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Subject: Re: [Healeys] Oil Pressure and replacing the oil pump
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Me too. DW =E2=80=9CHigh Capacity=E2=80=9D type pump which is their =
version of the older =E2=80=9Crotor=E2=80=9D type pump. It does a good =
job.

The newer pumps are =E2=80=9CGear=E2=80=9D type.

I gathered, from people who know about these things, that the High =
Capacity is best all round and the Rotor only comes into its own at high =
revs.

(All of which begs the question as to why BMC switched from one to =
t=E2=80=99other!)

As to County, don=E2=80=99t know if they=E2=80=99ve attempted an oil =
pump. Their water pump is an inferior item, for sure. I studied =
Michaels=E2=80=99 blog on the topic and stripping down both original =
types and one County absolutely confirms what he says.

Simon

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From: Healeys <healeys-bounces@autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Bruce Steele
Sent: 30 December 2019 16:53
To: 'Michael Salter' <michaelsalter@gmail.com>; 'Robert Begani' =
<rfbegani@gmail.com>
Cc: healeys@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Oil Pressure and replacing the oil pump

=20

I installed Denis Welch push rods, along with the DWR-1 cam and hollow =
lifters, when my engine was done.  I also run a DWR high capacity oil =
pump.  I run around 40 pounds at speed.

=20

Bruce Steele

Brea, CA

1960 BN7

=20

From: Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of =
Michael Salter
Sent: Monday, December 30, 2019 6:20 AM
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Oil Pressure and replacing the oil pump

=20

Hi Robert, you are the second person that I have heard of who had that =
problem with "cheapo repo" push rods.

It seems that those that are currently available are produced with too =
small a diameter of the cup so they seize on the rocker ball and break =
off.

I would recommend that you inspect all the rocker ball ends carefully =
then install a set of good used push rods to prevent further problems.=20

=20

M

=20

BTW depending upon who supplied the bad parts you may be able to recover =
the costs involved.

=20

On Mon, Dec 30, 2019, 12:55 AM Robert Begani, <rfbegani@gmail.com =

When I rebuilt the engine last year I did not replace the oil pump =
because I had good oil pressure.  Currently, from time to time, while =
breaking in the engine I am driving the car round trip 20-30 miles down =
the Tamiami Trail which is an open road for that stretch..  On a recent =
trip, the weather was cool, so the oil pressure was running 35 to 40 psi =
while the engine temperature was going up to 180 at 3000 rpm.  At 4000 =
rpm the temperature climbed over 180 degrees and the oil pressure =
dropped below 30 psi. .  I am considering replacing the oil pump and =
remember that there is a discussion about the quality of Moss pumps.  =
Maybe I should buy the rebuild kit and change gears?

=20

Oh by the way, on the last run all hell broke loose and had the car =
towed home.  Seems the mushroom on top of one of the push rods broke.  =
So I am replacing all 12 of them.

