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To: Michael Oritt <michael.oritt@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Over heating and adding additional core tubes to theexisting radiator
From: Chris Dimmock <austin.healey@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2020 12:09:31 +1100
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Same.=20
Wrapped my steel headers in 1995.=20
No issues to date with them.=20
Replaced mufflers twice, but that's a road abrasion issue due to my lack of g=
round clearance...
Best
Chris


> On 15 Jan 2020, at 10:04 am, Michael Oritt <michael.oritt@gmail.com> wrote=
:
>=20
> Robert--
>=20
> I'm sure you'll hear you should definitely NOT wrap the exhaust system wit=
h lagging as it will cause its early demise due to rust. =20
> I was told that 18 years ago and didn't listen--my steel headers are still=
 intact.  =20
>=20
> Best--Michael Oritt
>=20
>> On Tue, Jan 14, 2020 at 1:07 PM warthodson--- via Healeys <healeys@autox.=
team.net> wrote:
>> I am jumping in on this subject a bit late, so I do not know if Bob has a=
 thermostat that incorporates a moving sleeve for the bypass or not. Either t=
hat type of thermostat or a fixed blanking sleeve for the bypass would be es=
sential for this climate. Or any climate for that matter. =20
>>=20
>>=20
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Robert Begani <rfbegani@gmail.com>
>> To: 'Perry' <healeyguy@aol.com>
>> Cc: healeys <healeys@autox.team.net>
>> Sent: Tue, Jan 14, 2020 11:27 am
>> Subject: Re: [Healeys] Over heating and adding additional core tubes to t=
heexisting radiator
>>=20
>> I agree with you, however, this is south Florida where a cool winter day i=
s today, where the temperature is currently 79 degrees and rising to a high o=
f 83 degrees with a se wind at 7 mph.  Great for a day sail on the Harbor wh=
ich I will do in the next hour.  However, it does make driving a hot car fun=
. There is not enough cooling capacity in the stock radiator to handle hot c=
limates and have to stop and go because the temperature does not go down onl=
y up.  So the next step is to re-core the radiator.  The local radiator guy k=
nows the problem and for $500 will provide new core using the old tanks whic=
h will give at least 50% more cooling capacity.  This is a SKI purchase.  Sp=
end the Kids Inheritance.  Then I will think about wrapping the exhaust mani=
folds and headers to stop vapor lock.
>> =20
>> What do you think about Push and Pull?  Take off the engine fan?
>> =20
>> By the way, I know the engine machine shop boiled out, oil bathed, everyt=
hing in the engine during his machining of the engine to bring it up to spec=
ifications.  He knows what to do.  The only modification is the 20 over pist=
ons.=20
>> =20
>> Why do other Healey=E2=80=99s with a stock radiator not have this problem=
, who knows?
>> =20
>> Bob
>> =20
>> From: Perry <healeyguy@aol.com>=20
>> Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2020 11:47 AM
>> To: Robert Begani <rfbegani@gmail.com>
>> Subject: RE: [Healeys] Over heating and adding additional core tubes to t=
heexisting radiator
>> =20
>> Bob
>> With the extras that you have added to facilitate the airflow the car sho=
uld be running much cooler than 212, even with a stock radiator. There is so=
mething else amiss in the equation.
>> Perry
>> =20
>> Sent from Mail for Windows 10
>> =20
>> From: Robert Begani
>> Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2020 11:23 AM
>> To: 'Perry'
>> Subject: RE: [Healeys] Over heating and adding additional core tubes to t=
heexisting radiator
>> =20
>> Hi Perry:
>> =20
>> I do not remember the CFM, however, it is the Hayden Fan offered by Moss w=
ith the largest diameter to fit the radiator.  As a pusher it really pushes a=
ir through the engine compartment at low speeds and standing still. I still h=
ave an original Texas 6 blade fan on the engine.  As I was searching overhea=
ting problems, one reference indicated that is not recommended as they act a=
gainst each other.
>> =20
>> Bob
>> =20
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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3D=
utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto"><div></div><div>Same.&nbsp;</div><div>Wrapp=
ed my steel headers in 1995.&nbsp;</div><div>No issues to date with them.&nb=
sp;</div><div>Replaced mufflers twice, but that's a road abrasion issue due t=
o my lack of ground clearance...</div><div>Best</div><div>Chris</div><div><b=
r></div><div><br>On 15 Jan 2020, at 10:04 am, Michael Oritt &lt;<a href=3D"m=
ailto:michael.oritt@gmail.com">michael.oritt@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br><br=
></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div><div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_d=
efault" style=3D"color:#3333ff">Robert--</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" s=
tyle=3D"color:#3333ff"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color=
:#3333ff">I'm sure you'll hear you should definitely NOT wrap the exhaust sy=
stem with lagging as it will cause its early&nbsp;demise due to rust.&nbsp;&=
nbsp;</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:#3333ff">I was told t=
hat&nbsp;18 years ago and didn't listen--my steel headers are still intact.&=
nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:#3333=
ff"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:#3333ff">Best--Mic=
hael Oritt</div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D=
"gmail_attr">On Tue, Jan 14, 2020 at 1:07 PM warthodson--- via Healeys &lt;<=
a href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net";>healeys@autox.team.net</a>&gt; wrot=
e:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.=
8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
<div style=3D"color:black;font:10pt arial">
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<div>
<div style=3D"color:black;font:10pt arial">I am jumping in on this subject a=
 bit late, so I do not know if Bob has a thermostat that incorporates a movi=
ng sleeve for the bypass or not. Either that type of thermostat or a fixed b=
lanking sleeve for the bypass would be essential for this climate. Or any cl=
imate for that matter.&nbsp;&nbsp;<br clear=3D"none">
<br clear=3D"none">
<br clear=3D"none">


