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Re: [Healeys] NOS 100/4 block?

To: Michael Oritt <michael.oritt@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] NOS 100/4 block?
From: Michael Salter via Healeys <healeys@autox.team.net>
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2020 13:54:26 -0400
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Actually AHX12 ourTarga Newfoundland car used a 100 block with an FX3 Taxi
crank. Certainly was, and still is, a fun car to drive.
You can read about the engine build here
<https://www.netbug.net/blogmichael/2007/03/19/building-a-100r-race-engine/=
>

M

On Thu, Aug 27, 2020 at 1:47 PM Michael Oritt via Healeys <
healeys@autox.team.net> wrote:

> Michael Salter uses a taxi block on the car in which we did the Targa
> Newfoundland, not only because of the stronger crank but because it put u=
s
> in an under 2.5-litre group in which it was easier to be competitive.
> Notwithstanding the lower displacement the car was plenty fast!
>
> Best--Michael Oritt
>
> On Wed, Aug 26, 2020 at 5:16 PM David Nock via Healeys <
> healeys@autox.team.net> wrote:
>
>> I have a diesel motor here stripped. I thought that they were the same
>> but the timing chain is a triple link chain so the snout on the front of
>> the crank is about 1=E2=80=9D longer than the gas motors.
>>
>>
>> David Nock
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>> *From:* Ray Juncal via Healeys
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, August 26, 2020 1:18 PM
>> *To:* Ulla &Sven Ordell ; John Harper
>> *Cc:* healeys@autox.team.net
>> *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] NOS 100/4 block?
>>
>> If it is the diesel block it will have the heavy duty crank shaft a
>> valuable part by itself if I remember correctly.
>>
>> On Wednesday, August 26, 2020, 9:55:38 AM PDT, John Harper via Healeys <
>> healeys@autox.team.net> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Ulla
>>
>> The A90 Atlantic 2.6 litre 4 cylinder is basically the same. The only
>> difference is that the A-H has a 2 bolt distributor fitting whereas the =
A90
>> has one. This however is a bit of a simplification because there was a
>> small amount of overlap with early 100 having blocks with only one fixin=
g
>> bolt and very late A90s having two. To make this more complicated if it
>> were BMC Gold seal replacement engines. These could be delivered with
>> either one bolt or two. It is possible to fit a A-H distributor to a sin=
gle
>> bolt version but the mounting plate has to be from an A90.
>>
>> All other 2.2 and 2.5 litre blocks have different bores so this can be
>> measured fairly easily. Another point is that later blocks had different
>> fittings such as the push rods.
>>
>> Another possible different version was from a diesel block as fitted to
>> London Taxis etc.
>>
>> On Wed, 26 Aug 2020 at 14:21, Ulla &Sven Ordell via Healeys <
>> healeys@autox.team.net> wrote:
>>
>> Friends !
>>
>>
>>
>> A mate has asked me for help. He has been offered what appears to be a
>> NOS 100/4 block, nice, but two questions has come up.
>>
>> 1 How do I tell if it is a genuine 100/4 block or one from any other
>> Austin/BMC with the same basic engine, and 2 any guidance on price tag?
>>
>> Any guidance thankfully accepted.
>>
>>
>>
>> Best regards
>>
>> Sven
>>
>> Ex BJ8 now =E2=80=9Conly=E2=80=9D MMM M.G.s
>>
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:comic sa=
ns ms,sans-serif;font-size:small">Actually AHX12 ourTarga Newfoundland car =
used a 100 block with an FX3 Taxi crank. Certainly was, and still is, a fun=
 car to drive. <br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:=
comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:small">You can read about the engine bui=
ld <a href=3D"https://www.netbug.net/blogmichael/2007/03/19/building-a-100r=
-race-engine/">here</a></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-fam=
ily:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:small"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail=
_default" style=3D"font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:small">M<=
br></div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gma=
il_attr">On Thu, Aug 27, 2020 at 1:47 PM Michael Oritt via Healeys &lt;<a h=
ref=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net";>healeys@autox.team.net</a>&gt; wrote:=
<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8=
ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr=
"><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:rgb(51,51,255)">Michael Salte=
r uses a taxi block on the car in which we did the Targa Newfoundland, not=
=C2=A0only=C2=A0because of the stronger crank but because it put us in an u=
nder 2.5-litre group in which it was easier to be competitive.</div><div cl=
ass=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:rgb(51,51,255)">Notwithstanding=C2=A0t=
he lower displacement the car was plenty fast!</div><div class=3D"gmail_def=
ault" style=3D"color:rgb(51,51,255)"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default"=
 style=3D"color:rgb(51,51,255)">Best--Michael Oritt</div></div><br><div cla=
ss=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Wed, Aug 26, 20=
20 at 5:16 PM David Nock via Healeys &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.te=
am.net" target=3D"_blank">healeys@autox.team.net</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><b=
lockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-le=
