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To: "'Mirek Sharp'" <m.g.sharp@sympatico.ca>, <healeys@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] length of cockpit
From: "John Rowe" <john@jtkarowe.com.au>
Date: Mon, 11 May 2020 16:15:12 +1000
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Hi Mirek,

 I just measured my 59 BT7 at the centre point.

1310mm from back edge of cockpit surround to back of windscreen surround
(51.5 inches)

1335mm to front edge of windscreen surround. (52.55 inches)

The supports are correctly aligned with the sidescreens

Trust this helps

Regards

John Rowe 

Queensland Australia

 

 

From: Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Mirek
Sharp
Sent: Monday, 11 May 2020 1:57 PM
To: healeys@autox.team.net
Subject: [Healeys] length of cockpit

 

Dear listers, I have recently spent a fair bit of time fiddling with getting
a good fit for the hardtop on my '59 BT7.  It is definitely a bit long, and
when clipped securely to the windscreen it overhangs the rear cockpit trim
just a bit more than I would like (just barely catching the rubber seal  on
the hardtop).  It was a challenge getting  a good seal with the side-screens
as well and although I eventually achieved an excellent fit on the passenger
side, there is still a bit of a gap (1/4") between the hardtop and the rear
of the driver'-side side-screen, for the first 6" above the door.  However,
overall, I am relatively happy with the fit as the hardtop was purchased
about 7 years ago and did not come factory-fitted back in '59.

 

I understand from talking to others that there is considerable variation in
the hardtops; they are not all identical.  Despite this, I have wondered if
the issue with the less than perfect fit is because the hardtop is too
"long", or if the distance between my windshield and the rear aluminum
cockpit trim is too short.   The latter is possible as the body was removed
for repair and paint 6 years ago.  That work was mmundertaken by my late
friend Rich Chrysler and his crew, who knew thing or two about Healeys and
whose work is impeccable, thus I am inclined to think it is the hardtop.
Also, I have moved the windscreen as far forward as possible without
compromising the fit against the front shroud (there is a shallow "hump" in
the shroud which locates the rubber windscreen seal).  The rake is
determined by the angle of the side-screens and getting the base of the
windscreen pillars satisfactorily located on the rubber pads, so no
adjustment there.  The body panels fit beautifully, so I will not
contemplate adjusting those to achieve a better fit for the hardtop.  

 

So, more out of curiosity than anything else, (and as part of my personal
commitment to keep us all productively occupied through the present crisis)
I would be grateful if any listers out there with BT7s could measure the
distance from the windscreen to the rear aluminum moulding around the
cockpit so I can get some idea what variation exists, if any, in the
"length" of the cockpit (I don't know how else to put it).  To ensure the
same measuring points are used by all, I suggest the measurement be taken
from the centre of the top windscreen frame, at the top of the rear lip of
the frame (hook the tape measure over the lip)  to the middle of the
aluminum trim at the rear of the cockpit (i.e., along  the centreline of the
car).  There is a very short segment of  aluminum trim, about an inch long,
held by a single screw, which conveniently denotes the centreline at the
rear.

 

Many thanks to any of you who can shed some light on this question for me.

 

Mirek


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<p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'color:#1F497D'>Hi =
Mirek,<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'color:#1F497D'>&nbsp;I just measured =
my 59 BT7 at
the centre point.<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'color:#1F497D'>1310mm from back edge =
of cockpit
surround to back of windscreen surround (51.5 =
inches)<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'color:#1F497D'>1335mm to front edge =
of
windscreen surround. (52.55 inches)<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'color:#1F497D'>The supports are =
correctly
aligned with the sidescreens<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'color:#1F497D'>Trust this =
helps<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'color:#1F497D'>Regards<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'color:#1F497D'>John Rowe =
<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'color:#1F497D'>Queensland =
Australia<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span>=
</b><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Healeys
[mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Mirek =
Sharp<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, 11 May 2020 1:57 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> healeys@autox.team.net<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Healeys] length of cockpit<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-CA>Dear listers, I have recently =
spent a fair
bit of time fiddling with getting a good fit for the hardtop on my =
&#8217;59
BT7.&nbsp; It is definitely a bit long, and when clipped securely to the
windscreen it overhangs the rear cockpit trim just a bit more than I =
would like
(<u>just barely</u> catching the rubber seal&nbsp; on the =
hardtop).&nbsp; It
was a challenge getting&nbsp; a good seal with the side-screens as well =
and
although I eventually achieved an excellent fit on the passenger side, =
there is
still a bit of a gap (1/4&#8221;) between the hardtop and the rear of =
the
driver&#8217;-side side-screen, for the first 6&#8221; above the =
door.&nbsp; However,
overall, I am relatively happy with the fit as the hardtop was purchased =
about
7 years ago and did not come factory-fitted back in =
&#8217;59.<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-CA><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-CA>I understand from talking to =
others that
there is considerable variation in the hardtops; they are not all
identical.&nbsp; Despite this, I have wondered if the issue with the =
less than
perfect fit is because the hardtop is too &#8220;long&#8221;, or if the =
distance between my
windshield and the rear aluminum cockpit trim is too short.&nbsp;&nbsp; =
The
latter is possible as the body was removed for repair and paint 6 years
ago.&nbsp; That work was <span =
style=3D'color:#1F497D'>mm</span>undertaken by my
late friend Rich Chrysler and his crew, who knew thing or two about =
Healeys and
whose work is impeccable, thus I am inclined to think it is the =
hardtop.&nbsp;
Also, I have moved the windscreen as far forward as possible without
compromising the fit against the front shroud (there is a shallow =
&#8220;hump&#8221; in the
shroud which locates the rubber windscreen seal).&nbsp; The rake is =
determined
by the angle of the side-screens and getting the base of the windscreen =
pillars
satisfactorily located on the rubber pads, so no adjustment there.&nbsp; =
The
body panels fit beautifully, so I will not contemplate adjusting those =
to
achieve a better fit for the hardtop.&nbsp; <o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-CA><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-CA>So, more out of curiosity than =
anything
else, (and as part of my personal commitment to keep us all productively
occupied through the present crisis) I would be grateful if any listers =
out
there with BT7s could measure the distance from the windscreen to the =
rear
aluminum moulding around the cockpit so I can get some idea what =
variation
exists, if any, in the &#8220;length&#8221; of the cockpit (I =
don&#8217;t know how else to put
it).&nbsp; To ensure the same measuring points are used by all, I =
suggest the
measurement be taken from the centre of the top windscreen frame, at the =
top of
the rear lip of the frame (hook the tape measure over the lip) &nbsp;to =
the
middle of the aluminum trim at the rear of the cockpit (i.e., =
along&nbsp; the
centreline of the car).&nbsp; There is a very short segment of =
&nbsp;aluminum
trim, about an inch long, held by a single screw, which conveniently =
denotes
the centreline at the rear.<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-CA><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-CA>Many thanks to any of you who =
can shed some
light on this question for me.<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-CA><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-CA>Mirek<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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