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To: simon.lachlan@alexarevel.plus.com
Subject: Re: [Healeys] length of cockpit
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Date: Mon, 11 May 2020 14:00:54 -0400
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My BT7 hardtop is a bit pride on both sides forward of the rear hold =
down clamps.

A friend recently restored a hardtop for a customer.  We fitted it on my =
car and it was perfect.  It did take some work though - primarily =
bending the locating pins so they fit properly in the locating holes.

Larry

> On May 11, 2020, at 12:32 PM, <simon.lachlan@alexarevel.plus.com> =
<simon.lachlan@alexarevel.plus.com> wrote:
>=20
> 51.5=E2=80=9D on mine. Mk11 BT7.
> Mind you, my hardtop isn=E2=80=99t a brilliant fit either. Lengthwise, =
I=E2=80=99d say it=E2=80=99s good but it seems to sit up a little at the =
rear centre. It doesn=E2=80=99t quite sit down flush. A few mm out. =
Nothing too serious.
> Simon
> =20
> From: Healeys <healeys-bounces@autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Mirek =
Sharp
> Sent: 11 May 2020 04:57
> To: healeys@autox.team.net
> Subject: [Healeys] length of cockpit
> =20
> Dear listers, I have recently spent a fair bit of time fiddling with =
getting a good fit for the hardtop on my =E2=80=9959 BT7.  It is =
definitely a bit long, and when clipped securely to the windscreen it =
overhangs the rear cockpit trim just a bit more than I would like (just =
barely catching the rubber seal  on the hardtop).  It was a challenge =
getting  a good seal with the side-screens as well and although I =
eventually achieved an excellent fit on the passenger side, there is =
still a bit of a gap (1/4=E2=80=9D) between the hardtop and the rear of =
the driver=E2=80=99-side side-screen, for the first 6=E2=80=9D above the =
door.  However, overall, I am relatively happy with the fit as the =
hardtop was purchased about 7 years ago and did not come factory-fitted =
back in =E2=80=9959.
> =20
> I understand from talking to others that there is considerable =
variation in the hardtops; they are not all identical.  Despite this, I =
have wondered if the issue with the less than perfect fit is because the =
hardtop is too =E2=80=9Clong=E2=80=9D, or if the distance between my =
windshield and the rear aluminum cockpit trim is too short.   The latter =
is possible as the body was removed for repair and paint 6 years ago.  =
That work was undertaken by my late friend Rich Chrysler and his crew, =
who knew thing or two about Healeys and whose work is impeccable, thus I =
am inclined to think it is the hardtop.  Also, I have moved the =
windscreen as far forward as possible without compromising the fit =
against the front shroud (there is a shallow =E2=80=9Chump=E2=80=9D in =
the shroud which locates the rubber windscreen seal).  The rake is =
determined by the angle of the side-screens and getting the base of the =
windscreen pillars satisfactorily located on the rubber pads, so no =
adjustment there.  The body panels fit beautifully, so I will not =
contemplate adjusting those to achieve a better fit for the hardtop. =20
> =20
> So, more out of curiosity than anything else, (and as part of my =
personal commitment to keep us all productively occupied through the =
present crisis) I would be grateful if any listers out there with BT7s =
could measure the distance from the windscreen to the rear aluminum =
moulding around the cockpit so I can get some idea what variation =
exists, if any, in the =E2=80=9Clength=E2=80=9D of the cockpit (I =
don=E2=80=99t know how else to put it).  To ensure the same measuring =
points are used by all, I suggest the measurement be taken from the =
centre of the top windscreen frame, at the top of the rear lip of the =
frame (hook the tape measure over the lip)  to the middle of the =
aluminum trim at the rear of the cockpit (i.e., along  the centreline of =
the car).  There is a very short segment of  aluminum trim, about an =
inch long, held by a single screw, which conveniently denotes the =
centreline at the rear.
> =20
> Many thanks to any of you who can shed some light on this question for =
me.
> =20
> Mirek
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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"Content-Type" content=3D"text/html; =
charset=3Dutf-8"></head><body style=3D"word-wrap: break-word; =
-webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class=3D"">My =
BT7 hardtop is a bit pride on both sides forward of the rear hold down =
clamps.<div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">A friend =
recently restored a hardtop for a customer. &nbsp;We fitted it on my car =
and it was perfect. &nbsp;It did take some work though - primarily =
bending the locating pins so they fit properly in the locating =
holes.</div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">Larry<br =
class=3D""><div><br class=3D""><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D""><div =
class=3D"">On May 11, 2020, at 12:32 PM, &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:simon.lachlan@alexarevel.plus.com"; =
class=3D"">simon.lachlan@alexarevel.plus.com</a>&gt; &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:simon.lachlan@alexarevel.plus.com"; =
class=3D"">simon.lachlan@alexarevel.plus.com</a>&gt; wrote:</div><br =
class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=3D""><div =
class=3D"WordSection1" style=3D"page: WordSection1; caret-color: rgb(0, =
0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; =
font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; =
text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: =
normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; =
text-decoration: none;"><div style=3D"margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; =
font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D"">51.5=E2=80=9D=
 on mine. Mk11 BT7.<o:p class=3D""></o:p></div><div style=3D"margin: 0cm =
0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" =
class=3D"">Mind you, my hardtop isn=E2=80=99t a brilliant fit either. =
Lengthwise, I=E2=80=99d say it=E2=80=99s good but it seems to sit up a =
little at the rear centre. It doesn=E2=80=99t quite sit down flush. A =
few mm out. Nothing too serious.<o:p class=3D""></o:p></div><div =
style=3D"margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: =
Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D"">Simon<o:p class=3D""></o:p></div><div =
