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To: Mirek Sharp <m.g.sharp@sympatico.ca> VoU0Lrij/F651atfiheFbZNgiw7g9vOHFyG/2AT6y097dVd+kMNKeAyd/fqRVJwJL9ZqmfUxU1OF7A==
Subject: Re: [Healeys] length of cockpit
From: Mark Fawcett <m.fawcett@cox.net>
Date: Mon, 11 May 2020 09:12:13 -0700
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I got 51.5" too

Mark Fawcett

On Sun, May 10, 2020 at 11:25 PM John Rowe <john@jtkarowe.com.au> wrote:

> Hi Mirek,
>
>  I just measured my 59 BT7 at the centre point.
>
> 1310mm from back edge of cockpit surround to back of windscreen surround
> (51.5 inches)
>
> 1335mm to front edge of windscreen surround. (52.55 inches)
>
> The supports are correctly aligned with the sidescreens
>
> Trust this helps
>
> Regards
>
> John Rowe
>
> Queensland Australia
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net] *On Behalf Of *Mi=
rek
> Sharp
> *Sent:* Monday, 11 May 2020 1:57 PM
> *To:* healeys@autox.team.net
> *Subject:* [Healeys] length of cockpit
>
>
>
> Dear listers, I have recently spent a fair bit of time fiddling with
> getting a good fit for the hardtop on my =E2=80=9959 BT7.  It is definite=
ly a bit
> long, and when clipped securely to the windscreen it overhangs the rear
> cockpit trim just a bit more than I would like (*just barely* catching
> the rubber seal  on the hardtop).  It was a challenge getting  a good sea=
l
> with the side-screens as well and although I eventually achieved an
> excellent fit on the passenger side, there is still a bit of a gap (1/4=
=E2=80=9D)
> between the hardtop and the rear of the driver=E2=80=99-side side-screen,=
 for the
> first 6=E2=80=9D above the door.  However, overall, I am relatively happy=
 with the
> fit as the hardtop was purchased about 7 years ago and did not come
> factory-fitted back in =E2=80=9959.
>
>
>
> I understand from talking to others that there is considerable variation
> in the hardtops; they are not all identical.  Despite this, I have wonder=
ed
> if the issue with the less than perfect fit is because the hardtop is too
> =E2=80=9Clong=E2=80=9D, or if the distance between my windshield and the =
rear aluminum
> cockpit trim is too short.   The latter is possible as the body was remov=
ed
> for repair and paint 6 years ago.  That work was mmundertaken by my late
> friend Rich Chrysler and his crew, who knew thing or two about Healeys an=
d
> whose work is impeccable, thus I am inclined to think it is the hardtop.
> Also, I have moved the windscreen as far forward as possible without
> compromising the fit against the front shroud (there is a shallow =E2=80=
=9Chump=E2=80=9D in
> the shroud which locates the rubber windscreen seal).  The rake is
> determined by the angle of the side-screens and getting the base of the
> windscreen pillars satisfactorily located on the rubber pads, so no
> adjustment there.  The body panels fit beautifully, so I will not
> contemplate adjusting those to achieve a better fit for the hardtop.
>
>
>
> So, more out of curiosity than anything else, (and as part of my personal
> commitment to keep us all productively occupied through the present crisi=
s)
> I would be grateful if any listers out there with BT7s could measure the
> distance from the windscreen to the rear aluminum moulding around the
> cockpit so I can get some idea what variation exists, if any, in the
> =E2=80=9Clength=E2=80=9D of the cockpit (I don=E2=80=99t know how else to=
 put it).  To ensure the
> same measuring points are used by all, I suggest the measurement be taken
> from the centre of the top windscreen frame, at the top of the rear lip o=
f
> the frame (hook the tape measure over the lip)  to the middle of the
> aluminum trim at the rear of the cockpit (i.e., along  the centreline of
> the car).  There is a very short segment of  aluminum trim, about an inch
> long, held by a single screw, which conveniently denotes the centreline a=
t
> the rear.
>
>
>
> Many thanks to any of you who can shed some light on this question for me=
.
>
>
>
> Mirek
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<div dir=3D"ltr">I got 51.5&quot; too<div><br></div><div>Mark Fawcett</div>=
</div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">=
On Sun, May 10, 2020 at 11:25 PM John Rowe &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:john@jtkar=
owe.com.au">john@jtkarowe.com.au</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=
=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rg=
b(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">








<div lang=3D"EN-US">

<div class=3D"gmail-m_-3684595026216649097Section1">

<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:rgb(31,73,125)">Hi Mirek,<u></u=
><u></u></span></p>

<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:rgb(31,73,125)">=C2=A0I just me=
asured my 59 BT7 at
the centre point.<u></u><u></u></span></p>

<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:rgb(31,73,125)">1310mm from bac=
k edge of cockpit
surround to back of windscreen surround (51.5 inches)<u></u><u></u></span><=
/p>

