Re: [Healeys] Yet another mystery

[Richard Antal via Healeys <healeys@autox.team.net>]

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 I must have misspoken. The air deflectors in front of the radiator are exa=
ctly as they should be and have been thus installed for the last 30 years a=
t least. I drove 80 miles yesterday and the temp never got above 170 but th=
en, the weather has changed and it's much cooler than when the radiator ove=
rheated. I'm convinced that in some way, that cardboard piece I had placed =
in front of the radiator was complicit in causing the overheating even thou=
gh I had earlier driven 200 miles with it in place without it overheating..=
......rich
    On Friday, October 10, 2025 at 05:32:49 AM EDT, i erbs <eyera3000@gmail=
.com> wrote: =20
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 The proper placement of the air deflectors. You said they might be wrong. =
My car runs hot too. New radiator, block flush. Electric push fan. Metal fa=
n too
Ira Erbs
Milwaukie, OR
1959 Austin Healey 100-6
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On Fri, Oct 10, 2025, 10:26=E2=80=AFAM Richard Antal <rantal243@yahoo.com> =
wrote:

 Sorry Ira. I don't understand your question. Photograph of what exactly?..=
....r
    On Thursday, October 9, 2025 at 04:55:21 PM EDT, i erbs <eyera3000@gmai=
l.com> wrote: =20
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 Do you have photo of the proper installation?Thanks
Ira Erbs
Milwaukie, OR
1959 Austin Healey 100-6
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On Fri, Oct 3, 2025, 2:54=E2=80=AFAM Michael Salter <michael.salter@gmail.c=
om> wrote:

I would also suggest that you take a careful look at the baffles that are, =
or should be, installed forward from the sides of the radiator to the grill=
e. If these baffles aren't correctly fitted hot air from the backside of th=
e radiator will swirl around to the front and pass through the radiator aga=
in and thus seriously deminish its cooling ability.
M

From: Healeys <healeys-bounces@autox.team.net> on behalf of Harold Manifold=
 <manifold@telus.net>
Sent: Thursday, October 2, 2025 6:45:19 PM
To: Richard Antal <rantal243@yahoo.com>
Cc: Healeys <healeys@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Yet another mystery=C2=A0Rich,
Your comments "high speed. run of twenty miles" and "extra series of coolin=
g tubes" may offer some clues. Fan blades flex away from the side that push=
es air, in other words towards=C2=A0the radiator. The extra cooling tubes m=
ay have reduced the clearance between the radiator and the fan. There isn't=
 much clearance to begin with. The combination of the two may have been eno=
ugh for the fan to hit the radiator.
The other issue is what caused the overheating. At high speeds the fan has =
little to no effect on cooling. Unless the ambient temperature=C2=A0was ver=
y high and you were going up a steep hill the colling system should keep up=
. What was the water temperature gauge saying?
Harold


On Thu, Oct 2, 2025 at 1:39=E2=80=AFPM Richard Antal via Healeys <healeys@a=
utox.team.net> wrote:

