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Re: [Healeys] Michelin 180/ R15 XAS tires Fill up the wheel well too muc

To: Robert Begani <rfbegani@gmail.com>, 'richard mayor' <boyracer466@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Michelin 180/ R15 XAS tires Fill up the wheel well too much and rub on late 67 BJ8
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Thread-topic: [Healeys] Michelin 180/ R15 XAS tires Fill up the wheel well too much and rub on late 67 BJ8
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I put a set of Vreidestein 185 HR15s on my BN1 and had no trouble with clea=
rance in the rear, but the fronts both rubbed on the upper wheel openings. =
The taller tires were a big help with ground clearance, but I had to go sma=
ller because of the smaller wheel openings on the BN1. I sold those tires t=
o after dinner for his Mk II  Jaguar and bought 175-70R 15s. I should have =
gone with 165-HR 15s instead, but these will do for the time being.
________________________________
From: Healeys <healeys-bounces@autox.team.net> on behalf of Robert Begani <=
rfbegani@gmail.com>
Sent: Friday, February 21, 2020 8:23:39 AM
To: 'richard mayor' <boyracer466@gmail.com>
Cc: healeys@autox.team.net <healeys@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Michelin 180/ R15 XAS tires Fill up the wheel well t=
oo much and rub on late 67 BJ8


Richard,



My friend the machinist, rigger, etc. came over this morning to help me mea=
sure the centering of the differential/axel and found everything within 1/8=
th of an inch. In addition, we inspected the bushings on the radius arm,  w=
hich controls the fore and aft motion of the axel (the Panhard controls the=
 side to side motion),  and everything else. All are solid.   Eventhough th=
e radius arm bolts sticking out into the wheels are not rubbing the tires, =
I will cut of the heads of the bolts and glue a plastic/rubber cap over the=
m.  The only rubbing is the edge of the dogleg on the right hand side, so I=
 will be careful not to make hard left turns until I discuss rolling the ed=
ge of the dogleg with a body repair expert.  There are a few items that nee=
d touching up and paint on the body 30 years after the on frame restoration=
.



In addition, I was questioning the tire pressure and asked long stone tyres=
 in the U.K. where I bought the tires   there response: In terms of pressur=
e, I think you are in the ball park with 30psi, I would have no problem wit=
h you going up a bit from there but wouldn=92t recommend any more than 36-3=
8.



Regarding the rubbing, It is an issue we come across from time to time as a=
ll these cars are virtually hand built and many have had work done over the=
 years, I don=92t know them well enough but is possible to adjust where the=
 axle sits, ie move it slightly to the other side?





I found the right rear tire was actually only 28 psi so I will increase the=
 pressure to 32 Psi on all wheels and drive the car for another hundred mil=
es or more to see what happens.



Thanks to everyone for your comments.



Bob Begani

From: richard mayor <boyracer466@gmail.com>
Sent: Thursday, February 20, 2020 11:32 AM
To: Robert Begani <rfbegani@gmail.com>
Cc: healeys <healeys@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Michelin 180/ R15 XAS tires Fill up the wheel well t=
oo much and rub on late 67 BJ8



The panhard bar is there to keep the rear axle centered  when cornering. Ch=
eck your panhard bar bushings. I put the Michelin 180 XAS tires on my BT7 l=
ast Spring and I drove it all summer with no rubbing. Even entered the All =
British Field Meet autocross at PIR in September. Drove the car really hard=
 and took first place. No rubbing.





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I put a set of Vreidestein 185 HR15s on my BN1 and had no trouble with clea=
rance in the rear, but the fronts both rubbed on the upper wheel openings. =
The taller tires were a big help with ground clearance, but I had to go sma=
ller because of the smaller wheel
 openings on the BN1. I sold those tires to after dinner for his Mk II&nbsp=
; Jaguar and bought 175-70R 15s. I should have gone with 165-HR 15s instead=
, but these will do for the time being.
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ounces@autox.team.net&gt; on behalf of Robert Begani &lt;rfbegani@gmail.com=
&gt;<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, February 21, 2020 8:23:39 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> 'richard mayor' &lt;boyracer466@gmail.com&gt;<br>
<b>Cc:</b> healeys@autox.team.net &lt;healeys@autox.team.net&gt;<br>
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<p class=3D"x_MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt; font-family:&quot=
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c. came over this morning to help me measure the centering of the different=
ial/axel and found everything within 1/8<sup>th</sup>
 of an inch. In addition, we inspected the bushings on the radius arm, &nbs=
p;which controls the fore and aft motion of the axel (the Panhard controls =
the side to side motion), &nbsp;and everything else. All are solid. &nbsp;&=
nbsp;Eventhough the radius arm bolts sticking out into
 the wheels are not rubbing the tires, I will cut of the heads of the bolts=
 and glue a plastic/rubber cap over them.&nbsp; The only rubbing is the edg=
e of the dogleg on the right hand side, so I will be careful not to make ha=
rd left turns until I discuss rolling
 the edge of the dogleg with a body repair expert.&nbsp; There are a few it=
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 restoration.&nbsp;
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<p class=3D"x_MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt; font-family:&quot=
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tire pressure and asked long stone tyres in the U.K. where I bought the tir=
es&nbsp; &nbsp;there response:</span><span style=3D"color:black">
<span lang=3D"EN-GB">In terms of pressure, I think you are in the ball park=
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<p class=3D"x_MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-GB" style=3D"color:black">Regardi=
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<p class=3D"x_MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt; font-family:&quot=
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ually only 28 psi so I will increase the pressure to 32 Psi on all wheels a=
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<p class=3D"x_MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt; font-family:&quot=
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<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, February 20, 2020 11:32 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Robert Begani &lt;rfbegani@gmail.com&gt;<br>
<b>Cc:</b> healeys &lt;healeys@autox.team.net&gt;<br>
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 well too much and rub on late 67 BJ8</p>
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rubbing. Even entered the All British Field
 Meet autocross at PIR in September. Drove the car really hard and took fir=
st place. No rubbing.
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