<div style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica;font-size:10pt;color:black">-----O=
riginal Message-----<br clear=3D"none">
From: Robert Begani &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:rfbegani@gmail.com"; target=3D"_bla=
nk">rfbegani@gmail.com</a>&gt;<br clear=3D"none">
To: 'Perry' &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:healeyguy@aol.com"; target=3D"_blank">heale=
yguy@aol.com</a>&gt;<br clear=3D"none">
Cc: healeys &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank">=
healeys@autox.team.net</a>&gt;<br clear=3D"none">
Sent: Tue, Jan 14, 2020 11:27 am<br clear=3D"none">
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Over heating and adding additional core tubes to thee=
xisting radiator<br clear=3D"none">
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<div id=3D"gmail-m_-4359560931621364984yiv1047233329yqt90724">
<div id=3D"gmail-m_-4359560931621364984yiv1047233329">

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<div>

<div><span style=3D"font-size:12pt">I agree with you, however, this is south=
 Florida where a cool winter day is today, where the temperature is currentl=
y 79 degrees and rising to a high of 83 degrees with a se wind at 7 mph.&nbs=
p; Great for a day sail on the Harbor which I will do in the next hour.&nbsp=
; However, it does make driving a hot car fun. There is not enough cooling c=
apacity in the stock radiator to handle hot climates and have to stop and go=
 because the temperature does not go down only up.&nbsp; So the next step is=
 to re-core the radiator.&nbsp; The local radiator guy knows the problem and=
 for $500 will provide new core using the old tanks which will give at least=
 50% more cooling capacity.&nbsp; This is a SKI purchase.&nbsp; Spend the Ki=
ds Inheritance.&nbsp; Then I will think about wrapping the exhaust manifolds=
 and headers to stop vapor lock.</span></div>



<div><span style=3D"font-size:12pt"> &nbsp;</span></div>



<div><span style=3D"font-size:12pt">What do you think about Push and Pull?&n=
bsp; Take off the engine fan?</span></div>



<div><span style=3D"font-size:12pt"> &nbsp;</span></div>



<div><span style=3D"font-size:12pt">By the way, I know the engine machine sh=
op boiled out, oil bathed, everything in the engine during his machining of t=
he engine to bring it up to specifications.&nbsp; He knows what to do.&nbsp;=
 The only modification is the 20 over pistons.&nbsp; </span></div>



<div><span style=3D"font-size:12pt"> &nbsp;</span></div>



<div><span style=3D"font-size:12pt">Why do other Healey=E2=80=99s with a sto=
ck radiator not have this problem, who knows?</span></div>



<div><span style=3D"font-size:12pt"> &nbsp;</span></div>



<div><span style=3D"font-size:12pt">Bob </span></div>



<div><span style=3D"font-size:12pt"> &nbsp;</span></div>



<div>

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op:1pt solid rgb(225,225,225);padding:3pt 0in 0in">

<div><b>From:</b> Perry &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:healeyguy@aol.com"; target=3D"_=
blank">healeyguy@aol.com</a>&gt; <br clear=3D"none">
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, January 14, 2020 11:47 AM<br clear=3D"none">
<b>To:</b> Robert Begani &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:rfbegani@gmail.com"; target=3D=
"_blank">rfbegani@gmail.com</a>&gt;<br clear=3D"none">
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [Healeys] Over heating and adding additional core tubes t=
o theexisting radiator</div>

</div>

</div>



<div> &nbsp;</div>



<div>Bob</div>



<div>With the extras that you have added to facilitate the airflow the car s=
hould be running much cooler than 212, even with a stock radiator. There is s=
omething else amiss in the equation. </div>



<div>Perry</div>



<div> &nbsp;</div>



<div>Sent from <a rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect" href=3D"https://go.microso=
ft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=3D550986" target=3D"_blank">Mail</a> for Windows 10</d=
iv>



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op:1pt solid rgb(225,225,225);padding:3pt 0in 0in">

<div><b>From: </b><a rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect" href=3D"mailto:rfbegani=
@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">Robert Begani</a><br clear=3D"none">
<b>Sent: </b>Tuesday, January 14, 2020 11:23 AM<br clear=3D"none">
<b>To: </b><a rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect" href=3D"mailto:healeyguy@aol.c=
om" target=3D"_blank">'Perry'</a><br clear=3D"none">
<b>Subject: </b>RE: [Healeys] Over heating and adding additional core tubes t=
o theexisting radiator</div>

</div>



<div> &nbsp;</div>



<div><span style=3D"font-size:12pt">Hi Perry:</span></div>



<div><span style=3D"font-size:12pt"> &nbsp;</span></div>



<div><span style=3D"font-size:12pt">I do not remember the CFM, however, it i=
s the Hayden Fan offered by Moss with the largest diameter to fit the radiat=
or.&nbsp; As a pusher it really pushes air through the engine compartment at=
 low speeds and standing still. I still have an original Texas 6 blade fan o=
n the engine.&nbsp; As I was searching overheating problems, one reference i=
ndicated that is not recommended as they act against each other.</span></div=
>



<div><span style=3D"font-size:12pt"> &nbsp;</span></div>



<div><span style=3D"font-size:12pt">Bob</span></div>



<div> &nbsp;</div>

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