I know the story I drive Escorts, Put 248.900, miles on one and it still ran
like new,
Just change the timing belt and the oils when they are due. Wife hates them,
I put 150-200 miles a day on it. Carl E.
-----Original Message-----
From: Art Pfenninger <ch155@freenet.buffalo.edu>
To: n <twobees@sprynet.com>
Cc: MGs digest <mgs@autox.team.net>
Date: Monday, December 21, 1998 7:06 AM
Subject: Re: Subject: Re: OT New Car Search for the folks
>I think this experience shows that you can't always believe Consumer
>reports. A case in point is the Hyundai, yes the crap of all crap if you
>can believe what you read. According to them this is the worst car ever
>made. As a daily driver there are 3 of them in the household along with 2
>MG's and a 98 Dodge Caravan. The oldest Hyundai an 89 never broken down in
>10 years and I've put less than $200 in repairs which includes a battery.
>The other two, one of which is an 88 have never broken down and the most
>expensive repair to date was a water pump for $13 dollars. Between the 3
>Hyundais they have about 250 thousand miles. My previous 92 Dodge caravan
>cost me $1300 in one month in repairs alone with close to $3000 in 6
>years. For the money I don't think you will beat the Hyundai. With a 5 or
>6 year bumper to bumper and 10,000 or 10 year drive train and 5 year free
>road side service. And if you at them there not bad looking either. Just
>MHO.
>...Art
>
>On Mon, 14 Dec 1998, n wrote:
>
>> Did someone suggest a Camry???
>>
>> Let me share my Camry nightmare.
>>
>> I bought one new in 1986, the then new 1987 design. It was
unquestionably
>> the worst car I have ever owned. (Bought my first car in 1956) From
day-1
>> it had problems of fit, finish, reliability & of dealer service. The
list
>> of problems is too long to review here. But, suffice it to say that when
my
>> '80 MGB was our more reliable car (FAR more reliable), it speaks volumes
for
>> Toyota's lack of quality.
>>
>> On one occasion it was in the shop off and on for 5 weeks inside two
months.
>> Turns out MYoriginal problem diagnosis of a fuel problem was ultimately
>> diagnosed by the zone service mgr. as bad injectors. Not the electrical
>> problem the dealer service mgr. & staff insisted it was. Of course, the
>> warrantee expired before we learned that. And, unlike Volkswagen who
>> quickly handled a transmission problem long out of warrantee, Toyota
>> basically said fight us for new injectors if you like.
>>
>> Then the coil went. The dealer wanted $600 for a new coil. Lots of
threats
>> later, he agreed to installing the "coil" in the old distributor for
$250.
>> The original quote was for the replacement of the whole distributor.
Then
>> it was the air box - similar price. Bought a replacement at a junkyard &
>> installed myself.
>>
>> In it's last year at about 85,000 miles it died 3-times out in the middle
of
>> nowhere. Ultimately, we dumped it for a move back to another European
car -
>> a Saab. Wish we had done it sooner.
>>
>> Now we have a car that IS more reliable than my MGB. And, a lot safer
and
>> carries much more.
>>
>> Other recent European cars we've had good experience with: Audi, VW (2).
>>
>> Norm
>> '66 MGB
>>
>>
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