healeys
[Top] [All Lists]

Re: [Healeys] Lifter (cam followers) options

To: healeys@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Lifter (cam followers) options
From: Bob Spidell via Healeys <healeys@autox.team.net>
Date: Thu, 9 Oct 2025 15:49:23 -0700
Delivered-to: mharc@autox.team.net
Delivered-to: healeys@autox.team.net
References: <9969BE90-48E9-48EE-A741-6F5774B8B883.ref@rogers.com> <9969BE90-48E9-48EE-A741-6F5774B8B883@rogers.com>
User-agent: Mozilla Thunderbird
This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
--===============3802114160873440750==
 boundary="------------O5er0uuv0Gx95l2t0UKbLBa9"
Content-Language: en-US

This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
--------------O5er0uuv0Gx95l2t0UKbLBa9
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit

What was your cam break-in process? Did you use break-in oil?

For the last rebuild of my BJ8 engine I used a cam and lifters from 
Denis Welch; they will only sell the cam and lifters as a package. The 
lifters are 'modified' and the cam is gun-drilled for extra lubrication 
to the lobe-lifter interface. Sounded good to me, but I haven't pulled 
any lifters to check. They also sell bucket lifters with tubular push rods.

Note you can have too much ZDDP:

https://www.speedwaymotors.com/the-toolbox/zinc-additive-for-oil-how-much-zddp-is-enough/32478

Bob

On 10/9/2025 9:44 AM, Stephen Hutchings wrote:
> When I had my cam ground during the restoration, the machine shop recommended 
> that I have the original lifters resurfaced and hardened, rather than buy 
> replacements.
> This is going back a few years and there are now more options available. Some 
> of those lifters pitted after 5, or 6 thousand miles, and some looked fine.
> I decided that the ones that pitted were not hardened properlyâ?¦an 
> assumption I know!
> I corresponded with Mike Salter who was having lifter problems of his own, 
> and in the end I replaced the whole set with the modified ones from AH spares 
> because I no longer trusted the re-hardened set- and also removed the inner 
> valve springs.
>
> After a few hundred miles the new lifters looked OK, but Iâ??m about to check 
> them again, this time after a couple of thousand miles.
> Iâ??ve been doing a lot of reading about bucket lifters, tubular push rods, 
> etc. and it seems that some people are saying the current replacement lifters 
> are wearing prematurely because they are not domed properly and arenâ??t 
> rotating.
> Just to add to the confusion, when I removed the set that were pitting, I 
> could see by the pattern on the wear surface that indeed some didnâ??t seem 
> to be rotating, but had no visible wear, whereas the worn ones seemed to be 
> rotating.
> What Iâ??m throwing out to the list is - I wonder if anyone has experience 
> with the tubular pushrod/ bucket lifter combinationâ?¦or any other 
> alternatives.
> I donâ??t know what Iâ??m going to find after a couple of thousand mikes, but 
> Iâ??d like to be ready with a strategy if thereâ??s a problem.
> And Mike, if youâ??re monitoring the list, what kind of lifters did you use 
> in the end?
>
> Thanks,
> Stephen, BJ8
>
--------------O5er0uuv0Gx95l2t0UKbLBa9
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit

<!DOCTYPE html>
<html>
  <head>
    <meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=UTF-8">
  </head>
  <body>
    What was your cam break-in process? Did you use break-in oil?<br>
    <br>
    For the last rebuild of my BJ8 engine I used a cam and lifters from
    Denis Welch; they will only sell the cam and lifters as a package.
    The lifters are 'modified' and the cam is gun-drilled for extra
    lubrication to the lobe-lifter interface. Sounded good to me, but I
    haven't pulled any lifters to check. They also sell bucket lifters
    with tubular push rods.<br>
    <br>
    Note you can have too much ZDDP: <br>
    <br>
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" 
href="https://www.speedwaymotors.com/the-toolbox/zinc-additive-for-oil-how-much-zddp-is-enough/32478";>https://www.speedwaymotors.com/the-toolbox/zinc-additive-for-oil-how-much-zddp-is-enough/32478</a><br>
    <br>
    Bob<br>
    <br>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 10/9/2025 9:44 AM, Stephen Hutchings
      wrote:<br>
    </div>
    <blockquote type="cite"
      cite="mid:9969BE90-48E9-48EE-A741-6F5774B8B883@rogers.com">
      <pre wrap="" class="moz-quote-pre">When I had my cam ground during the 
restoration, the machine shop recommended that I have the original lifters 
resurfaced and hardened, rather than buy replacements.
This is going back a few years and there are now more options available. Some 
of those lifters pitted after 5, or 6 thousand miles, and some looked fine.
I decided that the ones that pitted were not hardened properlyâ?¦an assumption 
I know!
I corresponded with Mike Salter who was having lifter problems of his own, and 
in the end I replaced the whole set with the modified ones from AH spares 
because I no longer trusted the re-hardened set- and also removed the inner 
valve springs.

After a few hundred miles the new lifters looked OK, but Iâ??m about to check 
them again, this time after a couple of thousand miles.
Iâ??ve been doing a lot of reading about bucket lifters, tubular push rods, 
etc. and it seems that some people are saying the current replacement lifters 
are wearing prematurely because they are not domed properly and arenâ??t 
rotating.
Just to add to the confusion, when I removed the set that were pitting, I could 
see by the pattern on the wear surface that indeed some didnâ??t seem to be 
rotating, but had no visible wear, whereas the worn ones seemed to be rotating.
What Iâ??m throwing out to the list is - I wonder if anyone has experience with 
the tubular pushrod/ bucket lifter combinationâ?¦or any other alternatives.
I donâ??t know what Iâ??m going to find after a couple of thousand mikes, but 
Iâ??d like to be ready with a strategy if thereâ??s a problem.
And Mike, if youâ??re monitoring the list, what kind of lifters did you use in 
the end?

Thanks,
Stephen, BJ8

</pre>
    </blockquote>
  </body>
</html>

--------------O5er0uuv0Gx95l2t0UKbLBa9--

--===============3802114160873440750==
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Content-Disposition: inline

_______________________________________________

Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys 
http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys

Healeys@autox.team.net
http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys



--===============3802114160873440750==--

<Prev in Thread] Current Thread [Next in Thread>