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I think Lbcarco is a Moss reseller, so most of their stuff is a Moss
product. They sell =E2=80=98em cheaper.
I wonder if Jeff Zorn is still involved with them. Seems to me he retired
and he and Jan spend a lot of time cruising these days....
Dan D
Central NJ USA
On Thu, May 2, 2019 at 3:24 PM dave via Mgs <mgs@autox.team.net> wrote:
> I was quoted upwards of $400 to recore. Lbcarco has new ones for under
> $300, and there is a guy on ebay out of Knoxville selling them for just
> over $200. Steel/copper of course.
>
>
>
> Since my other LBC=E2=80=99s also have steel/copper radiators, and electr=
ic fans,
> and I do just fine here in Dallas summers, I=E2=80=99m thinking that=E2=
=80=99s the way to
> go. I=E2=80=99ll take lbcarco products any day. Their stuff is great. =
I=E2=80=99m going
> to hook up the electric fan to the F switch (and a relay). Seems
> appropriate to me!
>
>
>
> *From:* Mgs <mgs-bounces@autox.team.net> *On Behalf Of *Barrie Robinson
> via Mgs
> *Sent:* Thursday, May 2, 2019 1:11 PM
> *To:* mgs@autox.team.net
> *Subject:* Re: [Mgs] mga radiator
>
>
>
> Hello Max,
>
> I hoped you used the special heat transferring paint. There used to be
> one that has something like small chaff in it which was meant to improve
> heat transfer.
>
> Barrie from Barrie
>
> On 5/2/2019 2:01 PM, Max Heim via Mgs wrote:
>
> I was recently quoted $450 to recore a Mk.1 MGB radiator. So it has becom=
e
> rather costly. But if you are a stickler for the original appearance, and
> want to insure a perfect fit, I think that is how you would want to go.
>
>
>
> That said, I wound up with the Moss Motors premium aluminum radiator, and
> it fit fine, and seems to work great. I painted it black so it didn=E2=80=
=99t stand
> out as a foreign object, and can=E2=80=99t be seen through the grill (thi=
s really
> bugs me when I see it on other cars).
>
>
>
> --
>
> Max Heim
>
> '66 MGB
>
>
>
> On May 2, 2019, at 6:53 AM, David Breneman via Mgs <mgs@autox.team.net>
> wrote:
>
>
>
> With what I paid, $100 was a rounding error (and he ended up doing
>
> a lot of work for free, because it was a fixed-price job and he's a
>
> perfectionist). But it's not the first time I'd heard of this problem
>
> with new radiators. A lot of people complain about cooling issues
>
> with their MGAs. I've never had a problem, even with weather in
>
> the 80s. And if it's hotter than that, I overheat long before the
>
> car would.
>
>
>
>
>
> David Breneman david_breneman@yahoo.com
>
>
>
>
>
> On Thursday, May 2, 2019, 12:41:14 AM PDT, PaulHunt73 <
> paulhunt73@virginmedia.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> Hmmm. With my cynical hat on I'd say that could be a way of spending $40=
0
>
> rather than $300.
>
>
>
> PaulH.
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
>
> > When I got my MGA restored, the mechanic recommended rebuilding the
>
> > original radiator rather then buying a replacement, because the new one=
s
>
> > have fewer "tubes" (whatever the actual term is in radiator-speak) in
> them
>
> > than the originals, so there is less surface area for cooling.
>
>
>
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<div><div dir=3D"auto">I think Lbcarco is a Moss reseller, so most of their=
stuff is a Moss product. They sell =E2=80=98em cheaper.</div></div><div di=
r=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">I wonder if Jeff Zorn is still invol=
ved with them. Seems to me he retired and he and Jan spend a lot of time cr=
uising these days....</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">Da=
n D</div><div dir=3D"auto">Central NJ USA</div><div><br><div class=3D"gmail=
_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Thu, May 2, 2019 at 3:24 P=
M dave via Mgs <<a href=3D"mailto:mgs@autox.team.net";>mgs@autox.team.net=
</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:=
0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div bgcolor=3D"whi=
te" lang=3D"EN-US" link=3D"blue" vlink=3D"purple"><div class=3D"m_730480269=
9162403382WordSection1"><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:windowt=
ext">I was quoted upwards of $400 to recore.=C2=A0 Lbcarco has new ones for=
under $300, and there is a guy on ebay out of Knoxville selling them for j=
ust over $200.=C2=A0 Steel/copper of course.=C2=A0 <u></u><u></u></span></p=
><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:windowtext"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></=
u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:windowtext">Since =
my other LBC=E2=80=99s also have steel/copper radiators, and electric fans,=
and I do just fine here in Dallas summers, I=E2=80=99m thinking that=E2=80=
=99s the way to go.=C2=A0 I=E2=80=99ll take lbcarco products any day.=C2=A0=
Their stuff is great.=C2=A0 I=E2=80=99m going to hook up the electric fan =
to the F switch (and a relay).=C2=A0 Seems appropriate to me!<u></u><u></u>=
</span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:windowtext"><u></u>=
=C2=A0<u></u></span></p><div><div style=3D"border:none;border-top:solid #e1=
e1e1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in"><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span style=
=3D"color:windowtext">From:</span></b><span style=3D"color:windowtext"> Mgs=
<<a href=3D"mailto:mgs-bounces@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank">mgs-bo=
unces@autox.team.net</a>> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Barrie Robinson via Mgs<br=
><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, May 2, 2019 1:11 PM<br><b>To:</b> <a href=3D"mailto=
:mgs@autox.team.net" target=3D"_blank">mgs@autox.team.net</a><br><b>Subject=
:</b> Re: [Mgs] mga radiator<u></u><u></u></span></p></div></div><p class=
=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"marg=
in-bottom:12.0pt"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial&q=
uot;,sans-serif">Hello Max,<br><br>I hoped you used the special heat transf=
erring paint.=C2=A0=C2=A0 There used to be one that has something like smal=
l chaff in it which was meant to improve heat transfer.<br><br>Barrie from =
Barrie</span><u></u><u></u></p><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">On 5/2/2019 2:01=
PM, Max Heim via Mgs wrote:<u></u><u></u></p></div><blockquote style=3D"ma=
rgin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><p class=3D"MsoNormal">I was recently q=
