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Re: [Healeys] Fwd: Healey Shift Stick

To: healeyguy@aol.com, bspidell@comcast.net, healeys@autox.team.net, rfbegani@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Fwd: Healey Shift Stick
From: Perry Small via Healeys <healeys@autox.team.net>
Date: Tue, 19 Oct 2021 07:40:27 -0400
Delivered-to: mharc@autox.team.net
Delivered-to: healeys@autox.team.net
References: <1335981311.2264821.1634602830435@mail.yahoo.com>
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It is not a washer that is depicted in the Moss Motors catalog or the repair=
 manuals but a circlip ( spring wire) that holds the two halves of the bushi=
ng together.=20
P

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 18, 2021, at 8:21 PM, healeyguy@aol.com wrote:
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> =EF=BB=BF
> Later cars had 1/4 inch bolts with extended tips in place of the roll pins=
.
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>=20
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Harold Manifold via Healeys <healeys@autox.team.net>
> To: Bob Spidell <bspidell@comcast.net>; Healeys <healeys@autox.team.net>; r=
fbegani@gmail.com <rfbegani@gmail.com>
> Sent: Mon, Oct 18, 2021 6:56 pm
> Subject: Re: [Healeys] Fwd: Healey Shift Stick
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> Bob x 2,
> =20
> The gear shift is not held in place by bolts it is held in place with two r=
oll pins on each side. The roll pins I have measure 0.1755=E2=80=9D diameter=
 x 0.59=E2=80=9D long. The pins are removed by driving them into the round p=
art of the gear shift lever. BMC part number is AEA558, item #118 on the att=
ached. I just happened to remove a gear shift a couple of days ago.
> =20
> Harold
> =20
> From: Bob Spidell
> Sent: Monday, October 18, 2021 2:17 PM
> To: Healeys
> Subject: [Healeys] Fwd: Healey Shift Stick
> =20
> =20
> Forwarding to The List on behalf of Bob Begani:
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> ps. Bob, check your email client for 'unread messages' or similar, List em=
ails are arriving to me out of sequence.
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> -------- Forwarded Message --------
> Subject:
> Healey Shift Stick
> Date:
> Mon, 18 Oct 2021 17:05:36 -0400
> From:
> Bob Begani <rfbegani@gmail.com>
> To:
> Bob Spidell <bspidell@comcast.net>
> =20
> =20
> It seems I am not able to send to the Healey Group so I am writing to you d=
irectly because you just wrote to Tom regarding trans shift problems.=20
> =20
> Thanks for your help,
> =20
> Bob Begani
> =20
> From: rfbegani@gmail.com <rfbegani@gmail.com>=20
> Sent: Saturday, October 16, 2021 10:01 AM
> To: healeys-bounces@autox.team.net
> Subject: FW: BJ8 4 speed transmission center shifter
> =20
> Listeners:
> =20
> I wrote the letter below to the Group with no response, so maybe it went a=
stray.  Meanwhile, I researched the archives for information and found the f=
ollowing:
> =20
> the thing happened to me w/ my center shift BT7 MK2, except I was stuck in=

> reverse.  Very inconvenient   Shift lever just flopped around, and would n=
ot
> engage anything.
> The small bottom "ball" of the shift lever had come out of its socket in t=
he
> remote shift rod that goes into the top of the transmission.
> =20
> you have a Moss catalog, look at page 84, item #31.  It is N/A, but you
> can make one.  Pull off the console and the cover of the transmission. If
> my problem is the same as yours, one of the small "tits" on the end of the=

> bolt that goes into the side of the shift tower has broken off which allow=
s
> the shift lever to go past its normal range and disengage from its socket.=