=20

Regards,

=20

Bob Begani

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vlink=3Dpurple><div class=3DWordSection1><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-fareast-la=
nguage:EN-US'>Me too. DW =E2=80=9CHigh Capacity=E2=80=9D type pump which =
is their version of the older =E2=80=9Crotor=E2=80=9D type pump. It does =
a good job.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-fareast-la=
nguage:EN-US'>The newer pumps are =E2=80=9CGear=E2=80=9D =
type.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-fareast-la=
nguage:EN-US'>I gathered, from people who know about these things, that =
the High Capacity is best all round and the Rotor only comes into its =
own at high revs.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-fareast-la=
nguage:EN-US'>(All of which begs the question as to why BMC switched =
from one to t=E2=80=99other!)<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-fareast-la=
nguage:EN-US'>As to County, don=E2=80=99t know if they=E2=80=99ve =
attempted an oil pump. Their water pump is an inferior item, for sure. I =
studied Michaels=E2=80=99 blog on the topic and stripping down both =
original types and one County absolutely confirms what he =
says.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-fareast-la=
nguage:EN-US'>Simon<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-fareast-la=
nguage:EN-US'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><div><div =
style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm =
0cm 0cm'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>From:</span><=
/b><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> Healeys =
&lt;healeys-bounces@autox.team.net&gt; <b>On Behalf Of </b>Bruce =
Steele<br><b>Sent:</b> 30 December 2019 16:53<br><b>To:</b> 'Michael =
Salter' &lt;michaelsalter@gmail.com&gt;; 'Robert Begani' =
&lt;rfbegani@gmail.com&gt;<br><b>Cc:</b> =
healeys@autox.team.net<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys] Oil Pressure and =
replacing the oil pump<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
lang=3DEN-US style=3D'font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif'>I installed =
Denis Welch push rods, along with the DWR-1 cam and hollow lifters, when =
my engine was done.&nbsp; I also run a DWR high capacity oil pump.&nbsp; =
I run around 40 pounds at speed.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US style=3D'font-family:"Trebuchet =
MS",sans-serif'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
lang=3DEN-US style=3D'font-family:"Trebuchet =
MS",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>Bruce Steele<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US style=3D'font-family:"Trebuchet =
MS",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>Brea, CA<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US style=3D'font-family:"Trebuchet =
MS",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>1960 BN7<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US style=3D'font-family:"Trebuchet =
MS",sans-serif'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><b><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>From:</span><=
/b><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> Healeys [<a =
href=3D"mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net";>mailto:healeys-bounces@aut=
ox.team.net</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Michael Salter<br><b>Sent:</b> =
Monday, December 30, 2019 6:20 AM<br><b>To:</b> Robert Begani &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:rfbegani@gmail.com";>rfbegani@gmail.com</a>&gt;<br><b>Cc:</=
b> <a =
href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net";>healeys@autox.team.net</a><br><b>S=
ubject:</b> Re: [Healeys] Oil Pressure and replacing the oil =
pump<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US>Hi Robert, you are the second =
person that I have heard of who had that problem with &quot;cheapo =
repo&quot; push rods.<o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US>It seems that those that are =
currently available are produced with too small a diameter of the cup so =
they seize on the rocker ball and break =
off.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
lang=3DEN-US>I would recommend that you inspect all the rocker ball ends =
carefully then install a set of good used push rods to prevent further =
problems.&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
lang=3DEN-US>M<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US>BTW depending upon who supplied the =
bad parts you may be able to recover the costs =
involved.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US>On Mon, Dec 30, 2019, 12:55 AM =
Robert Begani, &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:rfbegani@gmail.com";>rfbegani@gmail.com</a>&gt; =
wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><blockquote =
style=3D'border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm =
6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:5=
.0pt'><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
lang=3DEN-US style=3D'font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>When I rebuilt the =
engine last year I did not replace the oil pump because I had good oil =
pressure.&nbsp; Currently, from time to time, while breaking in the =
engine I am driving the car round trip 20-30 miles down the Tamiami =
Trail which is an open road for that stretch..&nbsp; On a recent trip, =
the weather was cool, so the oil pressure was running 35 to 40 psi while =
the engine temperature was going up to 180 at 3000 rpm.&nbsp; At 4000 =
rpm the temperature climbed over 180 degrees and the oil pressure =
dropped below 30 psi. .&nbsp; I am considering replacing the oil pump =
and remember that there is a discussion about the quality of Moss =
pumps.&nbsp; Maybe I should buy the rebuild kit and change =
gears?</span><span lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
lang=3DEN-US style=3D'font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>&nbsp;</span><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
lang=3DEN-US style=3D'font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>Oh by the way, on =
the last run all hell broke loose and had the car towed home.&nbsp; =
Seems the mushroom on top of one of the push rods broke.&nbsp; So I am =
replacing all 12 of them.</span><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
lang=3DEN-US style=3D'font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>&nbsp;</span><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>Regards,</span><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
lang=3DEN-US style=3D'font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>&nbsp;</span><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
lang=3DEN-US style=3D'font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>Bob =
Begani</span><span lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p =
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