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Hello folks,
If the battery is new and all connections have been cleaned then I am
guessing the starter motor is the problem.  I had same problem, so
whipped out the starter and took to shop that did nothing else but
alternators, starters and such.  He dissembled it before my eyes and he
showed me sick insides.  I left it with him and next day picked up
refurbished starter, paid around $150 for parts and labour (in nice
looking Canadian dollars), took it home and installed. Been super ever
since. But hasten to add that the starter was/is one of those high
torque non-Lucas ones of which I had trouble find one that did not fail
after a few weeks !!!!!
The only other guess would be you need a tin of Lucas smoke
Cheers
Barrie
On 11/10/2020 5:40 AM, PaulHunt73 wrote:
> 
> Yes, measure the voltage right on the battery posts (adding the two
> voltages together if twin 6v batteries) when cranking, then compare
> that with the voltage at the battery cable stud on the solenoid and
> starter body when cranking. The difference between the two is what is
> being lost in the connections, a volt or so is normal but it shouldn't
> be much more than that.
> If you get much less than 10v at the battery posts then that is the
> problem.
> PaulH.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
>
> Next job is the slow starter motor.
>
> I already cleaned the battery posts clamps and the post of the
> battery to chassis cable.
>
> Also cleaned thoroughly the chassis to engine cable.
>
> Nothing helped so far.
>
> So next will be verifying the battery voltage when cranking. I
> assume it will be o.k. as the battery is new.
>
> Following step will be measuring the voltage over the starter
> motor +12V to the engine.
>
> When o.k., the starter is suspect. As it never was overhauled,
> this is logical.
>
> Nice winter job.
>
> *Van:* Mgs <mgs-bounces@autox.team.net> *Namens *Dan DiBiase
> *Verzonden:* donderdag 22 oktober 2020 22:26
> *Aan:* Richard Lindsay <richardolindsay@gmail.com>
> *CC:* mglist <mgs@autox.team.net>; MGB-Yahoo <mg-mgb@yahoogroups.com>
> *Onderwerp:* Re: [Mgs] Siphoning Gas
>
> OMG, duh! Thanks to all that replied with this excellent (and
> obvious, now!) advice..............................
>
> Dan D
>
> http://dandibiase.cbintouch.com/ <http://dandibiase.cbintouch.com/>
>
> On Thu, Oct 22, 2020 at 4:13 PM Richard Lindsay
>
> I had the same problem. I disconnected the fuel hose, added a
> a long bit of hose and with the coil disconnected, used the
> fuel pump to pump old fuel into jugs.
>
> On Thu, Oct 22, 2020, 3:02 PM Dan DiBiase
>
> Hi all.... My '76B, which was off the road for 5 years,
> was recently returned to me from the shop. They added some
> new gas but did not siphon out the 5 year old gas (which
> was just under 1/2 tank when I had it towed in. The car is
> running pretty rough so I want to siphon out most of the
> gas before I fill it up. It is currently showing as just
> under 1/2 tank, so around 6 gallons or a little less
> (assuming gauge accuracy).
>
> I was able to pump out about 2 gallons but am wondering if
> the interior of the tank is baffled, as I can't seem to
> move the hose beyond a certain area and it's not sucking
> up any additional gas. Would really like to remove a
> couple more gallons before I fill it up.
