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Subject: Re: [Healeys] Tie Rod End Slotted Nuts
From: Kees Oudesluijs <coudesluijs@chello.nl>
Date: Sat, 4 Jan 2020 18:19:52 +0100
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M11 is not a standard metric size. Extremely unlikely you will ever come 
across this thread anywhere.

Standard is either M10x1,5 or M12x1,75.

15TPI gives 1,69 mm per thread so the M12 die could loosely fit the stud.

M11x1,0 or M11x1,5 is very rarely used as a repair thread when an M12 
stud/bolt or an M10 tap hole or nut is damaged and cannot be replaced or 
the thread is used in a very specific construction where bolts/nuts are 
calculated to the limit or other engineering purposes.

What you have is probably one of the many 7/16" diameter British or 
Unified threads.

Kees Oudesluijs



Op 4-1-2020 om 16:52 schreef Charles Schott:
> The thread count appears to be 15 TPI. I have a 14 and a 16 TPI gage 
> and it's between those two. Since a 12M X 1.5 die runs all the way 
> down the threads, albeit loosely, and a 10M X 1.5 tap goes all the way 
> through the slotted nut, again very loose, I think that it's metric. 
> The diameter measures 10.97 MM with calipers and converted. I have not 
> been able to find a 11M X 1.5 nut, let alone a slotted one. I have 
> three of them but need three more.
>
> Regards,
>
> Charlie
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> *From: *"Harold Manifold" <manifold@telus.net>
> *To: *"Charles Schott" <schottc@knology.net>, "Michael Salter" 
> <michaelsalter@gmail.com>
> *Cc: *"Healeys" <healeys@autox.team.net>
> *Sent: *Friday, January 3, 2020 6:27:29 PM
> *Subject: *RE: [Healeys] Tie Rod End Slotted Nuts
>
> Charles,
> What is the thread per inch count and the major thread diameter of the 
> ball joint (measure with a vernier or micrometer)?
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> *From:* Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net] *On Behalf Of 
> *Charles Schott
> *Sent:* Friday, January 03, 2020 3:36 PM
> *To:* Michael Salter
> *Cc:* Healeys
> *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] Tie Rod End Slotted Nuts
>
> My car is CE# 226706 and I have a limited set of BSF taps and dies and 
> none of them come close.
>
> The 12M X 1.5 die goes loosely all the way down over the stud threads. 
> When I measure the diameter of the stud threads, they measure 10.97 
> mm. You tell me what I have.
>
> Regards,
>
> Charlie
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> *From: *"Michael Salter" <michaelsalter@gmail.com>
> *To: *"Charles Schott" <schottc@knology.net>
> *Cc: *"Michael MacLean" <rrengineer.mike@att.net>, "Healeys" 
> <healeys@autox.team.net>
> *Sent: *Friday, January 3, 2020 3:32:01 PM
> *Subject: *Re: [Healeys] Tie Rod End Slotted Nuts
>
> Charlie,
> If your car is prior to C.E.#228931 the castellated nuts for the 
> original side and center rod ends will be part #2K3996 which I think 
> is 7/16" BSF, (I don't have one to hand to check)  however many of 
> these ball joints have been replaced with the later UNF style over the 
> years and they use FNZ307 7/16" UNF.
>
> M
>
>
>
>
> On Fri, Jan 3, 2020 at 4:09 PM Charles Schott <schottc@knology.net 
>
>     I need three slotted nuts for the original tie rod ends on a BN1.
>     They appear to be metric 11M X 1.5 but I cannot find them. Does
>     anyone have them or know where I can get them? Thanks.
>
>     Regards,
>
>     Charlie
>
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    <p>M11 is not a standard metric size. Extremely unlikely you will
      ever come across this thread anywhere. <br>
    </p>
    <p>Standard is either M10x1,5 or M12x1,75. <br>
    </p>
    <p>15TPI gives 1,69 mm per thread so the M12 die could loosely fit
      the stud. <br>
    </p>
    <p>M11x1,0 or M11x1,5 is very rarely used as a repair thread when an
      M12 stud/bolt or an M10 tap hole or nut is damaged and cannot be
      replaced or the thread is used in a very specific construction
      where bolts/nuts are calculated to the limit or other engineering
      purposes.</p>
    <p>What you have is probably one of the many 7/16" diameter British
      or Unified threads.  <br>
    </p>
    <p>Kees Oudesluijs</p>
    <p><br>
    </p>
    <p><br>
    </p>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Op 4-1-2020 om 16:52 schreef Charles
      Schott:<br>
    </div>
    <blockquote type="cite"
      cite="mid:46682972.5094380.1578153159707.JavaMail.zimbra@knology.net">
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        <div>The thread count appears to be 15 TPI. I have a 14 and a 16
          TPI gage and it's between those two. Since a 12M X 1.5 die
          runs all the way down the threads, albeit loosely, and a 10M X
          1.5 tap goes all the way through the slotted nut, again very
          loose, I think that it's metric. The diameter measures 10.97
          MM with calipers and converted. I have not been able to find a
          11M X 1.5 nut, let alone a slotted one. I have three of them
          but need three more.</div>
        <div><br>
        </div>
        <div>Regards,</div>
        <div><br>
        </div>
        <div>Charlie </div>
        <div><br>
        </div>
        <hr id="zwchr">
        <div
style="color:#000;font-weight:normal;font-style:normal;text-decoration:none;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;"><b>From:
          </b>"Harold Manifold" <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
            href="mailto:manifold@telus.net";>&lt;manifold@telus.net&gt;</a><br>
          <b>To: </b>"Charles Schott" <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
            href="mailto:schottc@knology.net";>&lt;schottc@knology.net&gt;</a>,
          "Michael Salter" <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
            
