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Re: [Nobbc] Triumphs Only

To: "North Bay British Car Club" <nobbc@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Triumphs Only
From: "Clif & Deborah Williamson" <hawkview@sonic.net>
Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2010 16:00:02 -0700
I understand.  Thanks.
Back to the TR problem.  As I recall this is an engine with only 700 miles. 
If this problem did not exist before the engine rebuild then in stands to 
reason there is another issue.
My Jensen Healey has about the same number of miles on the rebuild and is 
running a bit hotter than normal and before the rebuild.  But it is not over 
heating and when it gets to it's now normal temperature it stays there...no 
matter the weather.
Question for me is, does higher compression 8.9 to 10.5 have an effect on 
temperature?
I am going to get a bottle of this stuff and see what happens.
Royal Purple makes a product called Purple Ice Super Coolant that they claim 
is better.  Who knows?  But they also claim it can be used in straight water 
racing applications or in antifreeze / water mixtures.   A bit more 
expensive.
Clif  74 JH

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From: "marcus" <desmo93@att.net>
Sent: Saturday, July 24, 2010 12:42 AM
To: "North Bay British Car Club" <nobbc@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Triumphs Only

> Water Wetter increases the cooling efficiency of the system.  If the 
> thermostat is full open at 165 or 180, it will stay open as long as the 
> temp does not drop below that.  I suggested using Water Wetter as Dean was 
> having cooling issues.  The Water Wetter will help the system do a better 
> job of eliminating the excess heat, brining it down to a normal operating 
> temp.  At normal operating temp, the thermostat should be open fully.  If 
> the cooling system was maintain a normal operating temp, Water Wetter 
> would not be necessary and could reduce the system temp below normal 
> operating temp.  If you go to the Redline site or do a search on Water 
> Wetter, you can find detail beyond what I can provide on how it works.
>
> Marcus
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Clif & Deborah Williamson" <hawkview@sonic.net>
> To: "North Bay British Car Club" <nobbc@autox.team.net>
> Sent: Friday, July 23, 2010 11:12 PM
> Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Triumphs Only
>
>
>> Not sure I get it.
>> Based on what a thermostat is suppose to do, I would think water wetter 
>> would have no effect.  The thermostat doesn't care what's in the water, 
>> only the temp...correct?  Or are you talking relative to over heating?
>> Clif
>> 74 JH
>>
>> --------------------------------------------------
>> From: "Frank Morris" <morrisf@SIDWater.org>
>> Sent: Friday, July 23, 2010 8:00 PM
>> To: <nobbc@autox.team.net>
>> Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Triumphs Only
>>
>>> I see it is a Redline product which is local. Comes with generally high
>>> recommendations
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: nobbc-bounces@autox.team.net <nobbc-bounces@autox.team.net>
>>> To: North Bay British Car Club <nobbc@autox.team.net>
>>> Sent: Fri Jul 23 18:21:44 2010
>>> Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Triumphs Only
>>>
>>> Actually, it is. My local Kragen's here in the Hood has it...
>>>
>>> On Fri, Jul 23, 2010 at 4:16 PM, Frank Morris <morrisf@sidwater.org> 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Where did you find the Water Wetter?  Not exactly a Kragen shelf item.
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: nobbc-bounces@autox.team.net 
>>>> [mailto:nobbc-bounces@autox.team.net]
>>>> On Behalf Of Norman S. Weinfeld
>>>> Sent: Friday, July 23, 2010 3:04 PM
>>>> To: North Bay British Car Club
>>>> Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Triumphs Only
>>>>
>>>> I've used Water Wetter also with no perceivable improvement. I've
>>>> recently
>>>> been advised that this has to do with my also using anti-freeze and 
>>>> that
>>>> they tend to cancel one another out.
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Jul 23, 2010 at 1:58 PM, wendell bain <wbain@sonic.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> > I used to use Water Wetter when I was racing the Morgan in vintage
>>>> events.
>>>> > On a really hot day it made a difference of sometimes 15 degrees and
>>>> that
>>>> > really can help. Try it.
>>>> >
>>>> > Wendell
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > On Jul 23, 2010, at 8:33 AM, Paige, Dean wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> >  That's something I will try. Couldn't hurt!
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Deano
>>>> >>
>>>> >> -----Original Message-----
>>>> >> From: nobbc-bounces@autox.team.net
>>>> [mailto:nobbc-bounces@autox.team.net]
>>>> >> On
>>>> >> Behalf Of marcus
>>>> >> Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2010 2:21 PM
>>>> >> To: North Bay British Car Club
>>>> >> Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Triumphs Only
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Have your tried using Water Wetter?  Use it in my Ducati 996
>>>> (notoriously
>>>> >> poor
>>>> >> cooling unless you are moving about 40) and I have not had any 
>>>> >> issues
>>>> >> since,
>>>> >> even in stop and go traffic.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Marcus
>>>> >>
>>>> >> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> >> From: "Paige, Dean" <DPaige@srcity.org>
>>>> >> To: "'North Bay British Car Club'" <nobbc@autox.team.net>
>>>> >> Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2010 12:07 PM
>>>> >> Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Triumphs Only
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >>  Radiator is recorded with only about 3000 miles on it at present.
>>>> Clean
>>>> >>> as
>>>> >>> a
>>>> >>> whistle.  Water pump new with the rebuilt engine. In cool weather
>>>> temp
>>>> >>> re-cored stays pegged. Belts tight. This really is a air flow 
>>>> >>> issue.
>>>> >>> Really
>>>> >>> the whole drive train was completely redone within the last 6 years
>>>> or so
>>>> >>> and
>>>> >>> there is only maybe 700 miles on it.
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> Deano
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> >>> From: nobbc-bounces@autox.team.net
>>>> [mailto:nobbc-bounces@autox.team.net]
>>>> >>> On
>>>> >>> Behalf Of Mike Gianandrea
>>>> >>> Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2010 10:45 AM
>>>> >>> To: North Bay British Car Club
>>>> >>> Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Triumphs Only
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> Hey Dean,
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> I lost a water pump on one of the club rides out to the coast, 
>>>> >>> (good
>>>> >>> thing
>>>> >>> I
>>>> >>> carry water with me). I had no idea I had a problem until it just
>>>> let go.
>>>> >>> I
>>>> >>> put in a new pump, and even left the old thermostat in. Now I can't
>>>> get
>>>> >>> my
>>>> >>> TR
>>>> >>> to get hot. You might want check the pump, or do a radiator flush.
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> Michael
>>>> >>> 64 TR4
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