>
> Thx,
>
> Dan D
>
> '76B-Â Getting There
>
> '65B - Waiting It's Turn
>
> Central NJ USA
>
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<font size="-1"><font face="Arial">Hello folks,<br>
<br>
If the battery is new and all connections have been cleaned then
I am guessing the starter motor is the problem.  I had same
problem, so whipped out the starter and took to shop that did
nothing else but alternators, starters and such.  He dissembled
it before my eyes and he showed me sick insides.  I left it
with him and next day picked up refurbished starter, paid around
$150 for parts and labour (in nice looking Canadian dollars),
took it home and installed. Been super ever since. But hasten
to add that the starter was/is one of those high torque
non-Lucas ones of which I had trouble find one that did not fail
after a few weeks !!!!!<br>
<br>
The only other guess would be you need a tin of Lucas smoke<br>
Cheers<br>
Barrie<br>
</font></font><br>
<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 11/10/2020 5:40 AM, PaulHunt73
wrote:<br>
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<div><font size="2">Yes, measure the voltage right on the
battery posts (adding the two voltages together if twin 6v
batteries) when cranking, then compare that with the voltage
at the battery cable stud on the solenoid and starter body
when cranking. The difference between the two is what is
being lost in the connections, a volt or so is normal but it
shouldn't be much more than that.</font></div>
<div>Â </div>
<div><font size="2">If you get much less than 10v at the battery
posts then that is the problem.</font></div>
<div>Â </div>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language: EN-US"
lang="EN-GB">Next job is the slow starter motor.
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language: EN-US"
lang="EN-GB">I already cleaned the battery posts clamps
and the post of the battery to chassis
cable.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language: EN-US"
lang="EN-GB">Also cleaned thoroughly the chassis to engine
cable. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language: EN-US"
lang="EN-GB">Nothing helped so far.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language: EN-US"
lang="EN-GB">So next will be verifying the battery voltage
when cranking. I assume it will be o.k. as the battery is
new.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language: EN-US"
lang="EN-GB">Following step will be measuring the voltage
over the starter motor +12V to the engine.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language: EN-US"
lang="EN-GB">When o.k., the starter is suspect. As it
never was overhauled, this is logical.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language: EN-US"
lang="EN-GB">Nice winter job.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language: EN-US"
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>Van:</b> Mgs
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
href="mailto:mgs-bounces@autox.team.net";><mgs-bounces@autox.team.net></a>
<b>Namens </b>Dan
DiBiase<br>
<b>Verzonden:</b> donderdag 22 oktober 2020 22:26<br>
<b>Aan:</b> Richard Lindsay
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
href="mailto:richardolindsay@gmail.com";><richardolindsay@gmail.com></a><br>
<b>CC:</b> mglist <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
href="mailto:mgs@autox.team.net";><mgs@autox.team.net></a>; MGB-Yahoo
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
href="mailto:mg-mgb@yahoogroups.com";><mg-mgb@yahoogroups.com></a><br>
<b>Onderwerp:</b> Re: [Mgs] Siphoning Gas<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p>Â </o:p></p>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">OMG, duh! Thanks to all that replied
with this excellent (and obvious, now!)
advice..............................<o:p></o:p></p>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p>Â </o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">Dan D<br clear="all">
<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p>Â </o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Thu, Oct 22, 2020 at 4:13 PM
Richard Lindsay <<a
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moz-do-not-send="true">richardolindsay@gmail.com</a>>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I had the same problem. I
disconnected the fuel hose, added a a long bit of hose
and with the coil disconnected, used the fuel pump to
pump old fuel into jugs.<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p>Â </o:p></p>
<div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">On Thu, Oct 22, 2020, 3:02 PM Dan
DiBiase <<a href="mailto:dan.dibiase@gmail.com";
target="_blank"
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<p class="MsoNormal">Hi all.... My '76B, which was
off the road for 5 years, was recently returned to
me from the shop. They added some new gas but did
not siphon out the 5 year old gas (which was just
under 1/2 tank when I had it towed in. The car is
running pretty rough so I want to siphon out most
of the gas before I fill it up. It is currently
showing as just under 1/2 tank, so around 6
gallons or a little less (assuming gauge
accuracy). <o:p></o:p></p>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p>Â </o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">I was able to pump out about
2 gallons but am wondering if the interior of
the tank is baffled, as I can't seem to move the
hose beyond a certain area and it's not sucking
up any additional gas. Would really like to
remove a couple more gallons before I fill it
up.<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p>Â </o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">Thx, <o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p>Â </o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">Dan D<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">'76B-Â Getting There<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">'65B - Waiting It's
Turn<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">Central NJ USA<br clear="all">
<o:p></o:p></p>
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