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The early seventies Citro=C3=ABn 2CV had a very loud almost deafening click=
sound. Nobody forgot to cancel the stalk.
Cheers, Hans
=E2=80=9971 BGT
Van: Mgs <mgs-bounces@autox.team.net> Namens Michael MacLean
Verzonden: zondag 3 januari 2021 23:59
Aan: Robert's New iPad <mgbobh@gmail.com>
CC: Mglist <mgs@autox.team.net>
Onderwerp: Re: [Mgs] Turn Signal Stalk
The "beeper" is a great idea.
Mike M
On Sunday, January 3, 2021, 2:41:47 PM PST, Robert's New iPad <mgbobh@gmail=
Hi Mike,
It is supposed to be self-cancelling, though that does require about 1/4=
turn of the steering wheel to engage the cancelling mechanism.
If you remove the steering column cover, a bit of a trick in itself, you=
will see from the left the steering column. On it should be a black sprin=
g clip that has a squared bump shape. That bump should be on same plane as=
the =E2=80=9CC=E2=80=9D shaped plastic claws on the turn signal control. =
With wheels straight ahead and the steering wheel centred, that bump should=
be mid-way between the two claws.
The way it is supposed to work is that when the turn lever is set for tu=
rns, the spring clip, as it swings around on the column, contacts one of th=
e C claws, dislodging it from where it is parked, and the system cancels.
On most roads in CT, the radius of turns at intersections is great enoug=
h that the self-cancel does not engage. I put an inexpensive beeper into t=
he circuit at the flasher unit, as the little indicator lights are dim.
Some have fitted brighter LEDs in place of the signal indicators. Having =
bloodied myself sufficiently when installing LEDs into the instruments, I w=
ill leave the signal indicators to some distant time in the future when I m=
ight have the dashboard out.
It=E2=80=99s my opinion that the easiest way to address your question is =
to ensure that the cancelling device is set properly and to install a sound=
-making device/beeper, then to appreciate that our roads are wider and inte=
rsections built with greater radius than those in the UK when these cancell=
ing devices were thought to be an improvement over the pneumatic, time-sens=
itive devices used in TDs, TFs and MGAs.
Bob
On Jan 3, 2021, at 3:24 PM, Michael MacLean <rrengineer.mike@att.net <mailt=
o:rrengineer.mike@att.net> > wrote:
Just wondering. Is the turn signal stalk on my 69 MGB GT supposed to be se=
lf canceling? As it is right now, I have to remember to put it back in the =
middle position after making a turn. This is something I am used to becaus=
e my Bugeye has a three position switch on the dash that you have to click =
back to the center position after making a turn. On the Bugeye though, it'=
s a little bit easier because there is a huge bright green light right in f=
ront of your face on the dash. In fact, you can't ignore it at night it is=
so bright blinking at you. Not so with the MG. The lights are two little=
dim illuminated arrows. While they are somewhat noticeable at night, you =
just don't notice these lights in the daytime. Sorry, just sitting around =
on a Sunday morning and needed something to complain about.
