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As are you?
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From: Healeys <healeys-bounces@autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Michael =
Oritt
Sent: 03 May 2020 12:18
To: Patrick & Caroline Quinn <p_cquinn@tpg.com.au>
Cc: Austin Healey <healeys@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Oil additives -- great informaton. Thanks.
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"Wouldn=E2=80=99t it make sense if everyone was the same and that the US =
didn=E2=80=99t have its own weights and measures."
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....said by a citizen of a country formerly in the British Empire, some =
of whose standards of weights and measurements depended upon the size of =
its then-ruler's body parts!
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On Sun, May 3, 2020 at 4:24 AM Patrick & Caroline Quinn =
Hello
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How much is a US quart?
=20
Is it a quarter of a US gallon which is 7/8ths of an imperial gallon =
which is equal to 4.54609 litres?
=20
Wouldn=E2=80=99t it make sense if everyone was the same and that the US =
didn=E2=80=99t have its own weights and measures.
=20
Hoo Roo
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Patrick Quinn
Blue Mountains, Australia
74.8 kilometres or 46 =C2=BD miles for Sydney
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From: Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net =
Healeys
Sent: Saturday, 2 May 2020 11:33 PM
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Oil additives -- great informaton. Thanks.
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The best price I could find for Valvoline VR-1 20w50 on Wallmart's site =
was $7.03/quart & it was shipping from "Zoro", who ever that is. The =
next best price was $9.11/quart shipping from Speedway.=20
Gary Hodson
-----Original Message-----
Sent: Fri, May 1, 2020 11:10 pm
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Oil additives -- great informaton. Thanks.
Walmart had no problem shipping me a crap-ton of Valvoline VR-1 20W-50; =
still don't understand why the outfit in the Midwest I bought from =
before refused to ship to me. The Valvoline saga has some strange =
twists, a few years ago my favorite parts house 'had to pull it off the =
shelves;' I never got an explanation there, either. I haven't seen it =
on any parts house shelves since, but as long as Wallymart will ship for =
free @ less than $4/qt I'll be happy.
Bob
On 5/1/2020 10:30 AM, wwycoffbn7--- via Healeys wrote:
Hi,=20
Thanks all. As is usual there is a lot of good discourse and experience =
shared by the list. What triggered my question on oil and oil additives =
was the observation of a bottle of Red Line 10W40 image that did not =
display the usual statement that it contains ZDDP. For decades I have =
used that oil as it carries proper oil pressure, suites the climate, =
etc. However, if Red Line stopped including ZDDP, I would find another =
oil. I also recalled that some time back, Bob Spidell having to find a =
new outlet for Valvoline 20W50 as it seemed that it no longer cleared =
some California rule changes. I wondered it this happened to Red Line.
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So, I sent off an inquiry to Red Line and not getting a rapid response =
sent one to our Healey group. The Healey group was much faster to =
respond. While most business are slowed down by COVID-19, a Red Line =
response did come. The assurance is that Red Line Motor Oil 10W40 (SKU =
11404) contains good ZDDP levels, plenty for an Austin Healey's flat =
tappet cam and lifters; 1225ppm zinc and more importantly 1375ppm =
phosphorus.
As to their break in additive, their Web site indicates that a half =
bottle is enough to add to a conventional oil. It also has bit of =
sulfur, 16.6 grams. I have to wonder if adding it to their 10W40 could =
result in too much. I am just not inclined to experiment.
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The 3000=E2=80=99s owner=E2=80=99s manual only mentions 30 weight oil, =
even for tropical heat. However, the =E2=80=9CWork shop Manual=E2=80=9D =
(the Green Book) has a much more expansive table that promotes a lot of =
weights depending on the manufacturer. The aspect that modern oils are =
a bit different than those available when the book came out adds a bit =
more uncertainty. =20
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I am confident using the 10W40. I used 10W50 in my Triumph, but it was =
an air-cooled engine and was REAL hard to start in freezing weather. =
There were also a lot of reputable recommendations that led me to Red =
Line=E2=80=99s 10W40. The oil pressure is proper, so I don=E2=80=99t =
see an upside for me to use a heavier oil.