ft:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
<div dir=3D"ltr">
<div dir=3D"ltr">
<div style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:Century;color:rgb(0,0,0)">
<div>I have a diesel motor here stripped. I thought that they were the same=
 but=20
the timing chain is a triple link chain so the snout on the front of the cr=
ank=20
is about 1=E2=80=9D longer than the gas motors.</div>
<div>=C2=A0</div>
<div>=C2=A0</div>
<div style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:Century;color:rgb(0,0,0)">David=20
Nock<br><a href=3D"mailto:healeydoc@sbcglobal.net"; target=3D"_blank">healey=
doc@sbcglobal.net</a><br>209 948=20
8767<br><a href=3D"http://www.britishcarspecialists.com"; target=3D"_blank">=
www.britishcarspecialists.com</a><br><br>Help us have our Founder Norman=20
Nock inducteed into the <br>British Sportscar Hall of Fame, You can vote fo=
r=20
your favorites <br>by visiting the site=20
at.<br><a href=3D"http://www.britishsportscarhalloffame.org"; target=3D"_bla=
nk">www.britishsportscarhalloffame.org</a><br></div>
<div style=3D"font-size:small;text-decoration:none;font-family:Calibri;font=
-weight:normal;color:rgb(0,0,0);font-style:normal;display:inline">
<div style=3D"font:10pt tahoma">
<div>=C2=A0</div>
<div style=3D"background:rgb(245,245,245) none repeat scroll 0% 0%">
<div><b>From:</b> <a title=3D"healeys@autox.team.net">Ray=20
Juncal via Healeys</a> </div>
<div><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, August 26, 2020 1:18 PM</div>
<div><b>To:</b> <a title=3D"bispmotala@hotmail.com">Ulla &amp;Sven Ordell</=
a> ; <a title=3D"ah100register@gmail.com">John Harper</a> </div>
<div><b>Cc:</b> <a title=3D"healeys@autox.team.net">healeys@autox.team.net<=
/a>=20
</div>
<div><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys] NOS 100/4 block?</div></div></div>
<div>=C2=A0</div></div>
<div style=3D"font-size:small;text-decoration:none;font-family:Calibri;font=
-weight:normal;color:rgb(0,0,0);font-style:normal;display:inline">
<div style=3D"font-size:16px;font-family:&quot;helvetica neue&quot;,helveti=
ca,arial,sans-serif">
<div></div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">If it is the diesel block it will have the=20
heavy duty crank shaft a valuable part by itself if I remember=20
correctly.<br></div>
<div>=C2=A0</div></div>
<div id=3D"gmail-m_-8675774611132989538gmail-m_-2454585779945563042ydpdacd5=
e7dyahoo_quoted_8779840061">
<div style=3D"font-size:13px;font-family:&quot;Helvetica Neue&quot;,helveti=
ca,arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)">
<div>On Wednesday, August 26, 2020, 9:55:38 AM PDT, John Harper via Healeys=
=20
&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank">healeys@aut=
ox.team.net</a>&gt; wrote: </div>
<div>=C2=A0</div>
<div>=C2=A0</div>
<div>
<div id=3D"gmail-m_-8675774611132989538gmail-m_-2454585779945563042ydpdacd5=
e7dyiv8329453701">
<div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">Ulla=20
<div>=C2=A0</div>
<div>The A90 Atlantic 2.6 litre 4 cylinder is basically the same. The only=
=20
difference is that the A-H has a 2 bolt distributor fitting whereas the A90=
 has=20
one. This however is a bit of a simplification because there was a small am=
ount=20
of overlap with early 100 having blocks with only one fixing bolt and very =
late=20
A90s having two. To make this more complicated if it were BMC Gold seal=20
replacement engines. These could be delivered with either one bolt or two. =
It is=20
possible to fit a A-H distributor to a single bolt version but the mounting=
=20
plate has to be from an A90.</div>
<div>=C2=A0</div>
<div>All other 2.2 and 2.5 litre blocks have different bores so this can be=
=20
measured fairly easily. Another point is that later blocks had different=20
fittings such as the push rods.</div>
<div>=C2=A0</div>
<div>Another possible different version was from a diesel block as fitted t=
o=20
London Taxis etc.</div></div>
<div>=C2=A0</div>
<div>
<div id=3D"gmail-m_-8675774611132989538gmail-m_-2454585779945563042ydpdacd5=
e7dyiv8329453701yqt82035">
<div dir=3D"ltr">On Wed, 26 Aug 2020 at=20
14:21, Ulla &amp;Sven Ordell via Healeys &lt;<a shape=3D"rect" rel=3D"nofol=
low">healeys@autox.team.net</a>&gt; wrote:<br clear=3D"none"></div>
<blockquote style=3D"padding-left:1ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204=
);margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex">
  <div lang=3D"SV">
  <div>
  <p><span lang=3D"EN-GB">Friends=20
  !<u></u><u></u></span></p>
  <p><span lang=3D"EN-GB"><u></u><u></u></span>=C2=A0</p>
  <p><span lang=3D"EN-GB">A mate has asked=20
  me for help. He has been offered what appears to be a NOS 100/4 block, ni=
ce,=20
  but two questions has come up.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
  <p><span lang=3D"EN-GB">1 How do I tell if=20
  it is a genuine 100/4 block or one from any other Austin/BMC with the sam=
e=20
  basic engine, and 2 any guidance on price tag?<u></u><u></u></span></p>
  <p><span lang=3D"EN-GB">Any guidance=20
  thankfully accepted.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
  <p><span lang=3D"EN-GB"><u></u><u></u></span>=C2=A0</p>
  <p><span lang=3D"EN-GB">Best regards=20
  <u></u><u></u></span></p>
  <p><span lang=3D"EN-GB">Sven<u></u><u></u></span></p>
  <p><span lang=3D"EN-GB">Ex BJ8 now =E2=80=9Conly=E2=80=9D=20
  MMM M.G.s<u></u><u></u></span></p>
  <p><span style=3D"font-size:11pt;font-family:calibri,sans-serif;line-heig=
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