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Re: TR6 V8 Conversion

To: "Susan and Jack Brooks" <tr3a@att.net>, <mgb-v8@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: TR6 V8 Conversion
From: "Wayne" <wayne@brazinski.com>
Date: Mon, 17 May 2004 22:28:24 -0500
References: <001901c43c82$707f1c10$6401a8c0@Dell4550>
Reply-to: "Wayne" <wayne@brazinski.com>
Sender: owner-mgb-v8@autox.team.net
Jack -
Thanks for the info here regards the TR3.  I have installed the British Auto
Restorations Rack and Pinion kit and am very happy with it on my TR3.  You
mention that there are a lot of other things that can be done to further
improve things.  Can you share - or is there a book I can buy?  If I ever
make my mind up about a V8 or Zetec engine conversion I'm going to be able
to really use that handling.  Hmm - I wonder if it will stop...

THANKS!

Wayne

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Susan and Jack Brooks" <tr3a@att.net>
To: <mgb-v8@autox.team.net>
Sent: Monday, May 17, 2004 9:47 PM
Subject: RE: TR6 V8 Conversion


> The TR6 (& MGB) have a much more sophisticated steering/suspension systems
> than a TR3.  The TR3 has cam and peg steering, with non-adjustable
00camber
> and 00caster, with only adjustment for toe-in.  The Ackerman on a TR3 is
> backwards too, so it has a very poor steering design in stock
configuration.
> A TR6, with solid (not rubber) mounted rack & pinion will run (handling)
> circles around a stock TR3.  As far as comparison, compare the TR3 to an
> MGA, not a B for a fair comparison.  What to do think of a MGA V8
> conversion?  There is a lot, however, that can be done to make a TR3 (or
> MGA??) handle very well, little of which is SCCA legal <shhhh!>.
>
> With regard to the TR6's IRS, the weakness is not the IRS itself, but the
> diff mounting brackets.  They will shear under the power of a well warmed
> TR6 engine.  Fortunately, a few simple steel plates can remedy the
> situation.
>
> Jack (I can't believe I trashed the TR3's front suspension in front of a
> bunch of MG guys) Brooks
> 1960 TR3
> 1980 TR8
> No MG's, although I've snap up an MGA or MGB engined Elva if I found the
> right car.
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-mgb-v8@autox.team.net
> > [mailto:owner-mgb-v8@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Deikis, John
> > Sent: Monday, May 17, 2004 6:02 AM
> > To: mgb-v8@autox.team.net
> > Cc: 'MGTD2@aol.com'
> > Subject: TR6 V8 Conversion
> >
> >
> > Guys:
> >
> > I've got this dilemma.  I'm sort of a monogomous MG guy and
> > have been looking at various B-V8s for about a year now.
> > (Racing a 1275 Midget just doesn't satisfy my need for street
> > grunting and muffler rapping)!
> >
> > So, after missing out on a couple of nice cars, and passing
> > up on a few that the seller and I couldn't agree on the
> > dollars, I discover an acquaintance has acquired a cherry TR6
> > surrey-top with with a 302 Ford conversion.  He wants some
> > real money for it, but it's a particularly nice car.
> >
> > Now, I have a beater TR3 that I've owned for about 15 years
> > and I gotta say when it comes to "feel," it can't match the
> > nimbleness of an MGB.  In other words, it's okay for a
> > beater, but it would not be my first choice for a sportscar.
> > On the other hand, seems that several listers have TR3
> > conversions, so somebody thinks they're worth putting that
> > kind of effort into.
> >
> > My question is what your opinions are on the TR6 as a
> > platform for Ford V8
> > power?   I've always like the TR6 body styling and meaty
> > wheels and tires,
> > but I've never driven one and the conversion is across the
> > country from me, so I have yet to drive it either.  Also, the
> > weight of the V8 is probably substantially more than the BOPR
> > aluminum motor and I don't know how that would affect the
> > handling of the car, although I'll bet the BMC straight six
> > was quite an anchor up front as well.
> >
> > Any relevant discussion of this would be greatly appreciated.  Thanks.
> >
> > JohnD

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