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Re: [Healeys] Seat slide packing piece

To: "'Mark Donaldson'" <ardmorebusiness@xtra.co.nz>, <simon.lachlan@alexarevel.plus.com>, "'Healeys'" <healeys@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Seat slide packing piece
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Date: Wed, 6 Jan 2021 14:03:47 -0800
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Simon / Mark:

 

When my BJ8 was restored, we made new seat rail packing strips =96
intentionally slightly thicker in order to gain a bit more seat movement
clearance over the carpet allowing a thicker bit of insulation, which is
always desirable in a big Healey.  This is a very late BJ8 which had 1/4
inch strips from the factory, so I don=92t think that there was a productio=
n
change.   I=92m pretty sure that we wound up at 3/8 inches.

 

You should not have to plane down your wood strips.  I suggest that you
temporarily fit an easy to get to slide, with all hardware, and check that
the mounting stud threads are fully engaged on the t nut, or =91near as
damnit=92.

 

FWIW, we did not re-install the tar paper on this car, instead using a soun=
d
deadening, heat insulation concoction of our own design that easily lifts
out of the car if the interior gets damp.  These pieces (4) consist of 2
layers of non ribbed armacord (hardura?) sewn together with a thin sheet of=

lead sandwiched between and trimmed to fit tightly into the car.  The carpe=
t
snap studs are simply fastened to these assemblies, rather than the steel
floor.  (front only, the rear 2 on each side were deemed to be unnecessary)=
=2E

 

This system has worked very well for me.  I mention it to illustrate that
anything you do =96 other than as original - with carpet / insulation etc.
will affect seat to carpet clearance and possibly turn out to be bothersome=
=2E

 

Earl Kagna

Victoria BC

BJ8, BT7 tri-carb

 

 

 

 

 

From: Healeys <healeys-bounces@autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Mark Donaldson
Sent: Tuesday, January 5, 2021 10:37 PM
To: simon.lachlan@alexarevel.plus.com; 'Healeys' <healeys@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Seat slide packing piece

 

Hi, Simon,

 

FWIW, some repro wooden packers I purchased from AH Spares are 3/8=94 thick=
,
whereas the original packers, still in good nick, are =BC=94

I was considering taking the thicker (repro) ones to a cabinetmaker to have=

him run them through a thicknesser to bring them down to =BC=94

 

I wonder if there was a change to the greater thickness over the production=

years.   Facts and figures, anyone?

 

Mark

Ardmore, NZ

 

From: simon.lachlan@alexarevel.plus.com
<simon.lachlan@alexarevel.plus.com
Sent: Wednesday, 6 January 2021 6:46 a.m.
Subject: [Healeys] Seat slide packing piece

 

Still messing around with the slides. One issue being a certain reluctance
to commit to welding for the very first time.

So, just for my info, how thick are the wooden packing pieces that go under=

the slides. Mine are 3/8=94 as near as damnit.

Simon



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1><p class=3DMsoNormal>Simon / Mark:<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:=
p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>When my BJ8 was restored, we made ne=
w seat rail packing strips &#8211; intentionally slightly thicker in order =
to gain a bit more seat movement clearance over the carpet allowing a thick=
er bit of insulation, which is always desirable in a big Healey.=A0 This is=
 a very late BJ8 which had 1/4 inch strips from the factory, so I don&#8217=
;t think that there was a production change. =A0=A0I&#8217;m pretty sure th=
at we wound up at 3/8 inches.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp=
;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>You should not have to plane down your wood=
 strips.=A0 I suggest that you temporarily fit an easy to get to slide, wit=
h all hardware, and check that the mounting stud threads are fully engaged =
on the t nut, or &#8216;near as damnit&#8217;.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMso=
Normal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>FWIW, we did not re-instal=
l the tar paper on this car, instead using a sound deadening, heat insulati=
on concoction of our own design that easily lifts out of the car if the int=
erior gets damp.=A0 These pieces (4) consist of 2 layers of non ribbed arma=
cord (hardura?) sewn together with a thin sheet of lead sandwiched between =
and trimmed to fit tightly into the car.=A0 The carpet snap studs are simpl=
y fastened to these assemblies, rather than the steel floor.=A0 (front only=
, the rear 2 on each side were deemed to be unnecessary).<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>This system has=
 worked very well for me.=A0 I mention it to illustrate that anything you d=
o &#8211; other than as original - with carpet / insulation etc. will affec=
t seat to carpet clearance and possibly turn out to be bothersome.<o:p></o:=
p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>Earl K=
agna<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>Victoria BC<o:p></o:p></p><p class=
=3DMsoNormal>BJ8, BT7 tri-carb<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbs=
p;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal> =A0<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o=
:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMso=
Normal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><div style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid=
 #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b>From:</b>=
 Healeys &lt;healeys-bounces@autox.team.net&gt; <b>On Behalf Of </b>Mark Do=
naldson<br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, January 5, 2021 10:37 PM<br><b>To:</b> sim=
on.lachlan@alexarevel.plus.com; 'Healeys' &lt;healeys@autox.team.net&gt;<br=
><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys] Seat slide packing piece<o:p></o:p></p></div=
></div><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span=
 lang=3DEN-NZ style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif'>Hi=
, Simon,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-NZ style=
=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></sp=
an></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-NZ style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;fo=
nt-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif'>FWIW, some repro wooden packers I purchased =
from AH Spares are 3/8&#8221; thick, whereas the original packers, still in=
 good nick, are </span><span lang=3DEN-NZ style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-fa=
mily:"Tahoma",sans-serif'>=BC&#8221;</span><span lang=3DEN-NZ style=3D'font=
-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p clas=
s=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-NZ style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tah=
oma",sans-serif'>I was considering taking the thicker (repro) ones to a cab=
inetmaker to have him run them through a thicknesser to bring them down to =
</span><span lang=3DEN-NZ style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sa=
ns-serif'>=BC&#8221;</span><span lang=3DEN-NZ style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;fon=
t-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><s=
pan lang=3DEN-NZ style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif'=
><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-NZ style=
=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif'>I wonder if there was=
 a change to the greater thickness over the production years.&nbsp;&nbsp; F=
acts and figures, anyone?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span l=
ang=3DEN-NZ style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif'><o:p=
>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-NZ style=3D'fo=
nt-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif'>Mark<o:p></o:p></span></p><=
p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-NZ style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-famil=
y:"Tahoma",sans-serif'>Ardmore, NZ<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNorma=
l><span lang=3DEN-NZ style=3D'color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><d=
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in 0in 0in'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-=
NZ'>From:</span></b><span style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-NZ'> <a href=3D"=
mailto:simon.lachlan@alexarevel.plus.com";>simon.lachlan@alexarevel.plus.com=
</a> &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:simon.lachlan@alexarevel.plus.com";>simon.lachlan=
@alexarevel.plus.com</a>&gt; <br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, 6 January 2021 6:4=
6 a.m.<br><b>To:</b> 'Healeys' &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net=
">healeys@autox.team.net</a>&gt;<br><b>Subject:</b> [Healeys] Seat slide pa=
cking piece<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lan=
g=3DEN-NZ><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-=
GB>Still messing around with the slides. One issue being a certain reluctan=
ce to commit to welding for the very first time.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p cl=
ass=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-GB>So, just for my info, how thick are the =
wooden packing pieces that go under the slides. Mine are 3/8&#8221; as near=
 as damnit.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-GB>Si=
mon<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div id=3D"DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9F=
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