> This "tit" fits into a slot in the side of the big ball on the shift lever=
,
> controlling its side-to-side motion.  If the lever goes too far to one sid=
e
> of the other, it comes out of the socket and flops around.
> Get a long bolt w/ the same threads as the broken one, check the overall
> length, turn the end down so it will fit into the slot, and you are done.
> =20
> So, I followed those instructions and found the tits were worn and no long=
er fitting into the groove in the ball. My friend the machinist was going to=
 make new bolts, when we decided to remove the thick lock washers and screwe=
d bolts into the groove of the ball.  With a little adjustment of the length=
 of the bolt into the grove, we got the shifter to go through all the gears.=
  My question to the Group, is this the finished product?  Or should we make=
 new longer bolts. Does and one know the length, and so on?
> =20
> As I looked on the Moss catalog, I noticed that there should have been a b=
ushing at the bottom of the of the shift stick.  The  into socket the shift s=
tick rides is not too worn, so I am hoping that a new bush and circle clip, b=
earing grease assembly and so on will get me back on the road.=20
> =20
> Let me know if you have any suggestions,
> =20
> Regards,
> =20
> Bob Begani
> BJ8 late model
> =20
> From: rfbegani@gmail.com <rfbegani@gmail.com>=20
> Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2021 11:48 AM
> To: healeys-bounces@autox.team.net
> Subject: BJ8 4 speed transmission center shifter
> =20
> I backed the Healey out of the garage into the street, shifted into first t=
o straight out, into neutral and moved the shifter to the left and noticed i=
t when all the way left and that it is loose.  The trans is locked in revers=
e.  When the engine is off the shifter is sloppy.  So, before I remove the s=
hift stick from the trans,  What should I do?
> =20
> =20
> Bob Begani=20
> 67 BJ8
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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3D=
utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto">It is not a washer that is depicted in the M=
oss Motors catalog or the repair manuals but a circlip ( spring wire) that h=
olds the two halves of the bushing together.&nbsp;<div>P<br><br><div dir=3D"=
ltr">Sent from my iPhone</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br><blockquote type=3D"cite"=
>On Oct 18, 2021, at 8:21 PM, healeyguy@aol.com wrote:<br><br></blockquote><=
/div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div dir=3D"ltr">=EF=BB=BF
<div style=3D"color:black;font: 10pt Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;">Later ca=
rs had 1/4 inch bolts with extended tips in place of the roll pins.<br>
<br>
<br>

<div style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica;font-size:10pt;color:black"><font s=
ize=3D"2">-----Original Message-----<br>
From: Harold Manifold via Healeys &lt;healeys@autox.team.net&gt;<br>
To: Bob Spidell &lt;bspidell@comcast.net&gt;; Healeys &lt;healeys@autox.team=
.net&gt;; rfbegani@gmail.com &lt;rfbegani@gmail.com&gt;<br>
Sent: Mon, Oct 18, 2021 6:56 pm<br>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Fwd: Healey Shift Stick<br>
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<div class=3D"yiv5548901467MsoNormal">Bob x 2,</div>

<div class=3D"yiv5548901467MsoNormal"> &nbsp;</div>

<div class=3D"yiv5548901467MsoNormal">The gear shift is not held in place by=
 bolts it is held in place with two roll pins on each side. The roll pins I h=
ave measure 0.1755=E2=80=9D diameter x 0.59=E2=80=9D long. The pins are remo=
ved by driving them into the round part of the gear shift lever. BMC part nu=
mber is AEA558, item #118 on the attached. I just happened to remove a gear s=
hift a couple of days ago.</div>

<div class=3D"yiv5548901467MsoNormal"> &nbsp;</div>

<div class=3D"yiv5548901467MsoNormal">Harold</div>

<div class=3D"yiv5548901467MsoNormal"> &nbsp;</div>

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<div>
<div class=3D"yiv5548901467MsoNormal">Forwarding to The List on behalf of Bo=
b Begani:<br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none">ps. Bob, check your email cli=
ent for 'unread messages' or similar, List emails are arriving to me out of s=
equence.<br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none">-------- Fo=
rwarded Message -------- </div>
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ght;"><b>Subject: </b></div>
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<div class=3D"yiv5548901467MsoNormal">Healey Shift Stick</div>
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ght;"><b>Date: </b></div>
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<div class=3D"yiv5548901467MsoNormal">Mon, 18 Oct 2021 17:05:36 -0400</div>
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ght;"><b>From: </b></div>
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<div class=3D"yiv5548901467MsoNormal">Bob Begani <a rel=3D"nofollow noopener=
 noreferrer" shape=3D"rect" ymailto=3D"mailto:rfbegani@gmail.com"; target=3D"=
_blank" href=3D"mailto:rfbegani@gmail.com";>&lt;rfbegani@gmail.com&gt;</a></d=
iv>
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ght;"><b>To: </b></div>
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<div class=3D"yiv5548901467MsoNormal">Bob Spidell <a rel=3D"nofollow noopene=
r noreferrer" shape=3D"rect" ymailto=3D"mailto:bspidell@comcast.net"; target=3D=
"_blank" href=3D"mailto:bspidell@comcast.net";>&lt;bspidell@comcast.net&gt;</=
a></div>
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<div class=3D"yiv5548901467MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt;"> &nbsp=
;</div>

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<div class=3D"yiv5548901467MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:18.0pt;font-f=
amily:sans-serif;">&nbsp;</span></div>

<div class=3D"yiv5548901467MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:18.0pt;font-f=
amily:sans-serif;">It seems I am not able to send to the Healey Group so I a=
m writing to you directly because you just wrote to Tom regarding trans shif=
t problems.&nbsp; </span></div>

<div class=3D"yiv5548901467MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:18.0pt;font-f=
amily:sans-serif;">&nbsp;</span></div>