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Many thanks to the folks who responded. =20
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Bill
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vlink=3Dpurple><div class=3DWordSection1><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>As are you?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div =
style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm =
0cm 0cm'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span =
lang=3DEN-US>From:</span></b><span lang=3DEN-US> Healeys =
<healeys-bounces@autox.team.net> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Michael =
Oritt<br><b>Sent:</b> 03 May 2020 12:18<br><b>To:</b> Patrick & =
Caroline Quinn <p_cquinn@tpg.com.au><br><b>Cc:</b> Austin Healey =
<healeys@autox.team.net><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys] Oil =
additives -- great informaton. Thanks.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><i><span style=3D'color:#3333FF'>"</span><span =
style=3D'color:#222222'>Wouldn=E2=80=99t it make sense if everyone was =
the same and that the US didn=E2=80=99t have its own weights and =
measures."</span></i><span =
style=3D'color:#3333FF'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'color:#3333FF'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'color:#222222'>....said by a citizen of =
a country formerly in the British Empire, some of whose standards of =
weights and measurements depended upon the size of its then-ruler's body =
parts!</span><span =
style=3D'color:#3333FF'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><br> <o:p></o:p></p></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>On =
Sun, May 3, 2020 at 4:24 AM Patrick & Caroline Quinn <<a =
href=3D"mailto:p_cquinn@tpg.com.au">p_cquinn@tpg.com.au</a>> =
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote =
style=3D'border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm =
6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0cm'><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
lang=3DEN-AU>Hello<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
lang=3DEN-AU> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
lang=3DEN-AU>How much is a US quart?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
lang=3DEN-AU> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
lang=3DEN-AU>Is it a quarter of a US gallon which is 7/8ths of an =
imperial gallon which is equal to 4.54609 =
litres?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
lang=3DEN-AU> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
lang=3DEN-AU>Wouldn=E2=80=99t it make sense if everyone was the same and =
that the US didn=E2=80=99t have its own weights and =
measures.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
lang=3DEN-AU> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
lang=3DEN-AU>Hoo Roo<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
lang=3DEN-AU> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
lang=3DEN-AU>Patrick Quinn<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
lang=3DEN-AU>Blue Mountains, Australia<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
lang=3DEN-AU>74.8 kilometres or 46 =C2=BD miles for =
Sydney<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
lang=3DEN-AU> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b><span =
lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif'>From:</span></=
b><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif'> Healeys =
[mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net" =
target=3D"_blank">healeys-bounces@autox.team.net</a>] <b>On Behalf Of =
</b>warthodson--- via Healeys<br><b>Sent:</b> Saturday, 2 May 2020 11:33 =
PM<br><b>To:</b> <a href=3D"mailto:bspidell@comcast.net" =
target=3D"_blank">bspidell@comcast.net</a>; <a =
href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net" =
target=3D"_blank">healeys@autox.team.net</a><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: =
[Healeys] Oil additives -- great informaton. Thanks.</span><span =
lang=3DEN-AU><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
lang=3DEN-AU> <o:p></o:p></span></p><div><div><div =
id=3D"gmail-m_8580753241976023623yiv0208102013"><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
lang=3DEN-AU =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>The=
best price I could find for Valvoline VR-1 20w50 on Wallmart's site was =
$7.03/quart & it was shipping from "Zoro", who ever that =
is. The next best price was $9.11/quart shipping from =
Speedway. </span><span =
lang=3DEN-AU><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span =
lang=3DEN-AU =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>Gar=
y Hodson</span><span lang=3DEN-AU><o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span =
lang=3DEN-AU =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>---=
--Original Message-----<br>From: Bob Spidell <<a =
href=3D"mailto:bspidell@comcast.net" =
target=3D"_blank">bspidell@comcast.net</a>><br>To: <a =
href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net" =
target=3D"_blank">healeys@autox.team.net</a><br>Sent: Fri, May 1, 2020 =
11:10 pm<br>Subject: Re: [Healeys] Oil additives -- great informaton. =
Thanks.</span><span lang=3DEN-AU><o:p></o:p></span></p><div =
id=3D"gmail-m_8580753241976023623yiv0208102013yqt13193"><div =
id=3D"gmail-m_8580753241976023623yiv0208102013"><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span =