href="mailto:michaelsalter@gmail.com";>&lt;michaelsalter@gmail.com&gt;</a><br>
          <b>Cc: </b>"Healeys" <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
            
href="mailto:healeys@autox.team.net";>&lt;healeys@autox.team.net&gt;</a><br>
          <b>Sent: </b>Friday, January 3, 2020 6:27:29 PM<br>
          <b>Subject: </b>RE: [Healeys] Tie Rod End Slotted Nuts<br>
          <div><br>
          </div>
          <div dir="ltr" align="left"><span class="358172400-04012020"><span
                color="#0000ff" size="2" face="Arial"
                data-mce-style="color: #0000ff; font-family: Arial;
                font-size: small;" style="color: #0000ff; font-family:
                Arial; font-size: small;">Charles,</span></span></div>
          <div dir="ltr" align="left"><span class="358172400-04012020"><span
                color="#0000ff" size="2" face="Arial"
                data-mce-style="color: #0000ff; font-family: Arial;
                font-size: small;" style="color: #0000ff; font-family:
                Arial; font-size: small;"></span></span> </div>
          <div dir="ltr" align="left"><span class="358172400-04012020"><span
                color="#0000ff" size="2" face="Arial"
                data-mce-style="color: #0000ff; font-family: Arial;
                font-size: small;" style="color: #0000ff; font-family:
                Arial; font-size: small;">What is the thread per
                inch count and the major thread diameter of the ball
                joint (measure with a vernier or 
micrometer)?</span></span></div>
          <br>
          <div class="OutlookMessageHeader" dir="ltr" lang="en-us"
            align="left">
            <hr> <span size="2" face="Tahoma"
              data-mce-style="font-family: Tahoma; font-size: small;"
              style="font-family: Tahoma; font-size: small;"><b>From:</b>
              Healeys [<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
                
href="mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net";>mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net</a>]
              <b>On Behalf Of </b>Charles Schott<br>
              <b>Sent:</b> Friday, January 03, 2020 3:36 PM<br>
              <b>To:</b> Michael Salter<br>
              <b>Cc:</b> Healeys<br>
              <b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys] Tie Rod End Slotted Nuts<br>
            </span><br>
          </div>
          <div style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new
            york, times, serif; COLOR: #000000">
            <div>My car is CE# 226706 and I have a limited set of BSF
              taps and dies and none of them come close.</div>
            <div><br>
            </div>
            <div>The 12M X 1.5 die goes loosely all the way down over
              the stud threads. When I measure the diameter of the stud
              threads, they measure 10.97 mm. You tell me what I have.</div>
            <div><br>
            </div>
            <div>Regards,</div>
            <div><br>
            </div>
            <div>Charlie</div>
            <div><br>
            </div>
            <hr id="zwchr">
            <div style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; TEXT-DECORATION: none;
              FONT-FAMILY: Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif; FONT-WEIGHT:
              normal; COLOR: #000; FONT-STYLE: normal"><b>From: </b>"Michael
              Salter" <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
                
href="mailto:michaelsalter@gmail.com";>&lt;michaelsalter@gmail.com&gt;</a><br>
              <b>To: </b>"Charles Schott" <a
                class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
                
href="mailto:schottc@knology.net";>&lt;schottc@knology.net&gt;</a><br>
              <b>Cc: </b>"Michael MacLean" <a
                class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
                
href="mailto:rrengineer.mike@att.net";>&lt;rrengineer.mike@att.net&gt;</a>,
              "Healeys" <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
                
href="mailto:healeys@autox.team.net";>&lt;healeys@autox.team.net&gt;</a><br>
              <b>Sent: </b>Friday, January 3, 2020 3:32:01 PM<br>
              <b>Subject: </b>Re: [Healeys] Tie Rod End Slotted Nuts<br>
              <div><br>
              </div>
              <div dir="ltr">
                <div class="gmail_default" style="FONT-SIZE: small;
                  FONT-FAMILY: comic sans ms,sans-serif">Charlie, <br>
                </div>
                <div class="gmail_default" style="FONT-SIZE: small;
                  FONT-FAMILY: comic sans ms,sans-serif">If your car is
                  prior to C.E.#228931 the castellated nuts for the
                  original side and center rod ends will be part #2K3996
                  which I think is 7/16" BSF, (I don't have one to hand
                  to check)  however many of these ball joints have been
                  replaced with the later UNF style over the years and
                  they use FNZ307 7/16" UNF.</div>
                <div class="gmail_default" style="FONT-SIZE: small;
                  FONT-FAMILY: comic sans ms,sans-serif"><br>
                </div>
                <div class="gmail_default" style="FONT-SIZE: small;
                  FONT-FAMILY: comic sans ms,sans-serif">M<br>
                </div>
                <div class="gmail_default" style="FONT-SIZE: small;
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                </div>
                <div class="gmail_default" style="FONT-SIZE: small;
                  FONT-FAMILY: comic sans ms,sans-serif"><br>
                </div>
                <div class="gmail_default" style="FONT-SIZE: small;
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              <br>
              <div class="gmail_quote">
                <div class="gmail_attr" dir="ltr">On Fri, Jan 3, 2020 at
                  4:09 PM Charles Schott &lt;<a
                    href="mailto:schottc@knology.net"; target="_blank"
                    moz-do-not-send="true">schottc@knology.net</a>&gt;
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                      roman,new york,times,serif; COLOR: rgb(0,0,0)">
                      <div>I need three slotted nuts for the original
                        tie rod ends on a BN1. They appear to be metric
                        11M X 1.5 but I cannot find them. Does anyone
                        have them or know where I can get them? Thanks.</div>
                      <div><br>
                      </div>
                      <div>Regards,</div>
                      <div><br>
                      </div>
                      <div>Charlie</div>
                      <div><br>
                      </div>
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