the
> cake. Indeed, even the late Richard Chrysler once told you on this list to
> keep your uninformed opinions on Austin-Healeys to yourself.
>
> The Concours Guidelines (and *please* spell concours properly) is one of
> the few secondary sources of information that can help in the preservation
> and restoration of an Austin-Healey. I would say that in many ways it is
> THE BEST secondary source because it is updated annually as new information
> is gathered. No publication is without errors, so even great books by such
> authors as Clausager or Moment & Anderson do contain factual inaccuracies
> that may mislead a restoration. (To be fair to Moment & Anderson, they keep
> a list of errata for their book, available for the asking)
>
> If you think Concours is about trailer queens and awards, then you just
> have no clue why the organization exists. To quote the very first sentence
> of the Austin-Healey Concours Registry Organization, Policies and
> Inspection Guidelines,
>
> "The Austin-Healey Concours Registry was created by members from a number
> of Austin-Healey clubs in North America to assist owners in restoring their
> cars to original standards and to encourage the restoration and maintenance
> of original cars."
>
> This sums up the entire mission of the Registry. Please note that the word
> "bullshit" does not appear there nor anywhere else in the publication.
>
> So, following in the footsteps of Richard Chrysler: Kees, please keep your
> baseless, uninformed opinions on Austin-Healeys to yourself.
>
> John P. New
> London, Ontario, Canada
>
>
> On Thursday, December 12, 2019 2:35:33 AM EST Kees Oudesluijs wrote:
> > That looks very neat and tidy. Time to get it dirty. However fit some
> > air filters in a cold box first. Avoid the foam affairs because of
> > severe fire risk. These cars are for driving. All this concourse stuff
> > is bullshit. Use them, make them safe to drive in modern traffic and
> > enjoy them. We have friends that use their A-H cars as a daily driver
> > and rebuild the car every so often if and when extensive repairs are
> > needed.
> >
> > To many concourse trailer queens about that may not even be fit for
> driving.
> >
> > Kees Oudesluijs
> >
> >
> >
> > Op 12-12-2019 om 04:05 schreef richard mayor:
> > > The 1960 BT7 that I have been working on is not concours. I can't go
> > > into details right now but here's a photo of the engine compartment.
> > >
> > > DSCN4470 (1).jpg
> > >
> > >
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<div dir=3D"auto">John, I could not agree with more with everything you hav=
e said.=C2=A0<div dir=3D"auto">Concours may not be for everyone but to char=
acterize it as "bullshit" is a profound insult to the dozens of d=
edicated individuals who believe in the accurate preservation of the marque=
.</div><div dir=3D"auto">For years I found Kees contributions to this list =
to be consistently simplistic and generic and was very gratified to find th=
at Gmail provides an easy way to block his drivel.=C2=A0</div><div dir=3D"a=
uto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">M</div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote=
"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Thu, Dec 12, 2019, 11:27 AM John=
P. New, <<a href=3D"mailto:jnew@hazelden.ca";>jnew@hazelden.ca</a>> w=
rote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex=
;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Kees,<br>
<br>
Your statement, "All this concourse stuff is bullshit," really ma=
kes me angry.<br>
<br>
I have been a member of this list for almost twenty years and I have seen y=
ou write some really inaccurate things about Healeys but this takes the cak=
e. Indeed, even the late Richard Chrysler once told you on this list to kee=
p your uninformed opinions on Austin-Healeys to yourself.<br>
<br>
The Concours Guidelines (and *please* spell concours properly) is one of th=
e few secondary sources of information that can help in the preservation an=
d restoration of an Austin-Healey. I would say that in many ways it is THE =
BEST secondary source because it is updated annually as new information is =
gathered. No publication is without errors, so even great books by such aut=
hors as Clausager or Moment & Anderson do contain factual inaccuracies =
that may mislead a restoration. (To be fair to Moment & Anderson, they =
keep a list of errata for their book, available for the asking)<br>
<br>
If you think Concours is about trailer queens and awards, then you just hav=
e no clue why the organization exists. To quote the very first sentence of =
the Austin-Healey Concours Registry Organization, Policies and Inspection G=
uidelines,<br>
<br>
"The Austin-Healey Concours Registry was created by members from a num=
ber of Austin-Healey clubs in North America to assist owners in restoring t=
heir cars to original standards and to encourage the restoration and mainte=
nance of original cars."<br>
<br>
This sums up the entire mission of the Registry. Please note that the word =
"bullshit" does not appear there nor anywhere else in the publica=
tion.<br>
<br>
So, following in the footsteps of Richard Chrysler: Kees, please keep your =
baseless, uninformed opinions on Austin-Healeys to yourself.<br>
<br>
John P. New<br>
London, Ontario, Canada<br>
<br>
<br>
On Thursday, December 12, 2019 2:35:33 AM EST Kees Oudesluijs wrote:<br>
> That looks very neat and tidy. Time to get it dirty. However fit some =
<br>
> air filters in a cold box first. Avoid the foam affairs because of <br=
>
> severe fire risk. These cars are for driving. All this concourse stuff=
<br>
> is bullshit. Use them, make them safe to drive in modern traffic and <=
br>
> enjoy them. We have friends that use their A-H cars as a daily driver =
<br>
> and rebuild the car every so often if and when extensive repairs are <=
br>
> needed.<br>
> <br>
> To many concourse trailer queens about that may not even be fit for dr=
iving.<br>
> <br>
> Kees Oudesluijs<br>
> <br>
> <br>
> <br>
> Op 12-12-2019 om 04:05 schreef richard mayor:<br>
> > The 1960 BT7 that I have been working on is not concours. I can&#=
39;t go <br>
> > into details right now but here's a photo of the engine compa=
rtment.<br>
> ><br>
> > DSCN4470 (1).jpg<br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> > _______________________________________________<br>
> > Support Team.Net <a href=3D"http://www.team.net/donate.html"; rel=
=3D"noreferrer noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">http://www.team.net/donate.htm=
l</a><br>
> > Suggested annual donation=C2=A0 $12.75<br>
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