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To: Richard Lindsay <richardolindsay@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Mgs] Silly error.
From: Robert's New iPad via Mgs <mgs@autox.team.net>
Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2019 14:51:13 -0400
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  Good on both of you.
  Yesterday was an interesting day for me. Went out as passenger with a frie=
nd in his TF, stored a year or so.  It ran out of go at 2500 rpm, sputtering=
, bucking, etc, but would smooth out at 2000. =20
  Back at the garage, found the strangest stuff in the float chambers. One h=
ad a teaspoon of large chunks of solid material. The other had some of that,=
 plus a goo that looked like frog-egg liquid. =20
  The goo was easy enough to figure out, but as the chunks are far larger th=
an would pass through the SU carb banjo filters, the SU pump filter, the add=
itional filter he has in line, and the original screen filter in the tank, i=
t was a puzzle.  We could check banjo, pump and additional filter-none had a=
ny grit or sediment.=20
  Pump delivers the pint/minute quantity that workshop manual says.
  Engine runs better, but not much. I suspect that some of the sediment is i=
n the passage from float chamber to the jet, but we ran out of day yesterday=
.
Bob


> On Jun 13, 2019, at 1:49 PM, Richard Lindsay via Mgs <mgs@autox.team.net> w=
rote:
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>    Good work Hans! I too had a successful day at the shop. I replaced in t=
wo bolts in the waterpump housing and the leak is gone! We brought the engin=
e up to temperature with (up to) 13# coolant pressure, and no leaks.
>    I also found a small fuel leak at the intake of the fuel pump. A couple=
 of spannet twists put that right and dry. With that, we made a few laps aro=
und the shop and all was still well.
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> Rick
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>> On Thu, Jun 13, 2019, 9:58 AM Hans Duinhoven <h.duinhoven@planet.nl> wrot=
e:
>> Funny =E2=80=93 I solved coolant issues earlier and yesterday.
>>=20
>> Had to replace the thermostat housing gasket and yesterday I had to repla=
ce the hose connecting the bottom radiator pipe to the waterpump.
>>=20
>> A horrible job to do, as there is almost no space to work at the bottom o=
f the radiator pipe.
>>=20
>> Nut with a dry result!
>>=20
>> =20
>>=20
>> Fully cleaned a clogged charcoal filter and renewed the charcoal particle=
s.
>>=20
>> Replaced the oil filler cap and will renew the brake fluid tomorrow.
>>=20
>> Then the GT should be roadworthy again.
>>=20
>> =20
>>=20
>> Cheers,
>>=20
>> Hans
>>=20
>> 71 BGT NRG -
>>=20
>> =20
>>=20
>> =20
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>> =20
>>=20
>> Van: Mgs [mailto:mgs-bounces@autox.team.net] Namens Richard Lindsay via M=
gs
>> Verzonden: woensdag 12 juni 2019 18:51
>> Aan: mgs@autox.team.net List
>> Onderwerp: [Mgs] Silly error.
>>=20
>> =20
>>=20
>> Hi Friends,
>>=20
>>    My TR6 rebuilt engine leaks coolant. Okay, its not an MG but the issue=
 is universal. Here's the short story.
>>=20
>>    When reassembling the waterpump I made a newbie error. I got in a hurr=
y and left out two bolts, some of the bolts that hold the pump body to the h=
ead. The coolant leak is through one of those bolt holes. The threaded hole d=
rilling entered the head's water jacket and of course, leaks.
>>=20
>>    I now have new bolts and I will apply sealant to the threads and place=
 fiber sealing washers under the bolt heads. Doing so hopefully completes th=
e engine rebuild. I can then get back to replacing the top on my MG TD.
