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Re: [Healeys] Fwd: Healey Shift Stick

To: Harold Manifold <manifold@telus.net>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Fwd: Healey Shift Stick
From: Perry Small via Healeys <healeys@autox.team.net>
Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2021 20:15:50 -0400
Cc: Healeys <healeys@autox.team.net>
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Later cars had 1/4 inch bolts to replace the roll pins.=20

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 18, 2021, at 6:59 PM, Harold Manifold via Healeys <healeys@autox.te=
am.net> wrote:
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> =EF=BB=BF
> Bob x 2,
> =20
> The gear shift is not held in place by bolts it is held in place with two r=
oll pins on each side. The roll pins I have measure 0.1755=E2=80=9D diameter=
 x 0.59=E2=80=9D long. The pins are removed by driving them into the round p=
art of the gear shift lever. BMC part number is AEA558, item #118 on the att=
ached. I just happened to remove a gear shift a couple of days ago.
> =20
> Harold
> =20
> From: Bob Spidell
> Sent: Monday, October 18, 2021 2:17 PM
> To: Healeys
> Subject: [Healeys] Fwd: Healey Shift Stick
> =20
> =20
> Forwarding to The List on behalf of Bob Begani:
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> ps. Bob, check your email client for 'unread messages' or similar, List em=
ails are arriving to me out of sequence.
>=20
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> -------- Forwarded Message --------
> Subject:
> Healey Shift Stick
> Date:
> Mon, 18 Oct 2021 17:05:36 -0400
> From:
> Bob Begani <rfbegani@gmail.com>
> To:
> Bob Spidell <bspidell@comcast.net>
> =20
>=20
> =20
> It seems I am not able to send to the Healey Group so I am writing to you d=
irectly because you just wrote to Tom regarding trans shift problems.=20
> =20
> Thanks for your help,
> =20
> Bob Begani
> =20
> From: rfbegani@gmail.com <rfbegani@gmail.com>=20
> Sent: Saturday, October 16, 2021 10:01 AM
> To: healeys-bounces@autox.team.net
> Subject: FW: BJ8 4 speed transmission center shifter
> =20
> Listeners:
> =20
> I wrote the letter below to the Group with no response, so maybe it went a=
stray.  Meanwhile, I researched the archives for information and found the f=
ollowing:
> =20
> the thing happened to me w/ my center shift BT7 MK2, except I was stuck in=

> reverse.  Very inconvenient   Shift lever just flopped around, and would n=
ot
> engage anything.
> The small bottom "ball" of the shift lever had come out of its socket in t=
he
> remote shift rod that goes into the top of the transmission.
> =20
> you have a Moss catalog, look at page 84, item #31.  It is N/A, but you
> can make one.  Pull off the console and the cover of the transmission. If
> my problem is the same as yours, one of the small "tits" on the end of the=

> bolt that goes into the side of the shift tower has broken off which allow=
s
> the shift lever to go past its normal range and disengage from its socket.=

