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Yes, I guess I should have mentioned that all along I=E2=80=99ve been =
using oil with ZDDP, and specifically Valvoline VR1 since the lifter =
replacement.
> On Oct 9, 2025, at 1:14=E2=80=AFPM, Karl Robertson =
<robertsonpdt@comcast.net> wrote:
>=20
> Hello guys!
> First let me say that I am not a Healey guy, but don't count me out =
altogether!
> All my cars have Flat Tappet / Bucket engines, a Alfa Romeo Montreal, =
a Ferrari 308 and also a Jaguar XK120. The first 2 have V8 engines, and =
the Jaguar has a straight 6. But all of them share one thing in common. =
All have Lifters with Flat Tops.
> I have been using Valvoline VR1 with Zinc in it and even using a Zinc =
Additive (ZDDP). This is one ingredient missing from a lot of oils =
available today and an absolute must for Flat Tappet engines.
> Sorry to come in here late to the party, but I'm just throwing it out =
there to consider if you haven't already done so. Good luck!
> =20
> Karl Robertson
> Michigan, USA.
>> On 10/09/2025 12:44 PM EDT Stephen Hutchings <s.hutchings@rogers.com =
>> =20
>> =20
>> When I had my cam ground during the restoration, the machine shop =
recommended that I have the original lifters resurfaced and hardened, =
rather than buy replacements.
>> This is going back a few years and there are now more options =
available. Some of those lifters pitted after 5, or 6 thousand miles, =
and some looked fine.
>> I decided that the ones that pitted were not hardened properly=E2=80=A6=
an assumption I know!
>> I corresponded with Mike Salter who was having lifter problems of his =
own, and in the end I replaced the whole set with the modified ones from =
AH spares because I no longer trusted the re-hardened set- and also =
removed the inner valve springs.
>> =20
>> After a few hundred miles the new lifters looked OK, but I=E2=80=99m =
about to check them again, this time after a couple of thousand miles.
>> I=E2=80=99ve been doing a lot of reading about bucket lifters, =
tubular push rods, etc. and it seems that some people are saying the =
current replacement lifters are wearing prematurely because they are not =
domed properly and aren=E2=80=99t rotating.
>> Just to add to the confusion, when I removed the set that were =
pitting, I could see by the pattern on the wear surface that indeed some =
didn=E2=80=99t seem to be rotating, but had no visible wear, whereas the =
worn ones seemed to be rotating.
>> What I=E2=80=99m throwing out to the list is - I wonder if anyone has =
experience with the tubular pushrod/ bucket lifter combination=E2=80=A6or =
any other alternatives.
>> I don=E2=80=99t know what I=E2=80=99m going to find after a couple of =
thousand mikes, but I=E2=80=99d like to be ready with a strategy if =
there=E2=80=99s a problem.
>> And Mike, if you=E2=80=99re monitoring the list, what kind of lifters =
did you use in the end?
>> =20
>> Thanks,
>> Stephen, BJ8
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-webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;">Yes, I guess I =
should have mentioned that all along I=E2=80=99ve been using oil with =
ZDDP, and specifically Valvoline VR1 since the lifter replacement.<br =
id=3D"lineBreakAtBeginningOfMessage"><div><br><blockquote =
type=3D"cite"><div>On Oct 9, 2025, at 1:14=E2=80=AFPM, Karl Robertson =
<robertsonpdt@comcast.net> wrote:</div><br =
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<span style=3D"font-family: helvetica; font-size: 10pt;">Hello =
guys!</span>
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<div class=3D"default-style" style=3D"font-size: 10pt; font-family: =
helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">
<span style=3D"font-family: helvetica; font-size: 10pt;">First let me =
say that I am not a Healey guy, but don't count me out =
altogether!</span>
</div>=20
<div class=3D"default-style" style=3D"font-size: 10pt; font-family: =
helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">
<span style=3D"font-family: helvetica; font-size: 10pt;">All my cars =
have Flat Tappet / Bucket engines, a Alfa Romeo Montreal, a Ferrari 308 =
and also a Jaguar XK120. The first 2 have V8 engines, and the Jaguar has =
a straight 6. But all of them share one thing in common. All have =
Lifters with Flat Tops.</span>
</div>=20
<div class=3D"default-style" style=3D"font-size: 10pt; font-family: =
helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">
<span style=3D"font-family: helvetica; font-size: 10pt;">I have been =
using Valvoline VR1 with Zinc in it and even using a Zinc Additive =
(ZDDP). This is one ingredient missing from a lot of oils available =
today and an absolute must for Flat Tappet engines.</span>
</div>=20
<div class=3D"default-style" style=3D"font-size: 10pt; font-family: =
helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">
<span style=3D"font-family: helvetica; font-size: 10pt;">Sorry to =
come in here late to the party, but I'm just throwing it out there to =
consider if you haven't already done so. Good luck!</span>
</div>=20
<div class=3D"default-style" style=3D"font-size: 10pt; font-family: =
helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">
</div>=20
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helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">
<span style=3D"font-family: helvetica; font-size: 10pt;">Karl =
Robertson</span>
</div>=20
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helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">
<span style=3D"font-family: helvetica; font-size: 10pt;">Michigan, =
USA.</span>
</div>=20
<blockquote type=3D"cite">=20
<div>
On 10/09/2025 12:44 PM EDT Stephen Hutchings <<a =
href=3D"mailto:s.hutchings@rogers.com";>s.hutchings@rogers.com</a>> =
wrote:
</div>=20
<div>
</div>=20
<div>
</div>=20
<div>
When I had my cam ground during the restoration, the machine shop =
recommended that I have the original lifters resurfaced and hardened, =
rather than buy replacements.
</div>=20
<div>
This is going back a few years and there are now more options =
available. Some of those lifters pitted after 5, or 6 thousand miles, =
and some looked fine.
</div>=20
<div>
I decided that the ones that pitted were not hardened properly=E2=80=A6=
an assumption I know!
</div>=20
<div>
I corresponded with Mike Salter who was having lifter problems of =
his own, and in the end I replaced the whole set with the modified ones =
from AH spares because I no longer trusted the re-hardened set- and also =
removed the inner valve springs.
</div>=20
<div>
</div>=20
<div>
After a few hundred miles the new lifters looked OK, but I=E2=80=99m =
about to check them again, this time after a couple of thousand miles.
</div>=20
<div>
I=E2=80=99ve been doing a lot of reading about bucket lifters, =
tubular push rods, etc. and it seems that some people are saying the =
current replacement lifters are wearing prematurely because they are not =
domed properly and aren=E2=80=99t rotating.
</div>=20
<div>
Just to add to the confusion, when I removed the set that were =
pitting, I could see by the pattern on the wear surface that indeed some =
didn=E2=80=99t seem to be rotating, but had no visible wear, whereas the =
worn ones seemed to be rotating.
</div>=20
<div>
What I=E2=80=99m throwing out to the list is - I wonder if anyone =
has experience with the tubular pushrod/ bucket lifter combination=E2=80=A6=
or any other alternatives.
</div>=20
<div>
I don=E2=80=99t know what I=E2=80=99m going to find after a couple =
of thousand mikes, but I=E2=80=99d like to be ready with a strategy if =
there=E2=80=99s a problem.
</div>=20
<div>
And Mike, if you=E2=80=99re monitoring the list, what kind of =
lifters did you use in the end?
</div>=20
<div>
</div>=20
<div>
Thanks,
</div>=20
<div>
Stephen, BJ8
</div>=20
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