Mike MacLean
1969 MGB GT
1960 Bugeye
1956 Austin Healey BN2
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=3Dpurple style=3D'word-wrap:break-word'><div class=3DWordSection1><p class=
=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-GB style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>The ea=
rly seventies Citro=C3=ABn 2CV had a very loud almost deafening click sound=
=2E Nobody forgot to cancel the stalk.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoN=
ormal><span lang=3DEN-GB style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </=
o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-GB style=3D'mso-fareast=
-language:EN-US'>Cheers, Hans<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><sp=
an lang=3DEN-GB style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>=E2=80=9971 BGT<o:p></=
o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-GB style=3D'mso-fareast=
-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style=3D'border:none=
;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=3DMsoNo=
rmal><b>Van:</b> Mgs <mgs-bounces@autox.team.net> <b>Namens </b>Micha=
el MacLean<br><b>Verzonden:</b> zondag 3 januari 2021 23:59<br><b>Aan:</b> =
Robert's New iPad <mgbobh@gmail.com><br><b>CC:</b> Mglist <mgs@aut=
ox.team.net><br><b>Onderwerp:</b> Re: [Mgs] Turn Signal Stalk<o:p></o:p>=
</p></div></div><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p clas=
s=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman"=
,serif'>The "beeper" is a great idea.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div>=
<div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Time=
s New Roman",serif'>Mike M<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNo=
rmal><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif'><=
o:p> </o:p></span></p></div></div><div id=3D"yahoo_quoted_0391157218">=
<div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:=
"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'>On Sunday, January 3, 2021, 2:41:47 P=
M PST, Robert's New iPad <<a href=3D"mailto:mgbobh@gmail.com";>mgbobh@gma=
il.com</a>> wrote: <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal=
><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#=
26282A'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span s=
tyle=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'>=
<o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><div id=3Dyiv3136677636><div><div><p=
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",=
sans-serif;color:#26282A'>Hi Mike,<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=
=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-s=
erif;color:#26282A'> It is supposed to be self-cancelling, thou=
gh that does require about 1/4 turn of the steering wheel to engage the can=
celling mechanism.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><sp=
an style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#2628=
2A'> If you remove the steering column cover, a bit of a trick =
in itself, you will see from the left the steering column. On it shou=
ld be a black spring clip that has a squared bump shape. That bump sh=
ould be on same plane as the =E2=80=9CC=E2=80=9D shaped plastic claws on th=
e turn signal control. With wheels straight ahead and the steering wh=
eel centred, that bump should be mid-way between the two claws.<o:p></o:p><=
/span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;f=
ont-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'> The way it is=
supposed to work is that when the turn lever is set for turns, the spring =
clip, as it swings around on the column, contacts one of the C claws, dislo=
dging it from where it is parked, and the system cancels.<o:p></o:p></span>=
</p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-fa=
mily:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'> On most roads in CT=
, the radius of turns at intersections is great enough that the self-cancel=
does not engage. I put an inexpensive beeper into the circuit at the=
flasher unit, as the little indicator lights are dim.<o:p></o:p></span></p=
></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-famil=
y:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'> Some have fitted brighter LE=
Ds in place of the signal indicators. Having bloodied myself sufficiently w=
hen installing LEDs into the instruments, I will leave the signal indicator=
s to some distant time in the future when I might have the dashboard out. &=
nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'f=
ont-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'> It=
=E2=80=99s my opinion that the easiest way to address your question is to e=
nsure that the cancelling device is set properly and to install a sound-mak=
ing device/beeper, then to appreciate that our roads are wider and intersec=
tions built with greater radius than those in the UK when these cancelling =
devices were thought to be an improvement over the pneumatic, time-sensitiv=
e devices used in TDs, TFs and MGAs.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p cla=
ss=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans=
-serif;color:#26282A'>Bob<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNor=
mal><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;colo=
r:#26282A'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div id=3Dyiv3136677636yqt8785=
3><div><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style=3D'f=
ont-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'><br>On Ja=
n 3, 2021, at 3:24 PM, Michael MacLean <<a href=3D"mailto:rrengineer.mik=
e@att.net" target=3D"_blank">rrengineer.mike@att.net</a>> wrote:<o:p></o=
:p></span></p></div><blockquote style=3D'margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0=
pt'><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"=
Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'>Just wondering. Is the turn sign=
al stalk on my 69 MGB GT supposed to be self canceling? As it is right now,=
I have to remember to put it back in the middle position after making a tu=
rn. This is something I am used to because my Bugeye has a three posi=
tion switch on the dash that you have to click back to the center position =
after making a turn. On the Bugeye though, it's a little bit easier b=
ecause there is a huge bright green light right in front of your face on th=
e dash. In fact, you can't ignore it at night it is so bright blinkin=
g at you. Not so with the MG. The lights are two little dim ill=
uminated arrows. While they are somewhat noticeable at night, you jus=
t don't notice these lights in the daytime. Sorry, just sitting aroun=
d on a Sunday morning and needed something to complain about.<o:p></o:p></s=
pan></p><div id=3D"yiv3136677636yMail_cursorElementTracker_1609705432469"><=
p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica"=
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rmal><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;col=
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=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'>1960=
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