> This "tit" fits into a slot in the side of the big ball on the shift lever=
,
> controlling its side-to-side motion.  If the lever goes too far to one sid=
e
> of the other, it comes out of the socket and flops around.
> Get a long bolt w/ the same threads as the broken one, check the overall
> length, turn the end down so it will fit into the slot, and you are done.
> =20
> So, I followed those instructions and found the tits were worn and no long=
er fitting into the groove in the ball. My friend the machinist was going to=
 make new bolts, when we decided to remove the thick lock washers and screwe=
d bolts into the groove of the ball.  With a little adjustment of the length=
 of the bolt into the grove, we got the shifter to go through all the gears.=
  My question to the Group, is this the finished product?  Or should we make=
 new longer bolts. Does and one know the length, and so on?
> =20
> As I looked on the Moss catalog, I noticed that there should have been a b=
ushing at the bottom of the of the shift stick.  The  into socket the shift s=
tick rides is not too worn, so I am hoping that a new bush and circle clip, b=
earing grease assembly and so on will get me back on the road.=20
> =20
> Let me know if you have any suggestions,
> =20
> Regards,
> =20
> Bob Begani
> BJ8 late model
> =20
> From: rfbegani@gmail.com <rfbegani@gmail.com>=20
> Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2021 11:48 AM
> To: healeys-bounces@autox.team.net
> Subject: BJ8 4 speed transmission center shifter
> =20
> I backed the Healey out of the garage into the street, shifted into first t=
o straight out, into neutral and moved the shifter to the left and noticed i=
t when all the way left and that it is loose.  The trans is locked in revers=
e.  When the engine is off the shifter is sloppy.  So, before I remove the s=
hift stick from the trans,  What should I do?
> =20
> =20
> Bob Begani=20
> 67 BJ8
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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3D=
utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto">Later cars had 1/4 inch bolts to replace th=
e roll pins.&nbsp;<br><br><div dir=3D"ltr">Sent from my iPhone</div><div dir=
=3D"ltr"><br><blockquote type=3D"cite">On Oct 18, 2021, at 6:59 PM, Harold M=
anifold via Healeys &lt;healeys@autox.team.net&gt; wrote:<br><br></blockquot=
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--></style><div class=3D"WordSection1"><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Bob x 2,</p><p=
 class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">The gear sh=
ift is not held in place by bolts it is held in place with two roll pins on e=
ach side. The roll pins I have measure 0.1755=E2=80=9D diameter x 0.59=E2=80=
=9D long. The pins are removed by driving them into the round part of the ge=
ar shift lever. BMC part number is AEA558, item #118 on the attached. I just=
 happened to remove a gear shift a couple of days ago.</p><p class=3D"MsoNor=
mal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Harold</p><p class=3D"MsoNo=
rmal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div style=3D"mso-element:para-border-div;border:=
none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in"><p class=3D"M=
soNormal" style=3D"border:none;padding:0in"><b>From: </b><a href=3D"mailto:b=
spidell@comcast.net">Bob Spidell</a><br><b>Sent: </b>Monday, October 18, 202=
1 2:17 PM<br><b>To: </b><a href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net";>Healeys</a=
><br><b>Subject: </b>[Healeys] Fwd: Healey Shift Stick</p></div><p class=3D"=
MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>=
<div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Forwarding to The List on behalf of Bob Begani:<=
br><br>ps. Bob, check your email client for 'unread messages' or similar, Li=
st emails are arriving to me out of sequence.<br><br><br>-------- Forwarded M=
essage -------- <o:p></o:p></p><table class=3D"MsoNormalTable" border=3D"0" c=
ellspacing=3D"0" cellpadding=3D"0"><tbody><tr><td nowrap=3D"" valign=3D"top"=
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yle=3D"text-align:right"><b>Subject: <o:p></o:p></b></p></td><td style=3D"pa=
dding:0in 0in 0in 0in"><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Healey Shift Stick<o:p></o:p><=
/p></td></tr><tr><td nowrap=3D"" valign=3D"top" style=3D"padding:0in 0in 0in=
 0in"><p class=3D"MsoNormal" align=3D"right" style=3D"text-align:right"><b>D=
ate: <o:p></o:p></b></p></td><td style=3D"padding:0in 0in 0in 0in"><p class=3D=
"MsoNormal">Mon, 18 Oct 2021 17:05:36 -0400<o:p></o:p></p></td></tr><tr><td n=
owrap=3D"" valign=3D"top" style=3D"padding:0in 0in 0in 0in"><p class=3D"MsoN=
ormal" align=3D"right" style=3D"text-align:right"><b>From: <o:p></o:p></b></=
p></td><td style=3D"padding:0in 0in 0in 0in"><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Bob Bega=
ni <a href=3D"mailto:rfbegani@gmail.com";>&lt;rfbegani@gmail.com&gt;</a><o:p>=
</o:p></p></td></tr><tr><td nowrap=3D"" valign=3D"top" style=3D"padding:0in 0=
in 0in 0in"><p class=3D"MsoNormal" align=3D"right" style=3D"text-align:right=
"><b>To: <o:p></o:p></b></p></td><td style=3D"padding:0in 0in 0in 0in"><p cl=
ass=3D"MsoNormal">Bob Spidell <a href=3D"mailto:bspidell@comcast.net";>&lt;bs=
pidell@comcast.net&gt;</a><o:p></o:p></p></td></tr></tbody></table><p class=3D=
"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><p clas=
s=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:18.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot=
;,sans-serif">&nbsp;</span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-si=
ze:18.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif">It seems I am not able t=
o send to the Healey Group so I am writing to you directly because you just w=
rote to Tom regarding trans shift problems.&nbsp; </span></p><p class=3D"Mso=
Normal"><span style=3D"font-size:18.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-s=
erif">&nbsp;</span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:18.0p=
t;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif">Thanks for your help,</span></p>=
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:18.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ari=
al&quot;,sans-serif">&nbsp;</span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"=
font-size:18.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif">Bob Begani</span>=
</p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:18.0pt;font-family:&quot=
;Arial&quot;,sans-serif">&nbsp;</span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b>From:</b=
> <a href=3D"mailto:rfbegani@gmail.com";><span style=3D"color:#0563C1">rfbega=
ni@gmail.com</span></a> &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:rfbegani@gmail.com";><span styl=
e=3D"color:#0563C1">rfbegani@gmail.com</span></a>&gt; <br><b>Sent:</b> Satur=
day, October 16, 2021 10:01 AM<br><b>To:</b> <a href=3D"mailto:healeys-bounc=
es@autox.team.net"><span style=3D"color:#0563C1">healeys-bounces@autox.team.=
net</span></a><br><b>Subject:</b> FW: BJ8 4 speed transmission center shifte=
r</p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">&nbsp;</p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"=
font-size:20.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif">Listeners:</span>=
</p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:20.0pt;font-family:&quot=
;Arial&quot;,sans-serif">&nbsp;</span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=
=3D"font-size:20.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif">I wrote the l=
etter below to the Group with no response, so maybe it went astray.&nbsp; Me=
anwhile, I researched the archives for information and found the following:<=
/span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:20.0pt;font-family=
:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif">&nbsp;</span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span=