Listers,=C2=A0 =C2=A0 My BJ8 seems beleaguered with misfortune. A couple of=
 weeks ago I noted the oil pressure gauge wildly oscillating at various spe=
eds. It vanished two days later.=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Yesterday a high speed. run o=
f twenty miles produce an overheating radiator with fluid spewing from the =
overflow tube. To my horror, I saw that the Texas cooler fan which I'd had =
for at least 25 years had confronted the engine side of the radiator leavin=
g a distinct circular impression and abrasion to the tip of one of the fan =
blades. That radiator was rebuilt two years ago with an extra series of coo=
ling tubes and had given no problems for at least 5000 miles. I assumed the=
 harness which prevents the engine from sliding forward was faulty. Inspect=
ion of the underside did not support that conclusion--it looked fine to me:=
 all bushings and nuts were in place. I ran the engine after filling the ra=
diator and saw no evidence of recurrence of the fan nudging the radiator. I=
'm perplexed what to do next. Thanks for your thoughts......Rich Antal_____=
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        <div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">I must have misspoken. The a=
ir deflectors in front of the radiator are exactly as they should be and ha=
ve been thus installed for the last 30 years at least. I drove 80 miles yes=
terday and the temp never got above 170 but then, the weather has changed a=
nd it's much cooler than when the radiator overheated. I'm convinced that i=
n some way, that cardboard piece I had placed in front of the radiator was =
complicit in causing the overheating even though I had earlier driven 200 m=
iles with it in place without it overheating........rich</div><div><br></di=
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                    On Friday, October 10, 2025 at 05:32:49 AM EDT, i erbs =
&lt;eyera3000@gmail.com&gt; wrote:
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e proper placement of the air deflectors. You said they might be wrong. My =
car runs hot too. New radiator, block flush. Electric push fan. Metal fan t=
oo</div><div><br clear=3D"none"></div><div>Ira Erbs<br clear=3D"none">Milwa=
ukie, OR<br clear=3D"none">1959 Austin Healey 100-6<br clear=3D"none"> </di=
v></div><br clear=3D"none"><div id=3D"ydpf7531bb6yiv7617269126yqt01056" cla=
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17269126gmail_quote ydpf7531bb6yiv7617269126gmail_quote_container"><div dir=
=3D"ltr" class=3D"ydpf7531bb6yiv7617269126gmail_attr">On Fri, Oct 10, 2025,=
 10:26=E2=80=AFAM Richard Antal &lt;<a shape=3D"rect" href=3D"mailto:rantal=
243@yahoo.com" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">rantal243@yahoo.com</a>&g=
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        <div dir=3D"ltr">Sorry Ira. I don't understand your question. Photo=
graph of what exactly?......r</div><div><br clear=3D"none"></div>
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                    On Thursday, October 9, 2025 at 04:55:21 PM EDT, i erbs=
 &lt;<a shape=3D"rect" href=3D"mailto:eyera3000@gmail.com"; rel=3D"nofollow"=
 target=3D"_blank">eyera3000@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:
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48ydpbebad3d4yiv8546086817"><div><div><div>Do you have photo of the proper =
installation?</div><div>Thanks</div><div><br clear=3D"none"></div><div>Ira =
Erbs<br clear=3D"none">Milwaukie, OR<br clear=3D"none">1959 Austin Healey 1=
00-6<br clear=3D"none"> </div></div><br clear=3D"none"><div><div id=3D"ydpf=
7531bb6yiv7617269126m_2330410091866299748ydpbebad3d4yiv8546086817yqt28875">=
<div dir=3D"ltr">On Fri, Oct 3, 2025, 2:54=E2=80=AFAM Michael Salter &lt;<a=
 shape=3D"rect" href=3D"mailto:michael.salter@gmail.com"; rel=3D"nofollow" t=
arget=3D"_blank">michael.salter@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br clear=3D"none">=
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I would also suggest that you take a careful look at the baffles that are, =
or should be, installed forward from the sides of the radiator to the grill=
e. If these baffles aren't correctly fitted hot air from the backside of th=
e radiator will swirl around to
 the front and pass through the radiator again and thus seriously deminish =
its cooling ability.</div>
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, sans-serif" style=3D"font-size:11pt;" color=3D"#000000"><b>From:</b> Heal=
eys &lt;<a shape=3D"rect" href=3D"mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net"; re=
l=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">healeys-bounces@autox.team.net</a>&gt; on =
behalf of Harold Manifold &lt;<a shape=3D"rect" href=3D"mailto:manifold@tel=
us.net" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">manifold@telus.net</a>&gt;<br cl=
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<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, October 2, 2025 6:45:19 PM<br clear=3D"none">
<b>To:</b> Richard Antal &lt;<a shape=3D"rect" href=3D"mailto:rantal243@yah=
oo.com" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">rantal243@yahoo.com</a>&gt;<br c=
lear=3D"none">
<b>Cc:</b> Healeys &lt;<a shape=3D"rect" href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.=
net" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">healeys@autox.team.net</a>&gt;<br c=
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<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys] Yet another mystery</font>
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<div dir=3D"ltr">Rich,
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<div>Your comments "high speed. run of twenty miles" and "extra series of c=
ooling tubes" may offer some clues. Fan blades flex away from the side that=
 pushes air, in other words towards&nbsp;the radiator. The extra cooling tu=
bes may have reduced the clearance between
 the radiator and the fan. There isn't much clearance to begin with. The co=
mbination of the two may have been enough for the fan to hit the radiator.<=
/div>
<div><br clear=3D"none">
</div>
<div>The other issue is what caused the overheating. At high speeds the fan=
 has little to no effect on cooling. Unless the ambient temperature&nbsp;wa=
s very high and you were going up a steep hill the colling system should ke=
ep up. What was the water temperature
 gauge saying?</div>
<div><br clear=3D"none">
</div>
<div>Harold</div>
<div><br clear=3D"none">
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<div dir=3D"ltr">On Thu, Oct 2, 2025 at 1:39=E2=80=AFPM Richard Antal via H=
ealeys &lt;<a shape=3D"rect" href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net"; rel=3D"=
nofollow" target=3D"_blank">healeys@autox.team.net</a>&gt; wrote:<br clear=
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<div dir=3D"ltr">Listers,</div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">&nbsp; &nbsp; My BJ8 seems beleaguered with misfortune. A =
couple of weeks ago I noted the oil pressure gauge wildly oscillating at va=
rious speeds. It vanished two days later.</div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">&nbsp; &nbsp; Yesterday a high speed. run of twenty miles =
produce an overheating radiator with fluid spewing from the overflow tube. =
To my horror, I saw that the Texas cooler fan which I'd had for at least 25=
 years had confronted the engine side of the
 radiator leaving a distinct circular impression and abrasion to the tip of=
 one of the fan blades. That radiator was rebuilt two years ago with an ext=
ra series of cooling tubes and had given no problems for at least 5000 mile=
s. I assumed the harness which prevents
 the engine from sliding forward was faulty. Inspection of the underside di=
d not support that conclusion--it looked fine to me: all bushings and nuts =
were in place. I ran the engine after filling the radiator and saw no evide=
nce of recurrence of the fan nudging
 the radiator. I'm perplexed what to do next. Thanks for your thoughts.....=
.</div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">Rich Antal</div>
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