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Re: Clutch Might-as-Wells

To: Max Heim <mvheim@attbi.com>, MG List <mgs@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: Clutch Might-as-Wells
From: David Councill <dcouncil@imt.net>
Date: Fri, 23 Aug 2002 20:43:54 -0600
At 06:02 PM 8/23/2002 -0700, Max Heim wrote:
>... and the transmission can't come out the bottom unless you
>torch through the welded-on crossmember... leaving you the choice of pulling
>the engine and transmission together (my recommendation), or just the engine
>(sounds easier, but more difficult to put back together).


Not true. You can pull the transmission out by itself. I've even done it 
with the o/d transmission which is a bit tougher as the clearances are tighter.

I haven't pulled the engine/transmission out as one unit since I did the 
overhaul on my 71BGT back in 1983. It not that I'm against the procedure, 
it just works best with the right equipment which I don't have. You should 
use a pulley device on the engine hoist that allows you to tilt the 
engine/transmission at a steep angle during removal and replacement. 
Lacking that, I found the chore a bit tougher.

Since 1983, I have pulled the transmission out by itself to (1) replace it 
with an o/d unit (2) to overhaul the o/d unit a year later (3) to replace 
the clutch (4) overhaul the o/d unit again twelve years or so after the 
first overhaul. The last time, I did pull the engine forward with a hoist, 
but kept it in the engine compartment, to make it easier to work the 
transmission in and  out. The other times, the engine stayed in place with 
engine mounts remaining bolted.

Now that I'm doing my 72B restoration, I will likely put the transmission 
in from below and then lower the engine in. Unless I get one of those Oberg 
tilt lifts from Moss but I'd have to order it soon because my engine is 
almost ready to go.

The original writer didn't mention whether he had an o/d unit. With a non 
o/d unit, you can pull the transmission out by pulling it back as far as 
you can then pulling the bell housing down (as I recall). But the o/d unit 
needed one modification - a hole about 1.5" in the bellhousing that allows 
you to access the bolts holding the clutch pressure plate on the flywheel. 
These have to be removed to allow the extra clearance between the pilot 
shaft and the flywheel - a trick I learned from a British Leyland mechanic 
(the hole size is critical because I use the same rubber cap that goes over 
that hole that accesses the oil dipstick).

But back to the original question - for the clutch alone, I think the 
easier option is to leave the engine in the engine compartment but use a 
hoist to move it forward at least three or so inches and pull the 
transmission out from under. During the reassembly, use some 5-6" long 
5/16" bolts to pull the two back together in line (lining up is the other 
tough part). My very first engine overhaul, I pulled the engine and left 
the transmission in place - then spent a good part of a day trying to line 
them up again. Now that was a pain. But using the long bolts, you should be 
able to get the whole bellhousing symmetrical with the rear engine plate 
and pull them together.


David Councill
67 BGT
72 B (soon)

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