<div class=3D"yiv5548901467MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:18.0pt;font-f=
amily:sans-serif;">Thanks for your help,</span></div>

<div class=3D"yiv5548901467MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:18.0pt;font-f=
amily:sans-serif;">&nbsp;</span></div>

<div class=3D"yiv5548901467MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:18.0pt;font-f=
amily:sans-serif;">Bob Begani</span></div>

<div class=3D"yiv5548901467MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:18.0pt;font-f=
amily:sans-serif;">&nbsp;</span></div>

<div class=3D"yiv5548901467MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> <a rel=3D"nofollow noopen=
er noreferrer" shape=3D"rect" ymailto=3D"mailto:rfbegani@gmail.com"; target=3D=
"_blank" href=3D"mailto:rfbegani@gmail.com";><span style=3D"color:#0563C1;">r=
fbegani@gmail.com</span></a> &lt;<a rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer" sha=
pe=3D"rect" ymailto=3D"mailto:rfbegani@gmail.com"; target=3D"_blank" href=3D"=
mailto:rfbegani@gmail.com";><span style=3D"color:#0563C1;">rfbegani@gmail.com=
</span></a>&gt; <br clear=3D"none"><b>Sent:</b> Saturday, October 16, 2021 1=
0:01 AM<br clear=3D"none"><b>To:</b> <a rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer"=
 shape=3D"rect" ymailto=3D"mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net"; target=3D"=
_blank" href=3D"mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net";><span style=3D"color:=
#0563C1;">healeys-bounces@autox.team.net</span></a><br clear=3D"none"><b>Sub=
ject:</b> FW: BJ8 4 speed transmission center shifter</div>

<div class=3D"yiv5548901467MsoNormal">&nbsp;</div>

<div class=3D"yiv5548901467MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:20.0pt;font-f=
amily:sans-serif;">Listeners:</span></div>

<div class=3D"yiv5548901467MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:20.0pt;font-f=
amily:sans-serif;">&nbsp;</span></div>

<div class=3D"yiv5548901467MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:20.0pt;font-f=
amily:sans-serif;">I wrote the letter below to the Group with no response, s=
o maybe it went astray.&nbsp; Meanwhile, I researched the archives for infor=
mation and found the following:</span></div>

<div class=3D"yiv5548901467MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:20.0pt;font-f=
amily:sans-serif;">&nbsp;</span></div>

<div class=3D"yiv5548901467MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:20.0pt;font-f=
amily:sans-serif;">the thing happened to me w/ my center shift BT7 MK2, exce=
pt I was stuck in </span></div>

<div class=3D"yiv5548901467MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:20.0pt;font-f=
amily:sans-serif;">reverse.&nbsp; Very inconvenient&nbsp;&nbsp; Shift lever j=
ust flopped around, and would not </span></div>

<div class=3D"yiv5548901467MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:20.0pt;font-f=
amily:sans-serif;">engage anything.</span></div>

<div class=3D"yiv5548901467MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:20.0pt;font-f=
amily:sans-serif;">The small bottom "ball" of the shift lever had come out o=
f its socket in the </span></div>

<div class=3D"yiv5548901467MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:20.0pt;font-f=
amily:sans-serif;">remote shift rod that goes into the top of the transmissi=
on.</span></div>

<div class=3D"yiv5548901467MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:20.0pt;font-f=
amily:sans-serif;">&nbsp;</span></div>

<div class=3D"yiv5548901467MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:20.0pt;font-f=
amily:sans-serif;">you have a Moss catalog, look at page 84, item #31.&nbsp;=
 It is N/A, but you </span></div>

<div class=3D"yiv5548901467MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:20.0pt;font-f=
amily:sans-serif;">can make one.&nbsp; Pull off the console and the cover of=
 the transmission. If </span></div>

<div class=3D"yiv5548901467MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:20.0pt;font-f=
amily:sans-serif;">my problem is the same as yours, one of the small "tits" o=
n the end of the </span></div>

<div class=3D"yiv5548901467MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:20.0pt;font-f=
amily:sans-serif;">bolt that goes into the side of the shift tower has broke=
n off which allows </span></div>

<div class=3D"yiv5548901467MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:20.0pt;font-f=
amily:sans-serif;">the shift lever to go past its normal range and disengage=
 from its socket. </span></div>

<div class=3D"yiv5548901467MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:20.0pt;font-f=
amily:sans-serif;">This "tit" fits into a slot in the side of the big ball o=
n the shift lever, </span></div>

<div class=3D"yiv5548901467MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:20.0pt;font-f=
amily:sans-serif;">controlling its side-to-side motion.&nbsp; If the lever g=
oes too far to one side </span></div>

<div class=3D"yiv5548901467MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:20.0pt;font-f=
amily:sans-serif;">of the other, it comes out of the socket and flops around=
.</span></div>

