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Thanks for the clarification
Ira Erbs
Milwaukie, OR
1959 Austin Healey 100-6
On Fri, Oct 10, 2025, 11:07=E2=80=AFAM Richard Antal <rantal243@yahoo.com> =
wrote:
> I must have misspoken. The air deflectors in front of the radiator are
> exactly as they should be and have been thus installed for the last 30
> years at least. I drove 80 miles yesterday and the temp never got above 1=
70
> but then, the weather has changed and it's much cooler than when the
> radiator overheated. I'm convinced that in some way, that cardboard piece=
I
> had placed in front of the radiator was complicit in causing the
> overheating even though I had earlier driven 200 miles with it in place
> without it overheating........rich
>
> On Friday, October 10, 2025 at 05:32:49 AM EDT, i erbs <
> eyera3000@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> The proper placement of the air deflectors. You said they might be wrong.
> My car runs hot too. New radiator, block flush. Electric push fan. Metal
> fan too
>
> Ira Erbs
> Milwaukie, OR
> 1959 Austin Healey 100-6
>
> On Fri, Oct 10, 2025, 10:26=E2=80=AFAM Richard Antal <rantal243@yahoo.com=
> wrote:
>
> Sorry Ira. I don't understand your question. Photograph of what
> exactly?......r
>
> On Thursday, October 9, 2025 at 04:55:21 PM EDT, i erbs <
> eyera3000@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> Do you have photo of the proper installation?
> Thanks
>
> Ira Erbs
> Milwaukie, OR
> 1959 Austin Healey 100-6
>
> On Fri, Oct 3, 2025, 2:54=E2=80=AFAM Michael Salter <michael.salter@gmail=
.com>
> wrote:
>
> I would also suggest that you take a careful look at the baffles that are=
,
> or should be, installed forward from the sides of the radiator to the
> grille. If these baffles aren't correctly fitted hot air from the backsid=
e
> of the radiator will swirl around to the front and pass through the
> radiator again and thus seriously deminish its cooling ability.
>
> M
>
>
> ------------------------------
> *From:* Healeys <healeys-bounces@autox.team.net> on behalf of Harold
> Manifold <manifold@telus.net>
> *Sent:* Thursday, October 2, 2025 6:45:19 PM
> *To:* Richard Antal <rantal243@yahoo.com>
> *Cc:* Healeys <healeys@autox.team.net>
> *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] Yet another mystery
>
> Rich,
>
> Your comments "high speed. run of twenty miles" and "extra series of
> cooling tubes" may offer some clues. Fan blades flex away from the side
> that pushes air, in other words towards the radiator. The extra cooling
> tubes may have reduced the clearance between the radiator and the fan.
> There isn't much clearance to begin with. The combination of the two may
> have been enough for the fan to hit the radiator.
>
> The other issue is what caused the overheating. At high speeds the fan ha=
s
> little to no effect on cooling. Unless the ambient temperature was very
> high and you were going up a steep hill the colling system should keep up=
.
> What was the water temperature gauge saying?
>
> Harold
>
>
>
> On Thu, Oct 2, 2025 at 1:39=E2=80=AFPM Richard Antal via Healeys <
> healeys@autox.team.net> wrote:
>
> Listers,
> My BJ8 seems beleaguered with misfortune. A couple of weeks ago I
> noted the oil pressure gauge wildly oscillating at various speeds. It
> vanished two days later.
> Yesterday a high speed. run of twenty miles produce an overheating
> radiator with fluid spewing from the overflow tube. To my horror, I saw
> that the Texas cooler fan which I'd had for at least 25 years had
> confronted the engine side of the radiator leaving a distinct circular
> impression and abrasion to the tip of one of the fan blades. That radiato=
r
> was rebuilt two years ago with an extra series of cooling tubes and had
> given no problems for at least 5000 miles. I assumed the harness which
> prevents the engine from sliding forward was faulty. Inspection of the
> underside did not support that conclusion--it looked fine to me: all
> bushings and nuts were in place. I ran the engine after filling the
> radiator and saw no evidence of recurrence of the fan nudging the radiato=
r.