lang=3DEN-AU =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>Wal=
mart had no problem shipping me a crap-ton of Valvoline VR-1 20W-50; =
still don't understand why the outfit in the Midwest I bought from =
before refused to ship to me. The Valvoline saga has some strange =
twists, a few years ago my favorite parts house 'had to pull it off the =
shelves;' I never got an explanation there, either. I haven't seen =
it on any parts house shelves since, but as long as Wallymart will ship =
for free @ less than $4/qt I'll be happy.<br><br>Bob</span><span =
lang=3DEN-AU><o:p></o:p></span></p><div =
id=3D"gmail-m_8580753241976023623yiv0208102013yqt73128"><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
lang=3DEN-AU =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>On =
5/1/2020 10:30 AM, wwycoffbn7--- via Healeys wrote:</span><span =
lang=3DEN-AU><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div><div =
id=3D"gmail-m_8580753241976023623yiv0208102013yqt06343"><div><div><div =
id=3D"gmail-m_8580753241976023623yiv0208102013"><div><div><div =
style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
lang=3DEN-AU =
style=3D'font-size:14.0pt;color:black'>Hi, </span><span =
lang=3DEN-AU><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
lang=3DEN-AU style=3D'font-size:14.0pt;color:black'>Thanks all. As =
is usual there is a lot of good discourse and experience shared by the =
list. What triggered my question on oil and oil additives was the =
observation of a bottle of Red Line 10W40 image that did not display the =
usual statement that it contains ZDDP. For decades I have used =
that oil as it carries proper oil pressure, suites the climate, =
etc. However, if Red Line stopped including ZDDP, I would find =
another oil. I also recalled that some time back, Bob Spidell =
having to find a new outlet for Valvoline 20W50 as it seemed that it no =
longer cleared some California rule changes. I wondered it this =
happened to Red Line.</span><span =
lang=3DEN-AU><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
lang=3DEN-AU style=3D'font-size:14.0pt;color:black'> </span><span =
lang=3DEN-AU><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span =
lang=3DEN-AU style=3D'font-size:14.0pt;color:black'>So, I sent off an =
inquiry to Red Line and not getting a rapid response sent one to our =
Healey group. The Healey group was much faster to respond. =
While most business are slowed down by COVID-19, a Red Line response did =
come. The assurance is that Red Line Motor Oil 10W40 (SKU 11404) =
contains good ZDDP levels, plenty for an Austin Healey's flat tappet cam =
and lifters; 1225ppm zinc and more importantly 1375ppm =
phosphorus.</span><span lang=3DEN-AU><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
lang=3DEN-AU style=3D'font-size:14.0pt;color:black'>As to their break in =
additive, their Web site indicates that a half bottle is enough to add =
to a conventional oil. It also has bit of sulfur, 16.6 =
grams. I have to wonder if adding it to their 10W40 could result =
in too much. I am just not inclined to experiment.</span><span =
lang=3DEN-AU><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
lang=3DEN-AU style=3D'font-size:14.0pt;color:black'> </span><span =
lang=3DEN-AU><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
lang=3DEN-AU style=3D'font-size:14.0pt;color:black'>The 3000=E2=80=99s =
owner=E2=80=99s manual only mentions 30 weight oil, even for tropical =
heat. However, the =E2=80=9CWork shop Manual=E2=80=9D (the Green =
Book) has a much more expansive table that promotes a lot of weights =
depending on the manufacturer. The aspect that modern oils are a =
bit different than those available when the book came out adds a bit =
more uncertainty. </span><span =
lang=3DEN-AU><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
lang=3DEN-AU style=3D'font-size:14.0pt;color:black'> </span><span =
lang=3DEN-AU><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
lang=3DEN-AU style=3D'font-size:14.0pt;color:black'>I am confident using =
the 10W40. I used 10W50 in my Triumph, but it was an air-cooled =
engine and was REAL hard to start in freezing weather. There were =
also a lot of reputable recommendations that led me to Red =
Line=E2=80=99s 10W40. The oil pressure is proper, so I =
don=E2=80=99t see an upside for me to use a heavier oil.</span><span =
lang=3DEN-AU><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
lang=3DEN-AU style=3D'font-size:14.0pt;color:black'> </span><span =
lang=3DEN-AU><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
lang=3DEN-AU style=3D'font-size:14.0pt;color:black'>Many thanks to the =
folks who responded. </span><span =
lang=3DEN-AU><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
lang=3DEN-AU style=3D'font-size:14.0pt;color:black'> </span><span =
lang=3DEN-AU><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
lang=3DEN-AU style=3D'font-size:14.0pt;color:black'>Bill</span><span =
lang=3DEN-AU><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
lang=3DEN-AU =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>&nb=
sp;</span><span lang=3DEN-AU><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
lang=3DEN-AU =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>&nb=
sp;</span><span lang=3DEN-AU><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
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