<div class=3D"yiv5548901467MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:20.0pt;font-f=
amily:sans-serif;">Get a long bolt w/ the same threads as the broken one, ch=
eck the overall </span></div>

<div class=3D"yiv5548901467MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:20.0pt;font-f=
amily:sans-serif;">length, turn the end down so it will fit into the slot, a=
nd you are done.</span></div>

<div class=3D"yiv5548901467MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:20.0pt;font-f=
amily:sans-serif;">&nbsp;</span></div>

<div class=3D"yiv5548901467MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:20.0pt;font-f=
amily:sans-serif;">So, I followed those instructions and found the tits were=
 worn and no longer fitting into the groove in the ball. My friend the machi=
nist was going to make new bolts, when we decided to remove the thick lock w=
ashers and screwed bolts into the groove of the ball.&nbsp; With a little ad=
justment of the length of the bolt into the grove, we got the shifter to go t=
hrough all the gears.&nbsp; My question to the Group, is this the finished p=
roduct?&nbsp; Or should we make new longer bolts. Does and one know the leng=
th, and so on?</span></div>

<div class=3D"yiv5548901467MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:20.0pt;font-f=
amily:sans-serif;">&nbsp;</span></div>

<div class=3D"yiv5548901467MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:20.0pt;font-f=
amily:sans-serif;">As I looked on the Moss catalog, I noticed that there sho=
uld have been a bushing at the bottom of the of the shift stick.&nbsp; The &=
nbsp;into socket the shift stick rides is not too worn, so I am hoping that a=
 new bush and circle clip, bearing grease assembly and so on will get me bac=
k on the road.&nbsp; </span></div>

<div class=3D"yiv5548901467MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:20.0pt;font-f=
amily:sans-serif;">&nbsp;</span></div>

<div class=3D"yiv5548901467MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:20.0pt;font-f=
amily:sans-serif;">Let me know if you have any suggestions,</span></div>

<div class=3D"yiv5548901467MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:20.0pt;font-f=
amily:sans-serif;">&nbsp;</span></div>

<div class=3D"yiv5548901467MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:20.0pt;font-f=
amily:sans-serif;">Regards,</span></div>

<div class=3D"yiv5548901467MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:20.0pt;font-f=
amily:sans-serif;">&nbsp;</span></div>

<div class=3D"yiv5548901467MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:20.0pt;font-f=
amily:sans-serif;">Bob Begani</span></div>

<div class=3D"yiv5548901467MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:20.0pt;font-f=
amily:sans-serif;">BJ8 late model</span></div>

<div class=3D"yiv5548901467MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:20.0pt;font-f=
amily:sans-serif;">&nbsp;</span></div>

<div class=3D"yiv5548901467MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> <a rel=3D"nofollow noopen=
er noreferrer" shape=3D"rect" ymailto=3D"mailto:rfbegani@gmail.com"; target=3D=
"_blank" href=3D"mailto:rfbegani@gmail.com";><span style=3D"color:#0563C1;">r=
fbegani@gmail.com</span></a> &lt;<a rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer" sha=
pe=3D"rect" ymailto=3D"mailto:rfbegani@gmail.com"; target=3D"_blank" href=3D"=
mailto:rfbegani@gmail.com";><span style=3D"color:#0563C1;">rfbegani@gmail.com=
</span></a>&gt; <br clear=3D"none"><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, October 14, 2021 1=
1:48 AM<br clear=3D"none"><b>To:</b> <a rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer"=
 shape=3D"rect" ymailto=3D"mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net"; target=3D"=
_blank" href=3D"mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net";><span style=3D"color:=
#0563C1;">healeys-bounces@autox.team.net</span></a><br clear=3D"none"><b>Sub=
ject:</b> BJ8 4 speed transmission center shifter</div>

<div class=3D"yiv5548901467MsoNormal">&nbsp;</div>

<div class=3D"yiv5548901467MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:20.0pt;font-f=
amily:sans-serif;">I backed the Healey out of the garage into the street, sh=
ifted into first to straight out, into neutral and moved the shifter to the l=
eft and noticed it when all the way left and that it is loose.&nbsp; The tra=
ns is locked in reverse.&nbsp; When the engine is off the shifter is sloppy.=
&nbsp; So, before I remove the shift stick from the trans,&nbsp; What should=
 I do?</span></div>

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amily:sans-serif;">&nbsp;</span></div>

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amily:sans-serif;">&nbsp;</span></div>

<div class=3D"yiv5548901467MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:20.0pt;font-f=
amily:sans-serif;">Bob Begani&nbsp; </span></div>
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<div class=3D"yiv5548901467MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:20.0pt;font-f=
amily:sans-serif;">67 BJ8</span></div>

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