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Subject: Re: [Mgs] mga radiator
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I was quoted upwards of $400 to recore.  Lbcarco has new ones for under =
$300, and there is a guy on ebay out of Knoxville selling them for just =
over $200.  Steel/copper of course. =20

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Since my other LBC=E2=80=99s also have steel/copper radiators, and =
electric fans, and I do just fine here in Dallas summers, I=E2=80=99m =
thinking that=E2=80=99s the way to go.  I=E2=80=99ll take lbcarco =
products any day.  Their stuff is great.  I=E2=80=99m going to hook up =
the electric fan to the F switch (and a relay).  Seems appropriate to =
me!

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From: Mgs <mgs-bounces@autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Barrie Robinson via =
Mgs
Sent: Thursday, May 2, 2019 1:11 PM
To: mgs@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Mgs] mga radiator

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Hello Max,

I hoped you used the special heat transferring paint.   There used to be =
one that has something like small chaff in it which was meant to improve =
heat transfer.

Barrie from Barrie

On 5/2/2019 2:01 PM, Max Heim via Mgs wrote:

I was recently quoted $450 to recore a Mk.1 MGB radiator. So it has =
become rather costly. But if you are a stickler for the original =
appearance, and want to insure a perfect fit, I think that is how you =
would want to go.=20

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That said, I wound up with the Moss Motors premium aluminum radiator, =
and it fit fine, and seems to work great. I painted it black so it =
didn=E2=80=99t stand out as a foreign object, and can=E2=80=99t be seen =
through the grill (this really bugs me when I see it on other cars).

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Max Heim

'66 MGB

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On May 2, 2019, at 6:53 AM, David Breneman via Mgs <mgs@autox.team.net =

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With what I paid, $100 was a rounding error (and he ended up doing

a lot of work for free, because it was a fixed-price job and he's a

perfectionist).  But it's not the first time I'd heard of this problem

with new radiators.  A lot of people complain about cooling issues=20

with their MGAs.  I've never had a problem, even with weather in=20

the 80s.  And if it's hotter than that, I overheat long before the

car would.

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David Breneman david_breneman@yahoo.com =

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On Thursday, May 2, 2019, 12:41:14 AM PDT, PaulHunt73 =


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Hmmm.  With my cynical hat on I'd say that could be a way of spending =
$400=20

rather than $300.

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PaulH.

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> When I got my MGA restored, the mechanic recommended rebuilding the

> original radiator rather then buying a replacement, because the new =
ones

> have fewer "tubes" (whatever the actual term is in radiator-speak) in =
them

> than the originals, so there is less surface area for cooling.=20

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lang=3DEN-US link=3Dblue vlink=3Dpurple><div class=3DWordSection1><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'color:windowtext'>I was quoted upwards =
of $400 to recore.=C2=A0 Lbcarco has new ones for under $300, and there =
is a guy on ebay out of Knoxville selling them for just over $200.=C2=A0 =
Steel/copper of course.=C2=A0 <o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'color:windowtext'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'color:windowtext'>Since my other =
LBC=E2=80=99s also have steel/copper radiators, and electric fans, and I =
do just fine here in Dallas summers, I=E2=80=99m thinking that=E2=80=99s =
the way to go.=C2=A0 I=E2=80=99ll take lbcarco products any day.=C2=A0 =
Their stuff is great.=C2=A0 I=E2=80=99m going to hook up the electric =
fan to the F switch (and a relay).=C2=A0 Seems appropriate to =
me!<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'color:windowtext'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><div><div =
style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in =
0in 0in'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span =
style=3D'color:windowtext'>From:</span></b><span =
style=3D'color:windowtext'> Mgs &lt;mgs-bounces@autox.team.net&gt; <b>On =
Behalf Of </b>Barrie Robinson via Mgs<br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, May 2, =
2019 1:11 PM<br><b>To:</b> mgs@autox.team.net<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: =
[Mgs] mga radiator<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>Hello =
Max,<br><br>I hoped you used the special heat transferring =
paint.&nbsp;&nbsp; There used to be one that has something like small =
chaff in it which was meant to improve heat transfer.<br><br>Barrie from =
Barrie</span><o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>On 5/2/2019 2:01 =
PM, Max Heim via Mgs wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote =
style=3D'margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=3DMsoNormal>I =
was recently quoted $450 to recore a Mk.1 MGB radiator. So it has become =
rather costly. But if you are a stickler for the original appearance, =
and want to insure a perfect fit, I think that is how you would want to =
go. <o:p></o:p></p><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>That said, I wound up with the Moss Motors premium =
aluminum radiator, and it fit fine, and seems to work great. I painted =
it black so it didn=E2=80=99t stand out as a foreign object, and =
can=E2=80=99t be seen through the grill (this really bugs me when I see =
it on other cars).<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><div><div><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>--<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>Max =
Heim<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>'66 =
MGB<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><blockquote =
style=3D'margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>On May 2, 2019, at 6:53 AM, David Breneman via Mgs =
&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:mgs@autox.team.net";>mgs@autox.team.net</a>&gt; =
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><div><div><div><div><div><div=
><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif'>With what I =
paid, $100 was a rounding error (and he ended up =
doing<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif'>a lot of =
work for free, because it was a fixed-price job and he's =
a<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif'>perfectionist=
).&nbsp; But it's not the first time I'd heard of this =
problem<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif'>with new =
radiators.&nbsp; A lot of people complain about cooling issues =
<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif'>with their =
MGAs.&nbsp; I've never had a problem, even with weather in =
<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif'>the =
80s.&nbsp; And if it's hotter than that, I overheat long before =
the<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif'>car =
would.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif'><o:p>&nbsp;</=
o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif'><o:p>&nbsp;</=
o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif'>David =
Breneman <a =
href=3D"mailto:david_breneman@yahoo.com";>david_breneman@yahoo.com</a><o:p=
></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif'><o:p>&nbsp;</=
o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif'><o:p>&nbsp;</=
o:p></span></p></div></div><div =
id=3D"ydpd7504672yahoo_quoted_6851532480"><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282=
A'>On Thursday, May 2, 2019, 12:41:14 AM PDT, PaulHunt73 &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:paulhunt73@virginmedia.com";>paulhunt73@virginmedia.com</a>=
&gt; wrote: <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282=
A'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282=
A'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282=
A'>Hmmm.&nbsp; With my cynical hat on I'd say that could be a way of =
spending $400 <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282=
A'>rather than $300.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282=
A'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282=
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A'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282=
A'>----- Original Message ----- <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282=
A'>&gt; When I got my MGA restored, the mechanic recommended rebuilding =
the<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282=
A'>&gt; original radiator rather then buying a replacement, because the =
new ones<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282=
A'>&gt; have fewer &quot;tubes&quot; (whatever the actual term is in =
radiator-speak) in them<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282=
A'>&gt; than the originals, so there is less surface area for cooling. =
<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282=
A'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div></div></div></div></div><p =
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