>>=20
>> =20
>>=20
>> Rick
>>=20
>>=20
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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3D=
utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto"><div dir=3D"ltr"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&nb=
sp; Good on both of you.</div><div dir=3D"ltr">&nbsp; Yesterday was an inter=
esting day for me. Went out as passenger with a friend in his TF, stored a y=
ear or so. &nbsp;It ran out of go at 2500 rpm, sputtering, bucking, etc, but=
 would smooth out at 2000. &nbsp;</div><div dir=3D"ltr">&nbsp; Back at the g=
arage, found the strangest stuff in the float chambers. One had a teaspoon o=
f large chunks of solid material. The other had some of that, plus a goo tha=
t looked like frog-egg liquid. &nbsp;</div><div dir=3D"ltr">&nbsp; The goo w=
as easy enough to figure out, but as the chunks are far larger than would pa=
ss through the SU carb banjo filters, the SU pump filter, the additional fil=
ter he has in line, and the original screen filter in the tank, it was a puz=
zle. &nbsp;We could check banjo, pump and additional filter-none had any gri=
t or sediment.&nbsp;</div><div dir=3D"ltr">&nbsp; Pump delivers the pint/min=
ute quantity that workshop manual says.</div><div dir=3D"ltr">&nbsp; Engine r=
uns better, but not much. I suspect that some of the sediment is in the pass=
age from float chamber to the jet, but we ran out of day yesterday.</div><di=
v dir=3D"ltr">Bob</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br>On Ju=
n 13, 2019, at 1:49 PM, Richard Lindsay via Mgs &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:mgs@au=
tox.team.net">mgs@autox.team.net</a>&gt; wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote typ=
e=3D"cite"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"auto"><div>&nbsp; &nbsp;Good work Ha=
ns! I too had a successful day at the shop. I replaced in two bolts in the w=
aterpump housing and the leak is gone! We brought the engine up to temperatu=
re with (up to) 13# coolant pressure, and no leaks.</div><div dir=3D"auto">&=
nbsp; &nbsp;I also found a small fuel leak at the intake of the fuel pump. A=
 couple of spannet twists put that right and dry. With that, we made a few l=
aps around the shop and all was still well.</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div=
><div dir=3D"auto">Rick</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote=
" dir=3D"auto"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Thu, Jun 13, 2019, 9=
:58 AM Hans Duinhoven &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:h.duinhoven@planet.nl";>h.duinhov=
en@planet.nl</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=
=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div lang=
=3D"NL" link=3D"blue" vlink=3D"purple"><div class=3D"m_-2666518911097195659W=
ordSection1"><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:=
11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1f497d"=
>Funny =E2=80=93 I solved coolant issues earlier and yesterday.<u></u><u></u=
></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:1=
1.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1f497d">=
Had to replace the thermostat housing gasket and yesterday I had to replace t=
he hose connecting the bottom radiator pipe to the waterpump.<u></u><u></u><=
/span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:11.=
0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1f497d">A h=
orrible job to do, as there is almost no space to work at the bottom of the r=
adiator pipe.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"E=
N-US" style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-s=
erif&quot;;color:#1f497d">Nut with a dry result!<u></u><u></u></span></p><p c=
lass=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-famil=
y:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1f497d"><u></u>&nbsp;<u>=
</u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-siz=
e:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1f497=
d">Fully cleaned a clogged charcoal filter and renewed the charcoal particle=
s.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=
=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;=
color:#1f497d">Replaced the oil filler cap and will renew the brake fluid to=
morrow.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" s=
tyle=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&qu=
ot;;color:#1f497d">Then the GT should be roadworthy again.<u></u><u></u></sp=
an></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:11.0pt=
;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1f497d"><u></=
u>&nbsp;<u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D=
"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;col=
or:#1f497d">Cheers,<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lan=
g=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;=
sans-serif&quot;;color:#1f497d">Hans<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"Mso=
Normal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Cal=
ibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1f497d">71 BGT NRG - <u></u><u></u>=
</span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:11=
.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1f497d"><=
u></u>&nbsp;<u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" st=
yle=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quo=
t;;color:#1f497d"><u></u>&nbsp;<u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><spa=
n lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&=
quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1f497d"><u></u>&nbsp;<u></u></span></p><p class=
=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&q=
uot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">Van:</span></b><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;=
font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"> Mgs [mailto:<a href=3D=
"mailto:mgs-bounces@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">mgs=
-bounces@autox.team.net</a>] <b>Namens </b>Richard Lindsay via Mgs<br><b>Ver=
zonden:</b> woensdag 12 juni 2019 18:51<br><b>Aan:</b> <a href=3D"mailto:mgs=
@autox.team.net" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">mgs@autox.team.net</a>=
 List<br><b>Onderwerp:</b> [Mgs] Silly error.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p cla=
ss=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>&nbsp;<u></u></p><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Hi Frie=
nds,<u></u><u></u></p><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">&nbsp; &nbsp;My TR6 rebuil=
t engine leaks coolant. Okay, its not an MG but the issue is universal. Here=
's the short story.<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">&nbsp=
; &nbsp;When reassembling the waterpump I made a newbie error. I got in a hu=
rry and left out two bolts, some of the bolts that hold the pump body to the=
 head. The coolant leak is through one of those bolt holes. The threaded hol=
e drilling entered the head's water jacket and of course, leaks.<u></u><u></=
u></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">&nbsp; &nbsp;I now have new bolts an=
d I will apply sealant to the threads and place fiber sealing washers under t=
he bolt heads. Doing so hopefully completes the engine rebuild. I can then g=
et back to replacing the top on my MG TD.<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p cla=
ss=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>&nbsp;<u></u></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">R=
ick<u></u><u></u></p></div></div></div><div id=3D"m_-2666518911097195659DAB4=
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