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Re: [Healeys] Clutch plate

To: "simon.lachlan@alexarevel.plus.com" <simon.lachlan@alexarevel.plus.com>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Clutch plate
From: Harold Manifold via Healeys <healeys@autox.team.net>
Date: Sun, 7 Nov 2021 07:59:48 -0800
Cc: Healeys <healeys@autox.team.net>
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Thread-topic: RE: [Healeys] Clutch plate
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'word-wrap:break-word'><div class=3DWordSection1><p class=3DMsoNormal>I wou=
ld sort out the hydraulics first and then if it still doesn=E2=80=99t move =
the clutch pressure plate mechanism may be seized. The clutch plate would h=
ave to be stuck to both the pressure plate and the flywheel and or the tran=
smission shaft to prevent movement.</p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:=
p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>Harold<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&=
nbsp;</o:p></p><div style=3D'mso-element:para-border-div;border:none;border=
-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=3DMsoNormal st=
yle=3D'border:none;padding:0in'><b>From: </b><a href=3D"mailto:healeys@auto=
x.team.net">Simon Lachlan via Healeys</a><br><b>Sent: </b>Sunday, November =
7, 2021 1:43 AM<br><b>Cc: </b><a href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net";>Hea=
leys</a><br><b>Subject: </b>Re: [Healeys] Clutch plate</p></div><p class=3D=
MsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-GB>Afte=
r/during a protracted battle with my clutch, I can confirm that it takes a =
lot of effort to move the fork by hand. A LOT. I used a lever and got virtu=
ally nowhere, but then, it seems, I=E2=80=99d been sold the wrong clutch co=
ver.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-GB>What did =
impress me was the comparison between how hard/impossible it was to move by=
 hand and how easy it was to get it to move with the pedal once the hydraul=
ics were 100%. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-G=
B>Certainly, I=E2=80=99d want to convince myself that the hydraulics were 1=
00% before assuming that the disk was stuck.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=
=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-GB>Simon<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNo=
rmal><span lang=3DEN-GB>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p><div><div style=3D'bord=
er:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=
=3DMsoNormal><b>From:</b> Healeys &lt;healeys-bounces@autox.team.net&gt; <b=
>On Behalf Of </b>Bob Spidell via Healeys<br><b>Sent:</b> 07 November 2021 =
03:56<br><b>To:</b> healeys@autox.team.net<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys]=
 Clutch plate<span lang=3DEN-GB><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=
=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-GB>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoN=
ormal style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span lang=3DEN-GB>re: &quot;Would thi=
s happen if the clutch disc was stuck to the flywheel?&quot;<br><br>I think=
 if it was just the clutch disk stuck to flywheel you'd still get at least =
some movement of the pedal. Early cars used coil springs in the cover plate=
 to hold the disk firm to the flywheel, and later cars used diaphragm 'spri=
ngs.' I think with either you'd at least be able to move the pedal until th=
e springs reached their limit of travel (or you left leg reached its limit =
of strength). <br><br>It's a long shot SWAG, but since the car has sat for =
a long time it's conceivable the fluid in the line has gelled and/or crysta=
llized to the point it prevents flow to the slave cylinder (I have had BF g=
ell up). I'm not sure you can move the release bearing fork much by hand, t=
hough I haven't tried; those are some strong springs in the cover plate.<br=
><br>Bob<o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-GB>=
On 11/6/2021 7:52 PM, Don via Healeys wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><bl=
ockquote style=3D'margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=3DMsoNorma=
l><span lang=3DEN-GB>Sorry I didn=E2=80=99t finish my story about the fixes=
 I=E2=80=99ve done so far . When I first got the car and I tried to push th=
e clutch pedal it wouldn=E2=80=99t move. &nbsp;After removing the carbs , w=
hich I=E2=80=99m going to rebuild I was able to access the clutch master cy=
linder. After removing the lines to the master cylinder i was able to push =
the pedal to the floor . I=E2=80=99m replacing the lines to both the clutch=
 and brake master cylinder. I=E2=80=99m replacing both master cylinders . I=
=E2=80=99m replacing the hydraulic fluid tank as it leaks. When I got under=
 the car and looked at the clutch slave cylinder, which I=E2=80=99m replaci=
ng I can=E2=80=99t move the clutch fork. I can=E2=80=99t budge it , I can=
=E2=80=99t move the piston rod . I=E2=80=99m going to finish rebuilding, re=
placing everything in both the clutch and brake hydraulics system. I=E2=80=
=99m just Puzzled as to why won=E2=80=99t move . Would this happen if the c=
lutch disc was stuck to the flywheel? &nbsp;I may answer my own question th=
e farther I get into the rebuild. I don=E2=80=99t want to need to replace t=
he clutch.&nbsp; <o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'm=
argin-bottom:12.0pt'><span lang=3DEN-GB>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;D=
on&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-GB>=
Sent from my iPhone<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal st=
yle=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span lang=3DEN-GB><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p=
><blockquote style=3D'margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=3DMsoN=
ormal style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span lang=3DEN-GB>On Nov 6, 2021, at =
10:08 PM, <a href=3D"mailto:gradea1@charter.net";>gradea1@charter.net</a> wr=
ote:<o:p></o:p></span></p></blockquote></div><blockquote style=3D'margin-to=
p:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-GB>=
=EF=BB=BFTwelve years could have built up some &quot;goo&quot; in the clutc=
h master cylinder and prevent it from moving the piston. As Perry says, cou=
ld also be the same issue in the slave. However, the clutch is hydraulic an=
d the pedal does not move any mechanics (other than the piston rod) so it c=
an't be mechanically hung up. The clutch disc is another issue which may sh=
ow up later, and I would wonder if the brakes are functioning? Moisture rea=
lly plays havoc with hydraulics especially if the car is not in a condition=
ed space. <o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-G=
B>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'marg=
in-bottom:12.0pt'><span lang=3DEN-GB>This is a good time to change all the =
fluid, replace hoses, rebuild or replace cylinders-fun stuff. Hank<o:p></o:=
p></span></p><p><span lang=3DEN-GB>----------------------------------------=
-<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-GB>From: &quot;=
Perry Small via Healeys&quot; <br>To: &quot;Don Day&quot;<br>Cc: &quot;heal=
ey list&quot;<br>Sent: Saturday November 6 2021 6:48:37PM<br>Subject: Re: [=
Healeys] Clutch plate<br><br>Don<br>Maybe the slave cylinder is locked up. =
Pull the pin at the slave and see if the clutch pedal will move.<br>P<br><b=
r>Sent from my iPhone<br><br>&gt; On Nov 6, 2021, at 7:36 PM, Don Day via H=
ealeys <a href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net";>&lt;healeys@autox.team.net=
&gt;</a> wrote:<br>&gt;<br>&gt; =EF=BB=BFHi List<br>&gt; If a 65 1/2 BJ8Hea=
ley has been sitting for over 12 years , Allegedly in a garage and I=E2=80=
=99m thinking the clutch plate could be stuck to the flywheel, can=E2=80=99=
t push clutch pedal in , can it be freed up .<br>&gt; Thanks Don<br>&gt;<br=
>&gt;<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></blockquote></div></blockquote><p c=
lass=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-GB>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3D=
MsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div></body></html>=


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