uoted $450 to recore a Mk.1 MGB radiator. So it has become rather costly. B=
ut if you are a stickler for the original appearance, and want to insure a =
perfect fit, I think that is how you would want to go. <u></u><u></u></p><d=
iv><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p></div><div><p class=3D"Ms=
oNormal">That said, I wound up with the Moss Motors premium aluminum radiat=
or, and it fit fine, and seems to work great. I painted it black so it didn=
=E2=80=99t stand out as a foreign object, and can=E2=80=99t be seen through=
the grill (this really bugs me when I see it on other cars).<u></u><u></u>=
</p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p></div><div><d=
iv><div><div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt">-=
-<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"=
font-size:10.0pt">Max Heim<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"M=
soNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt">'66 MGB<u></u><u></u></span>=
</p></div></div></div></div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>=
<div><blockquote style=3D"margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><div><p cla=
ss=3D"MsoNormal">On May 2, 2019, at 6:53 AM, David Breneman via Mgs <<a =
href=3D"mailto:mgs@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank">mgs@autox.team.net</a>=
> wrote:<u></u><u></u></p></div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u><=
/u></p><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span styl=
e=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif">With what=
I paid, $100 was a rounding error (and he ended up doing<u></u><u></u></sp=
an></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;fo=
nt-family:"Verdana",sans-serif">a lot of work for free, because i=
t was a fixed-price job and he's a<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><=
p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Ver=
dana",sans-serif">perfectionist).=C2=A0 But it's not the first tim=
e I'd heard of this problem<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class=
=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana&qu=
ot;,sans-serif">with new radiators.=C2=A0 A lot of people complain about co=
oling issues <u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><sp=
an style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif">wi=
th their MGAs.=C2=A0 I've never had a problem, even with weather in <u>=
</u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font=
-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif">the 80s.=C2=A0 And=
if it's hotter than that, I overheat long before the<u></u><u></u></sp=
an></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;fo=
nt-family:"Verdana",sans-serif">car would.<u></u><u></u></span></=
p></div></div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-f=
amily:"Verdana",sans-serif"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p></div>=
<div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&qu=
ot;Verdana",sans-serif"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p></div><div><p c=
lass=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdan=
a",sans-serif">David Breneman <a href=3D"mailto:david_breneman@yahoo.c=
om" target=3D"_blank">david_breneman@yahoo.com</a><u></u><u></u></span></p>=
</div></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;fon=
t-family:"Verdana",sans-serif"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p></d=
iv><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:=
"Verdana",sans-serif"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p></div></div>=
<div id=3D"m_7304802699162403382ydpd7504672yahoo_quoted_6851532480"><div><d=
iv><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"=
;Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282a">On Thursday, May 2, 2019, 12:41:=
14 AM PDT, PaulHunt73 <<a href=3D"mailto:paulhunt73@virginmedia.com"; tar=
get=3D"_blank">paulhunt73@virginmedia.com</a>> wrote: <u></u><u></u></sp=
an></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;fo=
nt-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282a"><u></u>=C2=A0<u><=
/u></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10=
.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282a"><u></u>=C2=
=A0<u></u></span></p></div><div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"=
font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282a=
">Hmmm.=C2=A0 With my cynical hat on I'd say that could be a way of spe=
nding $400 <u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span=
style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;col=
or:#26282a">rather than $300.<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class=
=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica&=
quot;,sans-serif;color:#26282a"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p></div><div><=
p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Hel=
vetica",sans-serif;color:#26282a">PaulH.<u></u><u></u></span></p></div=
><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&q=
uot;Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282a"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></=
p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-fa=
mily:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282a">----- Original Message=
----- <u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span sty=
le=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#=
26282a">> When I got my MGA restored, the mechanic recommended rebuildin=
g the<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=
=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26=
282a">> original radiator rather then buying a replacement, because the =
new ones<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span st=
yle=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:=
#26282a">> have fewer "tubes" (whatever the actual term is in =
radiator-speak) in them<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoN=
ormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sa=
ns-serif;color:#26282a">> than the originals, so there is less surface a=
rea for cooling. <u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"=
><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-ser=
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