style=3D"margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: =
Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D""><o:p class=3D"">&nbsp;</o:p></div><div =
class=3D""><div style=3D"border-style: solid none none; =
border-top-width: 1pt; border-top-color: rgb(225, 225, 225); padding: =
3pt 0cm 0cm;" class=3D""><div style=3D"margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; =
font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D""><b =
class=3D""><span lang=3D"EN-US" class=3D"">From:</span></b><span =
lang=3D"EN-US" class=3D""><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>Healeys &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net"; =
class=3D"">healeys-bounces@autox.team.net</a>&gt;<span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><b class=3D"">On Behalf =
Of<span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span></b>Mirek Sharp<br =
class=3D""><b class=3D"">Sent:</b><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>11 May 2020 04:57<br =
class=3D""><b class=3D"">To:</b><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><a =
href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net"; =
class=3D"">healeys@autox.team.net</a><br class=3D""><b =
class=3D"">Subject:</b><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>[Healeys] length of =
cockpit<o:p class=3D""></o:p></span></div></div></div><div =
style=3D"margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: =
Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D""><o:p class=3D"">&nbsp;</o:p></div><div =
style=3D"margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: =
Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D""><span lang=3D"EN-CA" class=3D"">Dear =
listers, I have recently spent a fair bit of time fiddling with getting =
a good fit for the hardtop on my =E2=80=9959 BT7.&nbsp; It is definitely =
a bit long, and when clipped securely to the windscreen it overhangs the =
rear cockpit trim just a bit more than I would like (<u class=3D"">just =
barely</u><span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>catching =
the rubber seal&nbsp; on the hardtop).&nbsp; It was a challenge =
getting&nbsp; a good seal with the side-screens as well and although I =
eventually achieved an excellent fit on the passenger side, there is =
still a bit of a gap (1/4=E2=80=9D) between the hardtop and the rear of =
the driver=E2=80=99-side side-screen, for the first 6=E2=80=9D above the =
door.&nbsp; However, overall, I am relatively happy with the fit as the =
hardtop was purchased about 7 years ago and did not come factory-fitted =
back in =E2=80=9959.<o:p class=3D""></o:p></span></div><div =
style=3D"margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: =
Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D""><span lang=3D"EN-CA" class=3D""><o:p =
class=3D"">&nbsp;</o:p></span></div><div style=3D"margin: 0cm 0cm =
0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" =
class=3D""><span lang=3D"EN-CA" class=3D"">I understand from talking to =
others that there is considerable variation in the hardtops; they are =
not all identical.&nbsp; Despite this, I have wondered if the issue with =
the less than perfect fit is because the hardtop is too =E2=80=9Clong=E2=80=
=9D, or if the distance between my windshield and the rear aluminum =
cockpit trim is too short.&nbsp;&nbsp; The latter is possible as the =
body was removed for repair and paint 6 years ago.&nbsp; That work was =
undertaken by my late friend Rich Chrysler and his crew, who knew thing =
or two about Healeys and whose work is impeccable, thus I am inclined to =
think it is the hardtop.&nbsp; Also, I have moved the windscreen as far =
forward as possible without compromising the fit against the front =
shroud (there is a shallow =E2=80=9Chump=E2=80=9D in the shroud which =
locates the rubber windscreen seal).&nbsp; The rake is determined by the =
angle of the side-screens and getting the base of the windscreen pillars =
satisfactorily located on the rubber pads, so no adjustment there.&nbsp; =
The body panels fit beautifully, so I will not contemplate adjusting =
those to achieve a better fit for the hardtop.&nbsp;<span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><o:p =
class=3D""></o:p></span></div><div style=3D"margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; =
font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D""><span =
lang=3D"EN-CA" class=3D""><o:p class=3D"">&nbsp;</o:p></span></div><div =
style=3D"margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: =
Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D""><span lang=3D"EN-CA" class=3D"">So, =
more out of curiosity than anything else, (and as part of my personal =
commitment to keep us all productively occupied through the present =
crisis) I would be grateful if any listers out there with BT7s could =
measure the distance from the windscreen to the rear aluminum moulding =
around the cockpit so I can get some idea what variation exists, if any, =
in the =E2=80=9Clength=E2=80=9D of the cockpit (I don=E2=80=99t know how =
else to put it).&nbsp; To ensure the same measuring points are used by =
all, I suggest the measurement be taken from the centre of the top =
windscreen frame, at the top of the rear lip of the frame (hook the tape =
measure over the lip) &nbsp;to the middle of the aluminum trim at the =
rear of the cockpit (i.e., along&nbsp; the centreline of the car).&nbsp; =
There is a very short segment of &nbsp;aluminum trim, about an inch =
long, held by a single screw, which conveniently denotes the centreline =
at the rear.<o:p class=3D""></o:p></span></div><div style=3D"margin: 0cm =
0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" =
class=3D""><span lang=3D"EN-CA" class=3D""><o:p =
class=3D"">&nbsp;</o:p></span></div><div style=3D"margin: 0cm 0cm =
0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" =
class=3D""><span lang=3D"EN-CA" class=3D"">Many thanks to any of you who =
can shed some light on this question for me.<o:p =
class=3D""></o:p></span></div><div style=3D"margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; =
font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D""><span =
lang=3D"EN-CA" class=3D""><o:p class=3D"">&nbsp;</o:p></span></div><div =
style=3D"margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: =
Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D""><span lang=3D"EN-CA" class=3D"">Mirek<o:p=
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