> I'm perplexed what to do next. Thanks for your thoughts......
> Rich Antal
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<div dir=3D"auto"><div>Thanks for the clarification=C2=A0</div><div><br></d=
iv><div data-smartmail=3D"gmail_signature">Ira Erbs<br>Milwaukie, OR<br>195=
9 Austin Healey 100-6<br> </div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote gmail_q=
uote_container"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Fri, Oct 10, 2025,=
11:07=E2=80=AFAM Richard Antal <<a href=3D"mailto:rantal243@yahoo.com";>=
rantal243@yahoo.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quot=
e" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204)=
;padding-left:1ex"><div><div style=3D"font-family:"Helvetica Neue"=
;,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px"><div></div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">I must have misspoken. The air deflectors in front=
of the radiator are exactly as they should be and have been thus installed=
for the last 30 years at least. I drove 80 miles yesterday and the temp ne=
ver got above 170 but then, the weather has changed and it's much coole=
r than when the radiator overheated. I'm convinced that in some way, th=
at cardboard piece I had placed in front of the radiator was complicit in c=
ausing the overheating even though I had earlier driven 200 miles with it i=
n place without it overheating........rich</div><div><br></div>
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On Friday, October 10, 2025 at 05:32:49 AM EDT, i erbs =
<<a href=3D"mailto:eyera3000@gmail.com"; target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"norefer=
rer">eyera3000@gmail.com</a>> wrote:
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<div><div id=3D"m_-3915761183442993984ydpf7531bb6yiv7617269=
126"><div><div><div>The proper placement of the air deflectors. You said th=
ey might be wrong. My car runs hot too. New radiator, block flush. Electric=
push fan. Metal fan too</div><div><br clear=3D"none"></div><div>Ira Erbs<b=
r clear=3D"none">Milwaukie, OR<br clear=3D"none">1959 Austin Healey 100-6<b=
r clear=3D"none"> </div></div><br clear=3D"none"><div id=3D"m_-391576118344=
2993984ydpf7531bb6yiv7617269126yqt01056"><div><div dir=3D"ltr">On Fri, Oct =
10, 2025, 10:26=E2=80=AFAM Richard Antal <<a shape=3D"rect" href=3D"mail=
to:rantal243@yahoo.com" rel=3D"nofollow noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">ranta=
l243@yahoo.com</a>> wrote:<br clear=3D"none"></div><blockquote style=3D"=
margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-lef=
t:1ex"><div><div style=3D"font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:=
13px"><div></div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">Sorry Ira. I don't understand your question. P=
hotograph of what exactly?......r</div><div><br clear=3D"none"></div>
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On Thursday, October 9, 2025 at 04:55:21 PM EDT, i erbs=
<<a shape=3D"rect" href=3D"mailto:eyera3000@gmail.com"; rel=3D"nofollow =
noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">eyera3000@gmail.com</a>> wrote:
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<div><div id=3D"m_-3915761183442993984ydpf7531bb6yiv7617269=
126m_2330410091866299748ydpbebad3d4yiv8546086817"><div><div><div>Do you hav=
e photo of the proper installation?</div><div>Thanks</div><div><br clear=3D=
"none"></div><div>Ira Erbs<br clear=3D"none">Milwaukie, OR<br clear=3D"none=
">1959 Austin Healey 100-6<br clear=3D"none"> </div></div><br clear=3D"none=
"><div><div id=3D"m_-3915761183442993984ydpf7531bb6yiv7617269126m_233041009=
1866299748ydpbebad3d4yiv8546086817yqt28875"><div dir=3D"ltr">On Fri, Oct 3,=
2025, 2:54=E2=80=AFAM Michael Salter <<a shape=3D"rect" href=3D"mailto:=
michael.salter@gmail.com" rel=3D"nofollow noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">mic=
hael.salter@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br clear=3D"none"></div><blockquote st=
yle=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padd=
ing-left:1ex">
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erif;font-size:12pt">