<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:rgb(31,73,125)">1335mm to front=
 edge of
windscreen surround. (52.55 inches)<u></u><u></u></span></p>

<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:rgb(31,73,125)">The supports ar=
e correctly
aligned with the sidescreens<u></u><u></u></span></p>

<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:rgb(31,73,125)">Trust this help=
s<u></u><u></u></span></p>

<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:rgb(31,73,125)">Regards<u></u><=
u></u></span></p>

<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:rgb(31,73,125)">John Rowe <u></=
u><u></u></span></p>

<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:rgb(31,73,125)">Queensland Aust=
ralia<u></u><u></u></span></p>

<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:rgb(31,73,125)"><u></u>=C2=A0<u=
></u></span></p>

<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:rgb(31,73,125)"><u></u>=C2=A0<u=
></u></span></p>

<div>

<div style=3D"border-right:none;border-bottom:none;border-left:none;border-=
top:1pt solid rgb(181,196,223);padding:3pt 0cm 0cm">

<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Tahoma,=
sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Tahom=
a,sans-serif"> Healeys
[mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank"=
>healeys-bounces@autox.team.net</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Mirek Sharp<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, 11 May 2020 1:57 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank">heal=
eys@autox.team.net</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Healeys] length of cockpit<u></u><u></u></span></p>

</div>

</div>

<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>

<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-CA">Dear listers, I have recently s=
pent a fair
bit of time fiddling with getting a good fit for the hardtop on my =E2=80=
=9959
BT7.=C2=A0 It is definitely a bit long, and when clipped securely to the
windscreen it overhangs the rear cockpit trim just a bit more than I would =
like
(<u>just barely</u> catching the rubber seal=C2=A0 on the hardtop).=C2=A0 I=
t
was a challenge getting=C2=A0 a good seal with the side-screens as well and
although I eventually achieved an excellent fit on the passenger side, ther=
e is
still a bit of a gap (1/4=E2=80=9D) between the hardtop and the rear of the
driver=E2=80=99-side side-screen, for the first 6=E2=80=9D above the door.=
=C2=A0 However,
overall, I am relatively happy with the fit as the hardtop was purchased ab=
out
7 years ago and did not come factory-fitted back in =E2=80=9959.<u></u><u><=
/u></span></p>

<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-CA"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p>

<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-CA">I understand from talking to ot=
hers that
there is considerable variation in the hardtops; they are not all
identical.=C2=A0 Despite this, I have wondered if the issue with the less t=
han
perfect fit is because the hardtop is too =E2=80=9Clong=E2=80=9D, or if the=
 distance between my
windshield and the rear aluminum cockpit trim is too short.=C2=A0=C2=A0 The
latter is possible as the body was removed for repair and paint 6 years
ago.=C2=A0 That work was <span style=3D"color:rgb(31,73,125)">mm</span>unde=
rtaken by my
late friend Rich Chrysler and his crew, who knew thing or two about Healeys=
 and
whose work is impeccable, thus I am inclined to think it is the hardtop.=C2=
=A0
Also, I have moved the windscreen as far forward as possible without
compromising the fit against the front shroud (there is a shallow =E2=80=9C=
hump=E2=80=9D in the
shroud which locates the rubber windscreen seal).=C2=A0 The rake is determi=
ned
by the angle of the side-screens and getting the base of the windscreen pil=
lars
satisfactorily located on the rubber pads, so no adjustment there.=C2=A0 Th=
e
body panels fit beautifully, so I will not contemplate adjusting those to
achieve a better fit for the hardtop.=C2=A0 <u></u><u></u></span></p>

<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-CA"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p>

<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-CA">So, more out of curiosity than =
anything
else, (and as part of my personal commitment to keep us all productively
occupied through the present crisis) I would be grateful if any listers out
there with BT7s could measure the distance from the windscreen to the rear
aluminum moulding around the cockpit so I can get some idea what variation
exists, if any, in the =E2=80=9Clength=E2=80=9D of the cockpit (I don=E2=80=
=99t know how else to put
it).=C2=A0 To ensure the same measuring points are used by all, I suggest t=
he
measurement be taken from the centre of the top windscreen frame, at the to=
p of
the rear lip of the frame (hook the tape measure over the lip) =C2=A0to the
middle of the aluminum trim at the rear of the cockpit (i.e., along=C2=A0 t=
he
centreline of the car).=C2=A0 There is a very short segment of =C2=A0alumin=
um
trim, about an inch long, held by a single screw, which conveniently denote=
s
the centreline at the rear.<u></u><u></u></span></p>

<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-CA"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p>

<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-CA">Many thanks to any of you who c=
an shed some
light on this question for me.<u></u><u></u></span></p>

<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-CA"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p>

<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-CA">Mirek<u></u><u></u></span></p>

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