 style=3D"font-size:20.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif">the thi=
ng happened to me w/ my center shift BT7 MK2, except I was stuck in </span><=
/p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:20.0pt;font-family:&quot;=
Arial&quot;,sans-serif">reverse.&nbsp; Very inconvenient&nbsp;&nbsp; Shift l=
ever just flopped around, and would not </span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><s=
pan style=3D"font-size:20.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif">enga=
ge anything.</span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:20.0p=
t;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif">The small bottom "ball" of the s=
hift lever had come out of its socket in the </span></p><p class=3D"MsoNorma=
l"><span style=3D"font-size:20.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif"=
>remote shift rod that goes into the top of the transmission.</span></p><p c=
lass=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:20.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&q=
uot;,sans-serif">&nbsp;</span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font=
-size:20.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif">you have a Moss catal=
og, look at page 84, item #31.&nbsp; It is N/A, but you </span></p><p class=3D=
"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:20.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sa=
ns-serif">can make one.&nbsp; Pull off the console and the cover of the tran=
smission. If </span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:20.0=
pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif">my problem is the same as yours=
, one of the small "tits" on the end of the </span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal=
"><span style=3D"font-size:20.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif">=
bolt that goes into the side of the shift tower has broken off which allows <=
/span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:20.0pt;font-family=
:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif">the shift lever to go past its normal range a=
nd disengage from its socket. </span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D=
"font-size:20.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif">This "tit" fits i=
nto a slot in the side of the big ball on the shift lever, </span></p><p cla=
ss=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:20.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quo=
t;,sans-serif">controlling its side-to-side motion.&nbsp; If the lever goes t=
oo far to one side </span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-siz=
e:20.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif">of the other, it comes ou=
t of the socket and flops around.</span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span sty=
le=3D"font-size:20.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif">Get a long b=
olt w/ the same threads as the broken one, check the overall </span></p><p c=
lass=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:20.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&q=
uot;,sans-serif">length, turn the end down so it will fit into the slot, and=
 you are done.</span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:20.=
0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif">&nbsp;</span></p><p class=3D"M=
soNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:20.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans=
-serif">So, I followed those instructions and found the tits were worn and n=
o longer fitting into the groove in the ball. My friend the machinist was go=
ing to make new bolts, when we decided to remove the thick lock washers and s=
crewed bolts into the groove of the ball.&nbsp; With a little adjustment of t=
he length of the bolt into the grove, we got the shifter to go through all t=
he gears.&nbsp; My question to the Group, is this the finished product?&nbsp=
; Or should we make new longer bolts. Does and one know the length, and so o=
n?</span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:20.0pt;font-fam=
ily:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif">&nbsp;</span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><s=
pan style=3D"font-size:20.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif">As I=
 looked on the Moss catalog, I noticed that there should have been a bushing=
 at the bottom of the of the shift stick.&nbsp; The &nbsp;into socket the sh=
ift stick rides is not too worn, so I am hoping that a new bush and circle c=
lip, bearing grease assembly and so on will get me back on the road.&nbsp; <=
/span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:20.0pt;font-family=
:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif">&nbsp;</span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span=
 style=3D"font-size:20.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif">Let me k=
now if you have any suggestions,</span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span styl=
e=3D"font-size:20.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif">&nbsp;</span=
></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:20.0pt;font-family:&quo=
t;Arial&quot;,sans-serif">Regards,</span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span st=
yle=3D"font-size:20.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif">&nbsp;</sp=
an></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:20.0pt;font-family:&q=
uot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif">Bob Begani</span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><spa=
n style=3D"font-size:20.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif">BJ8 la=
te model</span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:20.0pt;fo=
nt-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif">&nbsp;</span></p><p class=3D"MsoNorm=
al"><b>From:</b> <a href=3D"mailto:rfbegani@gmail.com";><span style=3D"color:=
#0563C1">rfbegani@gmail.com</span></a> &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:rfbegani@gmail.=
com"><span style=3D"color:#0563C1">rfbegani@gmail.com</span></a>&gt; <br><b>=
Sent:</b> Thursday, October 14, 2021 11:48 AM<br><b>To:</b> <a href=3D"mailt=
o:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net"><span style=3D"color:#0563C1">healeys-boun=
ces@autox.team.net</span></a><br><b>Subject:</b> BJ8 4 speed transmission ce=
nter shifter</p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">&nbsp;</p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><spa=
n style=3D"font-size:20.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif">I back=
ed the Healey out of the garage into the street, shifted into first to strai=
ght out, into neutral and moved the shifter to the left and noticed it when a=
ll the way left and that it is loose.&nbsp; The trans is locked in reverse.&=
nbsp; When the engine is off the shifter is sloppy.&nbsp; So, before I remov=
e the shift stick from the trans,&nbsp; What should I do?</span></p><p class=
=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:20.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;=
,sans-serif">&nbsp;</span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-siz=
e:20.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif">&nbsp;</span></p><p class=
=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:20.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;=
,sans-serif">Bob Begani&nbsp; </span></p></div></div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">=
<span style=3D"font-size:20.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif">67=
 BJ8</span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div>&lt;Pl=
ate FC_ Illustration_ A8442.pdf&gt;</div><span>_____________________________=
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