I would also suggest that you take a careful look at the baffles that are, =
or should be, installed forward from the sides of the radiator to the grill=
e. If these baffles aren't correctly fitted hot air from the backside o=
f the radiator will swirl around to
the front and pass through the radiator again and thus seriously deminish =
its cooling ability.</div>
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><font face=3D"Calibri, sans-serif" style=3D"font-size:11pt" color=3D"#0000=
00"><b>From:</b> Healeys <<a shape=3D"rect" href=3D"mailto:healeys-bounc=
es@autox.team.net" rel=3D"nofollow noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">healeys-bo=
unces@autox.team.net</a>> on behalf of Harold Manifold <<a shape=3D"r=
ect" href=3D"mailto:manifold@telus.net"; rel=3D"nofollow noreferrer" target=
=3D"_blank">manifold@telus.net</a>><br clear=3D"none">
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, October 2, 2025 6:45:19 PM<br clear=3D"none">
<b>To:</b> Richard Antal <<a shape=3D"rect" href=3D"mailto:rantal243@yah=
oo.com" rel=3D"nofollow noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">rantal243@yahoo.com</=
a>><br clear=3D"none">
<b>Cc:</b> Healeys <<a shape=3D"rect" href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.=
net" rel=3D"nofollow noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">healeys@autox.team.net</=
a>><br clear=3D"none">
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys] Yet another mystery</font>
<div>=C2=A0</div>
</div>
<div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">Rich,
<div><br clear=3D"none">
</div>
<div>Your comments "high speed. run of twenty miles" and "ex=
tra series of cooling tubes" may offer some clues. Fan blades flex awa=
y from the side that pushes air, in other words towards=C2=A0the radiator. =
The extra cooling tubes may have reduced the clearance between
the radiator and the fan. There isn't much clearance to begin with. Th=
e combination of the two may have been enough for the fan to hit the radiat=
or.</div>
<div><br clear=3D"none">
</div>
<div>The other issue is what caused the overheating. At high speeds the fan=
has little to no effect on cooling. Unless the ambient temperature=C2=A0wa=
s very high and you were going up a steep hill the colling system should ke=
ep up. What was the water temperature
gauge saying?</div>
<div><br clear=3D"none">
</div>
<div>Harold</div>
<div><br clear=3D"none">
</div>
<div><br clear=3D"none">
</div>
</div>
<br clear=3D"none">
<div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">On Thu, Oct 2, 2025 at 1:39=E2=80=AFPM Richard Antal via H=
ealeys <<a shape=3D"rect" href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net"; rel=3D"=
nofollow noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">healeys@autox.team.net</a>> wrote=
:<br clear=3D"none">
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<div dir=3D"ltr">Listers,</div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">=C2=A0 =C2=A0 My BJ8 seems beleaguered with misfortune. A =
couple of weeks ago I noted the oil pressure gauge wildly oscillating at va=
rious speeds. It vanished two days later.</div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Yesterday a high speed. run of twenty miles =
produce an overheating radiator with fluid spewing from the overflow tube. =
To my horror, I saw that the Texas cooler fan which I'd had for at leas=
t 25 years had confronted the engine side of the
radiator leaving a distinct circular impression and abrasion to the tip of=
one of the fan blades. That radiator was rebuilt two years ago with an ext=
ra series of cooling tubes and had given no problems for at least 5000 mile=
s. I assumed the harness which prevents
the engine from sliding forward was faulty. Inspection of the underside di=
d not support that conclusion--it looked fine to me: all bushings and nuts =
were in place. I ran the engine after filling the radiator and saw no evide=
nce of recurrence of the fan nudging
the radiator. I'm perplexed what to do next. Thanks for your thoughts.=
.....</div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">Rich Antal</div>
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